FSX Native Howard 500 from Milton

[Milton Shupe]

Well, I decided to do it myself! LOL There are so many special paint schemes out there for the original release, and then some later ones for the remapped tail version, it was a bit confusing.


So, I am working on converting the original mapping models for all the great paint schemes that have been done for that. Afterwards, I will bring in the remapped tail version with a few other enhancements.


The benefit, of course, is that we can control changes and updates, enjoy the Howard 500 in native FSX land with it added benefits, and be compatible with P3D thru v4 I hope.


Here are a few paint schemes shown in the converted early passenger model by Milton Shupe, Scott Thomas, Joáo Paz, Tony Radmilovich, Matthew Garraway, Heather, Cha Seung Ho, Damian Radice, Gregory W. Hux, and Siegfried Schaeffer.

[PeteHam]

:jump::jump::jump::jump:

Thank you Milton :applause: :applause:

Pete.

[MustangL2W]

Thank You Milton... The Howard 500 is such a brute. The hardest part of flying it is deciding which excellent paint scheme to use!

[Milton Shupe]

I had more pics to post but after trying 5 times, I gave up. LOL

[expat]

Milton, sometimes I think you are reading my mind, this is just the best news. Nothing could make me more happy! Love the selection of repaints - big favourites!

[Sundog]

Thanks Milton! :very_drunk:

I've never seen that spiffy white with the red trim before. Man, we're getting all kinds of great FS news today.

[TuFun]

This one is for the updated tail version of the Howard. Done from actual one photo on the net. Not complete though, only right side. :frown-new:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4902/45225566824_5a85dac384_z.jpg

[manfredc3]

yes, yes, yes. :jump:

[jamminjames]

I worked for Gregg Aviation at KGGG back in my college days. The owner of the FBO Barny Barnwell was the pilot for R. Lacy Oil who had a Howard N250JG. The sound of that beast taking off will stay with me forever. This plane really brings old times back and pulls at my heart. Gotta have this one!!!!

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks for the responses and comments. I am happy to know that you are interested as there is so much work involved in these models due to the high parts and animation counts. But, very happy to report that frame rates on my 10 year old machine are great with stuff cranked up.
Textures are set up for bump/spec treatment if anyone chooses to do that.

I have 26 liveries for this and will likely make them all available.

I will need one or more P3Dv4+ users to do some early testing so we can sort out what doesn't work, if anything.

Since the liveries were developed for FS9, some alpha channel adjustments may be necessary for P3D (depending on your options) whereas in FSXA, they look fine.

The package still looks great, still flies great, still sounds great. It should be a fun product to enjoy.

[Milton Shupe]

I worked for Gregg Aviation at KGGG back in my college days. The owner of the FBO Barny Barnwell was the pilot for R. Lacy Oil who had a Howard N250JG. The sound of that beast taking off will stay with me forever. This plane really brings old times back and pulls at my heart. Gotta have this one!!!!

Interesting story Sir. Back when we did the original project, Scott Thomas (who did the panel, gauges, and first sounds) and I were invited to visit the aircraft in MN and fly up to Oshkosh for the annual event, and back. I could not go but Scott went, flew in Howard 500 N500HP, got lots of pics, recorded some sounds, and actually flew in the left seat after leaving Oshkosh. He is a licensed pilot as well. That was a great experience and really helped bring the project to light. Additionally, Dave Cummings, pilot and in charge of maintenance for the aircraft supported our efforts with pictures, videos of gear and flaps in operation, sounds, POH, and flight model development. Dave is also a flight sim enthusiast.

Attached is the front page of the POH.

[Milton Shupe]

This one is for the updated tail version of the Howard. Done from actual one photo on the net. Not complete though, only right side. :frown-new:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4902/45225566824_5a85dac384_z.jpg

Beautiful progress on that one TF; I'll look forward to it. :jump:

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks Milton! :very_drunk:

I've never seen that spiffy white with the red trim before. Man, we're getting all kinds of great FS news today.

It really is. This is one of many of the late Damian Radice original paints I am featuring on this release. His File Id says this:

"Howard 500, registration N4362F. N4362F was flown by Jimmy Leeward, the pilot that flys the P51D "Cloud Dancer" at the Reno Air Races, from 1972-1974.Textures only for the Howard 500 by Milton Shupe, Scott Thomas, Joáo Paz. Repaint by Damian Radice."

Not long after the Howard 500 release, Damian joined the team as our texture artist.

[TuFun]

Beautiful progress on that one TF; I'll look forward to it. :jump:

There's only two repaints by me for the revised tail model. Not sure if it's worth porting over for just the two.

Anyways if your willing the cowl should be shorter, but the exhaust deflectors or what ever there called should be longer and the side one lower on the nacelles below the wing root.
Would like to be able to detail the are below the wings on the nacelles with the proper art work. Also the flaps. A wish lists but it's entirely up to you.

Example:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66591&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66592&stc=1

P.S. I went digging and found all my psd files from 6 years ago just in case. :encouragement:

EDIT: Defiantly want to take a crack at this one. Lots pin striping in this one.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ee3ee3af208515ed228341aa020af589

https://www.airteamimages.com/pics/119/119706_800.jpg

[Arkanoid]

Milton, you are fire. Your hard work is really apreciated by propellers lovers like me. In a couple of months you have updated XP-47, XP-72, D18S,Fleet Aircraft 50K, Avia 56 and the Lodestar (perhaps I have forgotten some one).

What are your plans for 2019? Congratulations Milton and team.

Arkanoid

[thunder100]

Dear Milton

WOW

I postpone my Avia 57 wish

And yes christmas is over, and easter far away-BUT

Some humble wish/suggestions to the new model(s)

bit higher VC resolution
an detachable steerinc column

with a gap lower priority

Those windows in 1 version

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66594&stc=1

Trigear

Thank you for at least reading

Roland

[thunder100]

By the way

Which is that texture?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66598&stc=1

Thanks

Roland

[Twice43]

Milton
Appreciate all the work you put into the Native conversions.
This looks a winner
T43

[Milton Shupe]

That a beautiful pic right there TuFun. :-)

I cannot make the adjustments requested as that would nullify the whole purpose of doing this project, which was to give the original model mapping FSX/P3D compatibility. Everyone of the 26 liveries I have would have to be changed, or would be unusable.

Regarding your two paint schemes on the remapped tail versions, if I can do those two models easily, I will do them. All future paints then would have the benefit of the revisions made.

[Milton Shupe]

By the way

Which is that texture?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66598&stc=1

Thanks

Roland

"Cabinwalls2.bmp"

[Milton Shupe]

Milton, you are fire. Your hard work is really apreciated by propellers lovers like me. In a couple of months you have updated XP-47, XP-72, D18S,Fleet Aircraft 50K, Avia 56 and the Lodestar (perhaps I have forgotten some one).

What are your plans for 2019? Congratulations Milton and team.

Arkanoid


Thank you Arkanoid.

I am restricting myself to converting FS9 projects to FSX native. My eye sight is not what it used to be and I have much to do yet. :wavey:

[Milton Shupe]

Dear Milton

WOW

I postpone my Avia 57 wish

And yes christmas is over, and easter far away-BUT

Some humble wish/suggestions to the new model(s)

bit higher VC resolution
an detachable steerinc column

with a gap lower priority

Those windows in 1 version

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66594&stc=1

Trigear

Thank you for at least reading

Roland

Roland, I agree that is a nice looking aircraft. Not likely you would find any detailed 3-views from which to model it though.

I have to be careful what I take on as I have restrictions in what I can do. Teamwork is what made our projects in the past. I pretty much work alone on most conversions. New project work is barely possible now.

[Willy]

Oh yes! Now we're talking! I'd gotten sidetracked on doing any Howards by r/l issues. Guess I need to get back on them.

[thunder100]

Roland, I agree that is a nice looking aircraft. Not likely you would find any detailed 3-views from which to model it though.

I have to be careful what I take on as I have restrictions in what I can do. Teamwork is what made our projects in the past. I pretty much work alone on most conversions. New project work is barely possible now.

As non modeller --> just FDE,Effects,Panels if I can help just ask

Apart that its allready a miracle how far an FS2002 model has come

THANK YOU

Roland

[Sundog]

Roland, thanks for the pics of the tri-gear version, I've never seen that before. The style of the windows make it look like a flying yacht.

[TuFun]

That a beautiful pic right there TuFun. :-)

I cannot make the adjustments requested as that would nullify the whole purpose of doing this project, which was to give the original model mapping FSX/P3D compatibility. Everyone of the 26 liveries I have would have to be changed, or would be unusable.

Regarding your two paint schemes on the remapped tail versions, if I can do those two models easily, I will do them. All future paints then would have the benefit of the revisions made.

I personally wouldn't want the original version changed and have almost all the repaints for that one.

I'll rework with bumps/spec on the revised models and add N4363F, N277X plus the other two.

Flap detail that I have... would like to add the metal strips and screws.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66615&stc=1

This will give an idea with bumps added...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4840/45891037065_10521a1631_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7831/31864682607_afba9d98c4_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7813/39840861193_131bacb93e_o.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4885/31864680057_aa0342f281_o.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

As non modeller --> just FDE,Effects,Panels if I can help just ask

Apart that its allready a miracle how far an FS2002 model has come

THANK YOU

Roland

LOL Actually, the Howard 500 was built for FS9 and converted to FS8 for the many users of that at the time. I did the same with the D18S and a few others once I started building for FS9.

[heywooood]

Roland, thanks for the pics of the tri-gear version, I've never seen that before. The style of the windows make it look like a flying yacht.

I had the same impression..like one from a Bond film..Octopussy etc..

[dvj]

Bring it on.

https://i.imgur.com/95msqUX.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Bring it on.

https://i.imgur.com/95msqUX.jpg

Just doing some testing with a couple pf P3DV4.4 users ... :-)

Looking for a paint kit that I can't seem to find here.

Just picked up a pack of 37 liveries from Com-Central ... link available will be posted later.

[Milton Shupe]

Found the original Paint Kit for the Howard 500 thanks to Willy. :-)

Here is a link to Com-Central's pack of 37 liveries for the Howard 500 - Members only.
Liveries are setup for the original so they will need to be changed to mirror the aircraft.cfg [fltsim.nn] sections for the new release.
Over half of the liveries are already in WIP package, those done by team members over the years.
Since I already have 18 paints included, I did not see a need to add more. But if you are interested, and a member, go for it.

http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=290


Wellis, Willy, Maj Kong and I are doing some testing and I hope we can get this out before too much longer.

[Milton Shupe]

Can anyone identify the original authors of these two paints? There were no identifying docs in the paints I have.

D-ITPP and N639SA

[modelr]

Can anyone identify the original authors of these two paints? There were no identifying docs in the paints I have.

D-ITPP and N639SA

Milton, N639SA was done by Gregory W. Hux "Mad Max" I have his listed email, if you need it.

Don H.

[Milton Shupe]

Milton, N639SA was done by Gregory W. Hux "Mad Max" I have his listed email, if you need it.

Don H.

Thank Don; can you PM me with that?

Milton

[Milton Shupe]

Also trying to identify artists who did these paints:

N785SA and Forestry Alaska C-GKFN

[Willy]

Milton, I was under the impression that D-ITPP was done by one of the guys at Com Central.

[Milton Shupe]

Milton, I was under the impression that D-ITPP was done by one of the guys at Com Central.

Strange there was no doc on it, at least that I can find.

Willy's TWA livery has been rocking my system today, and Damian's Coastal Command, Blue, and N500DR paints. Great stuff!!

[Milton Shupe]

Interesting Dee Howard website:

https://www.deehoward.org/the-dee-howard-legacy/howard-aero-inc

[modelr]

Also trying to identify artists who did these paints:

N785SA and Forestry Alaska C-GKFN

N785SA also done by Gregory Hux.

I can't seem to get into Com Central's website. My log-on no longer works, and their security system won't let me re register, (won't show security word.)



Milton, check your inbox.

[Milton Shupe]

N785SA also done by Gregory Hux.

I can't seem to get into Com Central's website. My log-on no longer works, and their security system won't let me re register, (won't show security word.)



Milton, check your inbox.

Thank you Don H. :-)

[modelr]

Thank you Don H. :-)

Thank You, Milton. Got the file.

Looking forward to this conversion. The Howard 500 has always been my favorite twin. I've seen N500HP at Oshkosh a few times, and it is a beautiful aircraft, in person.

Off to find a couple textures you are showing that I don't have. The TWA, and the Alaska Forestry schemes I seem to be missing. Thought I had all of them.

[Milton Shupe]

Thank You, Milton. Got the file.

Looking forward to this conversion. The Howard 500 has always been my favorite twin. I've seen N500HP at Oshkosh a few times, and it is a beautiful aircraft, in person.

Off to find a couple textures you are showing that I don't have. The TWA, and the Alaska Forestry schemes I seem to be missing. Thought I had all of them.

TWA and Alaskan Forrestry are not in that pack.
TWA is "incoming" from Willy.

I picked up the other many years ago but not sure where; had to be Flightsim, Avsim, or Simviation.

If you cannot find it, I'll send it to you.

[modelr]

TWA and Alaskan Forrestry are not in that pack.
TWA is "incoming" from Willy.

I picked up the other many years ago but not sure where; had to be Flightsim, Avsim, or Simviation.

If you cannot find it, I'll send it to you.

I just finished checking Flightsim and Avsim, no luck.

Turns out I had the CC pack, over in my FSX batch. Was looking in my FS9 one. Have 35 FSX textures installed, and 47 in FS9. I also have the updated tail model and TuFun's paints for it.

Since I fly P3Dv4 exclusively now, an FSX native Howard 500 will be fantastic.

[Catboat]

There's only two repaints by me for the revised tail model. Not sure if it's worth porting over for just the two.

Anyways if your willing the cowl should be shorter, but the exhaust deflectors or what ever there called should be longer and the side one lower on the nacelles below the wing root.
Would like to be able to detail the are below the wings on the nacelles with the proper art work. Also the flaps. A wish lists but it's entirely up to you.

Example:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66591&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66592&stc=1

P.S. I went digging and found all my psd files from 6 years ago just in case. :encouragement:

EDIT: Defiantly want to take a crack at this one. Lots pin striping in this one.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ee3ee3af208515ed228341aa020af589

https://www.airteamimages.com/pics/119/119706_800.jpg

Again on my WOW factor meter running 1 to 10, this is definitely a 15+. I think the aircraft with the tan-coloured nacelles appeared on the cover of "FLYING" magazine 20 or 30 years back! great article! I referred to my copy of "The Aircraft of the World" (1965 edition) just to have a look at the Mod-Shops around at that time: there were quite a few- Oakland Centaurus (Executive PV-2 Harpoon),
On Mark (Marksman A-Executive Douglas B26 mod.), PacAero (Learstar-Lodestar Executive Conversion), PacAir(Tradewind-beautifully proportioned single-tailed, tri-gear Beach 18 with panoramic windows and modified windscreen), Rausch(Star 250, similar to Tradewind but with raised roof line), Smith(Tempo II-very highly modified Douglas B26 executive aircraft), etc. There were also various executive versions of the Martin B26, and the Douglas A20. All with spectacular paint-work and incredible performance. What a time!! Thanks again Milton, and all concerned.

[Milton Shupe]

Catboat, that was undoubtedly quite the publication. Wow!

I guess it did not have the Howard 350, one I am working with now. :-)

Temporary textures. Just working on the fuselage right now.

Note the swept windshield framework, side windows, and more sleek nose and tail section.
Side windows will be tinted.

[TuFun]

I guess it did not have the Howard 350, one I am working with now. :-)

Temporary textures. Just working on the fuselage right now.

Note the swept windshield framework, side windows, and more sleek nose and tail section.
Side windows will be tinted.

Beautiful!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66735&stc=1

Most Howards I found thus far didn't have that walkway painted in that fashion. Only the N500HP seems to have that pattern.

Examples...

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1159771

Interesting to see the broken top line as the same as N4362F

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8537113932_7714d7a88a_o.jpg

http://aviationanoraks.co.uk/Archive/2011/2011_12_03%20Howard%20500%20N500LN1/slides/IMG_4027.jpg

[TuFun]

Again on my WOW factor meter running 1 to 10, this is definitely a 15+. I think the aircraft with the tan-coloured nacelles appeared on the cover of "FLYING" magazine 20 or 30 years back! great article! I referred to my copy of "The Aircraft of the World" (1965 edition) just to have a look at the Mod-Shops around at that time: there were quite a few- Oakland Centaurus (Executive PV-2 Harpoon),


There was two covers on this bird. Flying 1976, 1993.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZjsAAOSwDkdak1yC/s-l500.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/E2AAAOSwGwlaBnfR/s-l500.jpg

Also this one in blue almost the same pattern N896JB

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/98450/N896JB

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/93204/N896JB


(https://www.airhistory.net/photo/93204/N896JB)

[Maj Kong]

Anyone notice the similarity between the Howard 500 and the Lockheed Lodestar? Profile views especially.

[Milton Shupe]

Anyone notice the similarity between the Howard 500 and the Lockheed Lodestar? Profile views especially.

The Howard 500 was PV-1 based whereas the Howard 250-350 were Lodestar L-18 based.

The 350 I'm playing with now is from a concept drawing done for a customer that became the Howard 350. I intend to keep this one purely conceptual in design with some design changes to accommodate ease of construction.

I have used the Howard 500 as the basis for the fuselage, reshaped and rebuilt it.

Haven't decided what to do with the engines yet, round or turbine.

But, this is where I am now with the 350, a tail dragger.

[johndetrick]

So where is that paint kit?

[Milton Shupe]

So where is that paint kit?

John, long time, no see. :-)

Will upload the original shortly. Willy or Wellis may share their enhanced kits when they are ready.

Be aware that there were some changes over the years to the tails mapping.

The new FSX models will have both the original and revised mapping models available.

The paint kit has both with the new tails mapping just a template.

EDIT: Paint Kit now posted - http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=8&linkid=25131

[johndetrick]

Been lurking here. A career change at 59 has kept me busy. Thanks

[Milton Shupe]

For the Howard 350, set the AP, kick back, enjoy the scenery. :wiggle:

[mrogers]

Awesome! Way to go Milton! The 350 just looks great!
Both the Howard 500 and 350 were PV-1 based, the 250 is based on the L18 Lodestar. I think the Howard 500 was an almost entirely new airframe with PV-1 parts.

[expat]

The Howard 500 was PV-1 based whereas the Howard 250-350 were Lodestar L-18 based.

The 350 I'm playing with now is from a concept drawing done for a customer that became the Howard 350. I intend to keep this one purely conceptual in design with some design changes to accommodate ease of construction.

I have used the Howard 500 as the basis for the fuselage, reshaped and rebuilt it.

Haven't decided what to do with the engines yet, round or turbine.

But, this is where I am now with the 350, a tail dragger.

Oh my word absolutely brilliant!! Sorry traveling so just catching up. Love the panoramic window views!

Got to be radials definitely.

[expat]

The Howard 500 was PV-1 based whereas the Howard 250-350 were Lodestar L-18 based.

The 350 I'm playing with now is from a concept drawing done for a customer that became the Howard 350. I intend to keep this one purely conceptual in design with some design changes to accommodate ease of construction.

I have used the Howard 500 as the basis for the fuselage, reshaped and rebuilt it.

Haven't decided what to do with the engines yet, round or turbine.

But, this is where I am now with the 350, a tail dragger.

Hmm, something about that last screenshot has me anticipating!

[Milton Shupe]

Awesome! Way to go Milton! The 350 just looks great!
Both the Howard 500 and 350 were PV-1 based, the 250 is based on the L18 Lodestar. I think the Howard 500 was an almost entirely new airframe with PV-1 parts.

That's true Mark according to my original project docs from the "rebuilder".

The brakes were from the PV-2 though.

Here is some history from Dee Howard himself. (This document was sent to me by Dave Cummings, the pilot and maintainer of the Howard 500 at the time of the original project.)



The following info came to me directly from Dee Howard himself.

The Howard 500 was a hand built airplane designed by Dee Unger Howard. In 1949 Dee left Slick Aviation and chased after a dream to convert surplus military aircraft to corporate use and he began Howard Aero. His lead mechanic was Bulmaro Alarcon, his brother-in-law, was an aid to the president of Mexico. Bulmaro went to work for Dee in '55 a field rep and shop manager he worked for Dee for almost 40 yrs as he went on to work for the Dee Howard Corp. later. commissioned to find a plane to fly a wealthy business man from Mexico to NYC with non-stop. (From Mexico City). He used the inexpensive PV-1 as his first platform and found it had potential, but too limited in speed and high altitude flight. He went one step further and bought up a mess of ex air force B-34 Ventura's mainly from the S. African Air force. These became the Howard 350 though many parts trickled down to the 500 the wings and fuselages of the 500 were new. He got all he could from the 350 but again it lacked the pressurization, quiet comfort, and range he needed. So, he purchased the jigs from Lockheed of Burbank, to build the fuselages himself. Problem was, he found out he was not going to get the speed without the newer DC-6 engine and a new wing so he had to make his own wing jigs and decided on a wet wing to optimize wt. and capacity emulating the connies, dc4, and dc-6's. Back to the fuselage matter, with the requirement for press. He was forced to build the fuselages up from scratch due to the new transport category (car-4b) certification process he was seeking. He wanted his customers to know that his plane meets the new (121) standards of the day. (And they have had a tremendous safety record. not one plane was ever lost due to a mechanical failure!! still to this day). The confusion about its’ lineage comes in from guys tracing serial nos. of the B-34 to the Howard aero doorstep, only to appear out the other end as a 500. or so they thought. What actually happened was that Dee disassembled them and took as much as he could off each to support the 500. There are many original small parts but every major part from the Ventura has been altered in some form or fashion. I have also found that no two Howard 500's are the same. There are subtle differences on ea ship. The Howard 500 weighs almost 15,000 lbs more than the L-18. It has a tremendous horsepower advantage and more gadgets than Carter has pills. After some 46-47 L-18 and B-34 conversions which became Howard 250's and 350's he started on the 500 around 1957 and got the first ones out in 59-60. They only built 16 of them. and most were recalled to meet the car4b standards they went back out the door in 1963 and to the customers. All custom built interiors and accouterments, again, no two were the same. Just like a BBJ today walk in the door no two are the same. There are only 6 left today we have 2 of them. One is flying this is it!!! A logging co in Portland Oregon had it last and I did the restore for him. He owned a DC-3, beech 18, staggerwing g-17, stearman, amphib beaver and so on......

Specs:

N500hp.........yr 1960-63 Max speed.....ind. 306k
Standard airworthiness cert. Cruise.........50% pwr 270 kts/true
Mgw.......34,565lbs Vmc...........95kts
Empty......24000lbs Vso............80kts
Engines....P&W R2800 CB-16/17 2500hp. ea. Vlo............191kts
Props......Hamilton Standard 24E60 Vfe……….202 kts
Fuel cap. ......1546 gals = 9276lbs. About 4000 ft. for most ops.
Oil cap.........75 gal but 5500 ft + is best for field lengths
Grade.........100ll/115-145 Pressurization 6.75 to 1
Fuel flow.......200 gal/hr for flight planning (holds 2000 cabin @ 21000 ft)
Cruise..........184gal/hr wing span 71 ft..
Endurance ...... 8 hrs 10 min. length 57ft
Max range.......2200 nm. (2568 statute) height.....14 ft.
wheel tread........22ft.








Attributes/options/highlights

Darton preoiler system $10k
Darton oil evacuation system (clean kits) $40K
Oil and engine oil pumps preheaters built in.
115vAC 2250 KVA solid-state static inverters
New 100 KVA solid-state static instrument inverters
Heated wind screens (105 deg.)
Boosted flight controls (dual hydr. systems)
Goodyear Antiskid
Auto Feather
Auto Compressor diconnect
Deluxe Custom Restroom with modern outside filler port and service.
Total engine instrument redundancy (with LCD color graphics display)
Huge galley and built in CD, VCR, and 13" color TV.
Lots of hardwood (Birdseye maple MRI for voids)
Custom cockpit cabinetry (jepp chart case)
Large windows, huge external baggage!!
Fold out tables, fully reclining leather seats
7 foot couch.
Entertainment and oxygen at ea. Seat.
New halon fire extinguishers
Jump seat
Senheiser noise canceling headsets for the cockpit w/atc-music mode.

Times

5060 ttac
800 smoh
on precision airmotive engines
367 hrs smoh on props
Pitot static, transponder 2yr, altimeter, just done april 2002


Avionics

Dual king HSI (kcs 55’s)
Collins DME
dual KX 165 Nav coms
Dual king transponders
Dual king kma 24a audio panels w/mkr beacons
Dual ILS
Dual GPS Capability
UPS/APOLLO GX50 GPS
Couples to the no # 1 hsi and MFD
8” UPS MFD GX20 that displays every instrument approach in the USA
Full pilots and copilots flight instruments.
Third attitude indicator
King radar altimeter
BFG Wx500 stormscope
David Clark intercom
Gps to LOC/Nav auto switching when loc/gs freq selected

[Milton Shupe]

Oh my word absolutely brilliant!! Sorry traveling so just catching up. Love the panoramic window views!

Got to be radials definitely.

Thanks Expat; she left for the Wellis Paint Shop yesterday. :wavey:

And a large version of that screen shot is my Desktop background for inspiration.

EDIT: Also experimenting with a more streamlined engine exhaust shield for a sleek, "hot" look. LOL

Also have a PT-6 version I am testing just for kicks. I know, "blasphemy"! LOL But she kicks butt as well, just buzzy-noisey.

[Sundog]

Nice! We're getting an air yacht, and I mean that in a good way. It was already great and now it's just getting better. Thanks Milton and team.

[Milton Shupe]

Well, this is news to me. I see the Howard 250 Tri-Gear has nose wheel brakes. I have never seen nose wheel brakes on an aircraft.

[TuFun]

Curious about these on the wings... on the model its angles a bit and on the real aircraft they are straight.

[Milton Shupe]

Curious about these on the wings... on the model its angles a bit and on the real aircraft they are straight.

Yes, I see that. Cannot change now lest all the paints will not match up.

[Motormouse]

Well, this is news to me. I see the Howard 250 Tri-Gear has nose wheel brakes. I have never seen nose wheel brakes on an aircraft.

Hi Milton,

Not unheard of, other types which at one time or other had braked nosewheel include Me262, Boeing 727, and Saab Gripen.

Ttfn

Pete

[TuFun]

Yes, I see that. Cannot change now lest all the paints will not match up.

Understand, not considering the original version in my mind. Pretty much had the same problem with the C-47, limited to what I was doing so canned.

[rotorhub]

This is a very cool airplane, and a beautiful model!
Looking forward to try it out.

Rotorhub

[johndetrick]

Turboprop model sounds intriguing.

[Milton Shupe]

Understand, not considering the original version in my mind. Pretty much had the same problem with the C-47, limited to what I was doing so canned.

Traveling today but will do some testing this evening to try a change.

The issue is by making them straight back, the shape has to change from rectangular to parallelogram so the leading edge aligns with the tapered wing edge. In so doing, we may not have paint coverage, or the paint gets twisted. May not be an issue for generic paint in those locations.

But, if little things like this really frustrate you, you should probably quit any attempt to repaint it.

The models are simply likenesses; you know that by now. They are not exact in any way, shape, or form.
This particular model was done 15 years ago without 3-views, only a generically painted profile and reference pictures.
Yes, I have that same reference picture; just did not catch the angle thing back then, nor did a host of team testers, nor the real world pilot of the aircraft.

Move on Tufun to enjoy some other aircraft that is perfect and stop frustrating my years of imperfect freeware efforts. :wavey:

[Milton Shupe]

Hi Milton,

Not unheard of, other types which at one time or other had braked nosewheel include Me262, Boeing 727, and Saab Gripen.

Ttfn

Pete

Hi Pete, thanks for that explanation; never heard of it being used, but now I know. :-)

[magoo]

Cruise.........50% pwr 270 kts/true
Fuel flow.......200 gal/hr for flight planning
Jeeeeeezzzzzzz.....!!

Interesting how many things in the world that can evoke "jaw-drop", and for so many different reasons. Here's an example of two of them.....relatively speaking.

Easy to understand how the Howard 500 pilot could interpret a modern business jet as an "obstacle" while descending into pattern.

[Milton Shupe]

Jeeeeeezzzzzzz.....!!

Interesting how many things in the world that can evoke "jaw-drop", and for so many different reasons. Here's an example of two of them.....relatively speaking.

Easy to understand how the Howard 500 pilot could interpret a modern business jet as an "obstacle" while descending into pattern.

LOL Yes, and @ $1000 per hour for AVgas, one cannot wait to get landed and shut'er down. LOL

[TuFun]

But, if little things like this really frustrate you, you should probably quit any attempt to repaint it.

The models are simply likenesses; you know that by now. They are not exact in any way, shape, or form.
This particular model was done 15 years ago without 3-views, only a generically painted profile and reference pictures.
Yes, I have that same reference picture; just did not catch the angle thing back then, nor did a host of team testers, nor the real world pilot of the aircraft.

Move on Tufun to enjoy some other aircraft that is perfect and stop frustrating my years of imperfect freeware efforts. :wavey:

That's cool, wasn't looking at that way. I had fun painting them! Didn't want to start a controversy so I'll take your advice.

[Milton Shupe]

That's cool, wasn't looking at that way. I had fun painting them! Didn't want to start a controversy so I'll take your advice.


That's what it's all about; having fun as your handle suggests. Same with me. When I do these native conversions, I am not rebuilding the project, just making it compatible. So, modeling and mapping changes are rarely done mainly because it usually invalidates paint original works by others.

So, if what the original was like bothers you, the new one will likely still bother you. :-)

I have converted the passenger and cargo models of the original models, and the two remapped tail models. Also created a more casual set of pilots models, and the Howard 350. That will be the extent of the conversions and adjustments. All seven models use original panels and textures for compatibility. Sounds are by Nigel.

[TuFun]

No not bothering me just some suggestions if you were to update the model. Glad you explained the process and fine with that. As it is, it's good enough. :encouragement:

I might add that it's a classic and should be left as is that I understand. It has history.

[Milton Shupe]

No not bothering me just some suggestions if you were to update the model. Glad you explained the process and fine with that. As it is, it's good enough. :encouragement:

I might add that it's a classic and should be left as is that I understand. It has history.

Thanks for understanding. As much as we would like to improve on some things, it is usually impractical to do it while trying to preserve the invested hours of so many people.

[expat]

Endless enjoyment . .


https://i.postimg.cc/5NhtH0sS/Untitled-H500.png (https://postimg.cc/ykTKtV4D)

[Milton Shupe]

Endless enjoyment . .




It's great to find an aircraft in the sim that one can truly enjoy over time. I hope that continues with the new release and with the Howard 350.

Willy and Wellis are working to make them even more pleasing visually.

Also, appreciate the testing efforts of Maj Kong in P3Dv4; so far, things are going well. :jump:

[Willy]

Love that paint scheme! Is it going to be included?

[expat]

Love that paint scheme! Is it going to be included?

I can't paint anything like you Willy! It's actually Ted's (TuFun) hi res paint (N137U) which I "stepped on" i.e., re-colored very simply using dxt/bmp and GIMP. Got the idea from a photo of a Howard 250 taildragger. Also borrowed the rudder texture from someone else. I will need to get TuFun's permission to share it.

I actually find the lines of the Lodestar with Learstar or Howard 250 treatment the most elegant of the bunch. Can't beat the brutish performance of the H500 though!

http://www.goodall.com.au/photographs/80slockheed-twins/L18-Howard-250-N315F-Fort-Lauderdale-31.10.81-KKK.jpg

[Willy]

Still, it's a very nice scheme.

Things are hoppin' in San Antonio these days!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66925&stc=1

I'm redoing this one to take advantage of the new bells and whistles. The Alphas and Bumps still need some tweaking and the Specs need to be done up as well. But it'll get there.

[expat]

Couple more Lodestar/H250's

https://www.goodall.com.au/photographs/lockheed-twins-usa70/L18-N710BK-LGB-9.77-KKK.jpg


http://www.goodall.com.au/photographs/80slockheed-twins/L18-Howard-250-N1515V-Opa-Locka-21.10.81-KKK.jpg



And a Learstar

http://www.goodall.com.au/photographs/80slockheed-twins/L18-N403T-FLL-10.79-Learstar-KKK.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Really, the 250 taildragger? I thought folks liked the tri-gear better. :-)

Maybe I better preserve the tail gear after all.

Just finishing up the Lodestar based fuselage on this one; have not done anything yet with wings, engines, or moving the tail gear forward and the main gear aft. :-)

I need to find some slow start code (I think that Spokes2112 did) for all these radials.

EDIT: Okay, I will preserve a 250 taildragger as well just in case.

[expat]

Really, the 250 taildragger? I thought folks liked the tri-gear better. :-)

Maybe I better preserve the tail gear after all.

I have long suspected you can read my mind. Convinced now!

Yes, I think I was keen on the tri gear earlier too. Perhaps the taildragger looks better on the ground? Having either would be terrific - both would be exceptional!

[expat]

Those screen shots look devilishly retro cool!

[Sundog]

Oh wow, I didn't realize you were making the tri-gear, I just assumed the previews before were of the tail dragger. This is great and a source of frustration, because it takes me a half an hour to decide which of Milton's planes I'm going to fly in the sim! :encouragement: :very_drunk:

[Willy]

This is great and a source of frustration, because it takes me a half an hour to decide which of Milton's planes I'm going to fly in the sim! :encouragement: :very_drunk:

The struggle is real. But it usually goes to.. the Beech 18, uh... Lodestar, uh... Ventura, uh... Spartan, uh... Howard 500.....

[Milton Shupe]

LOL Just do them one at a time, or by day of the month.

Trying to wrap up fuselage re-mapped interior for the 250 and move on to nose gear before I can re-map the fuselage for textures.
Hope to get that done today.

Found my black window issue; failed to put the texture in the folder. Duh!
Part of the cockpit side windows will also be tinted deep to hide the cockpit rear panel and visibility into the cabin.

[Milton Shupe]

Oh wow, I didn't realize you were making the tri-gear, I just assumed the previews before were of the tail dragger. This is great and a source of frustration, because it takes me a half an hour to decide which of Milton's planes I'm going to fly in the sim! :encouragement: :very_drunk:

Me either :-) I get bored quickly and must keep busy. So, I thought I would see what I could do, if anything, with the Lodestar L-18 fuse. Took about 8 hours to eliminate old windows, doors, clean up the mesh, reshape the cockpit windows area and get the nose and tail and in between shaped to look right. Then recut the windows and doors, reshaping the tail fairing, and getting all the associated connected stuff to fit right. Seems like its going to work okay.

Got the interior cabin stripped out, refitted somewhat, and re-mapped for textures.

So, now, get some nose wheel doors cut in and built and animate nose gear is next up. Once that is done, I can move on to the engine changes to cowling, exhaust ring, add doors, and move the gear back, and animate them forward.

All busy work ... will get done eventually.

Have not read up on what Howard did, if anything, to performance compared to the L-18 with Wrights aside from a slicker fuselage and improved wings contributions.

Do you have anything on that?

[TuFun]

I can't paint anything like you Willy! It's actually Ted's (TuFun) hi res paint (N137U) which I "stepped on" i.e., re-colored very simply using dxt/bmp and GIMP. Got the idea from a photo of a Howard 250 taildragger. Also borrowed the rudder texture from someone else. I will need to get TuFun's permission to share it.

I actually find the lines of the Lodestar with Learstar or Howard 250 treatment the most elegant of the bunch. Can't beat the brutish performance of the H500 though!

http://www.goodall.com.au/photographs/80slockheed-twins/L18-Howard-250-N315F-Fort-Lauderdale-31.10.81-KKK.jpg

Cool blue color... by all means go ahead and release this one and any others you have in mind.

@ Milton, beautiful lines that 350 has sorta a dolphin in the sky!

I like blue... making blueprints is what I do for fun!

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7874/39982029283_64aeea3090_b.jpg

[Sundog]

Do you have anything on that?

I found this at Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=627308884051799&set=o.152969558064942&type=1&theater). It's a brochure for the 500 and 250. I've attached the H250 images as well.

Regards, Ken

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66945&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66948&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66947&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66946&stc=1

[Milton Shupe]

I found this at Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=627308884051799&set=o.152969558064942&type=1&theater). It's a brochure for the 500 and 250. I've attached the H250 images as well.

Regards, Ken

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66945&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66948&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66947&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66946&stc=1

Whoa! Well Done Ken :applause: :jump:

[Willy]

That 250 is one slick looking aircraft!

[Milton Shupe]

That 250 is one slick looking aircraft!

It'll be a keeper, Willy. Already, I like the way it taxis, the take off, landing and rollout.

Of course, the performance and efficiency are better than the L-18 in every way; cruise speeds 260-265 mph.

Working to tweak the nose gear responses and animations now. Need to get that right before I cut in the gear bay doors.

[zswobbie1]

Awesome stuff.
Are we FS9'ers going to be part of the party as well?
Pleeeze!

Regards
Robin

[wellis]

It'll be a keeper, Willy. Already, I like the way it taxis, the take off, landing and rollout.

Of course, the performance and efficiency are better than the L-18 in every way; cruise speeds 260-265 mph.

Working to tweak the nose gear responses and animations now. Need to get that right before I cut in the gear bay doors.



SWEET!:jump:

[Milton Shupe]

Awesome stuff.
Are we FS9'ers going to be part of the party as well?
Pleeeze!

Regards
Robin


Not likely Robin. Interestingly, converting from FSX native back to FS9 is more difficult than FS9 to FSX; so much is lost in materials and textures, and capability.
I won't totally reject the idea at this time but I do wince with pain just considering it. LOL

Not sure if one of the model converters can do this with less pain but I am open to someone giving that a go if it is possible.

[Willy]

It'll be a keeper, Willy. Already, I like the way it taxis, the take off, landing and rollout.

Of course, the performance and efficiency are better than the L-18 in every way; cruise speeds 260-265 mph.

Working to tweak the nose gear responses and animations now. Need to get that right before I cut in the gear bay doors.

I've been working on this paint scheme on and off for a good while. I started on it some time ago for the Alabeo Gee Bee Z, then decided it would look better on the Howard 500. It's one of those on and off the back burner specials. I ended up using it as a "generic" AI H500. But now I'm wondering how it would look all polished up on a Howard 250.

[Milton Shupe]

I've been working on this paint scheme on and off for a good while. I started on it some time ago for the Alabeo Gee Bee Z, then decided it would look better on the Howard 500. It's one of those on and off the back burner specials. I ended up using it as a "generic" AI H500. But now I'm wondering how it would look all polished up on a Howard 250.

Interesting Willy; looks a bit like this Howard 350. Maybe it would be there?

On the 250, now have the gear all placed and animated correctly; now on to the doors, cowling changes, prop spinners, brake lines, nose wheel brakes, etc.

[zswobbie1]

That would be great, Milton. I have all, Harpoon, Lodestar, Howard, Ventura etc in my FS2004 'History' install, I I thought that collection was complete, until I saw the 250 & 350.

So, any conversion takers out there, very big please.

BTW, I did a Best of Freeware 2018 FS2004 for Flightsim.com & it got more hits than their Beast of P3D & FSX, so there is still a large following of us out there.

Thanks, in anticipation,
Robin

[SSI01]

Looking forward very much indeed to this latest production. I have all the aircraft listed in zswobbie1's post in my FSX hangar and even got the Howard 500 for FS9 to work after a fashion in FSX. What you're in the process of doing is orders of magnitude beyond where I am.

No hurry, Milton - just sayin'. Can't hurry perfection. Or, to paraphrase Orson Welles, "We will release no aircraft before its time."

[Milton Shupe]

Looking forward very much indeed to this latest production. I have all the aircraft listed in zswobbie1's post in my FSX hangar and even got the Howard 500 for FS9 to work after a fashion in FSX. What you're in the process of doing is orders of magnitude beyond where I am.

No hurry, Milton - just sayin'. Can't hurry perfection. Or, to paraphrase Orson Welles, "We will release no aircraft before its time."

My goal is to deliver decent, interesting aircraft that have reasonable models, panels, sounds, textures, and a good flight model, be easy on frame rates, and be a product that people enjoy using and keep going back to.

Perfection is not anywhere in my mission, objectives, strategies or goals. :-) It takes too long (years) and is still subjective based on the eye of the beholder.
Wouldn't you rather fly it sooner than later?

Meanwhile, the 250 now has a nice set of refined chrome spinners. I have seen 3 types used,this is one of two.

[falcon409]

Beautiful looking airplane Milton.

[Milton Shupe]

Beautiful looking airplane Milton.


Thank you Ed; it's turning out better than I expected. Fun to work on and to fly. :wavey:

[dougbr2005]

Milton your dedication to the community in providing these great models is admirable, I for one have probably all your models in my FSX library. A huge thank you and keep up the great work. This model looks as good as all your previous efforts congratulations.

Regards

Doug

[Milton Shupe]

Thank you Doug for the comments; that's very kind of you. :-)


On the Howard 350 front, Wellis is working on details now for the fuselage now that the base texture is done.
Wings, engines, tails next.

He says it will get better .... really? Wow!

[expat]

Simply gorgeous!
Love the wood grain insets like country squire Ford station wagons we all saw in the 60s.

[Milton Shupe]

Simply gorgeous!
Love the wood grain insets like country squire Ford station wagons we all saw in the 60s.

Thanks Expat; Wellis is doing a great job on that 350.

Meanwhile on the Tri-gear 250, I am redesigning/reshaping the engines to make them more sleek and adding main gear doors. Lots going on there with so many parts.
Have also added nose gear brakes and brake lines to all gear.

This is the last flight of the 250 before the engines change over.

The wings also get a change for a more modern, less drag, faster speed make-over.

Hence, all major body parts have changed requiring an all new texture mapping for the aircraft.

[Milton Shupe]

Still working on the port side engine and wing with a total redo. I have most of the work done now to the cowling, exhaust ring area, nacelle, cowl flaps, and door covering to become the doors.

Also reshaped the left wing; just need to add back the nav lights.

Here is a comparison of the old L-18 wing and engine (starboard side) to the streamlined Howard 250 Tri-gear wing and engine (port side).

[Sundog]

Nice! I can see how that is much more powerful/sporty looking the 250 was with that comparison. :very_drunk:

[Milton Shupe]

Nice! I can see how that is much more powerful/sporty looking the 250 was with that comparison. :very_drunk:

The redesigned wings, nacelle extended tails, and the fuselage extended tail made quite the difference.

Just finished up the wing and engine redo, cloned to the right side and got things back in order.

Now on to fuse, wing, and engine re-mapping for textures before the animations are re-done.

[expat]

Wonderful stuff. Appreciate your doing all this hard work but this will be a real treat.

[Milton Shupe]

Wonderful stuff. Appreciate your doing all this hard work but this will be a real treat.

Thanks Expat. The bonus with the model upgrade will be a flight model (FDE) upgrade. A faster cruise speed and a little more nimble.

[heywooood]

she's a very pretty girl...
https://i.imgur.com/3q9zs4A.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Well, now with the fuselage, wings,and engines rebuilt and gear re-positioned, all except the tails had to be re-mapped for textures. That is now completed.
Once I get the interior (VC) model up-to-date with all those changes, she'll be ready for the paint shop.

[thunder100]

Milton

She looks really fast

Probably the pinacle of Prop businessplane ( apart AC560/680) , till everybody had to shift to Baron's due to running cost

Really splendid

Thanks a lot

Roland

[expat]

Expect other priorities need attending to but just wondering if this - these two actually (H 350 and H 250 Tri Gear) - are progressing.:wavey:

[Milton Shupe]

Expect other priorities need attending to but just wondering if this - these two actually (H 350 and H 250 Tri Gear) - are progressing.:wavey:

Indeed:

1) H500 - Willy is trying to wrap the bumps and spec adjustments on the TWA livery which will be a marquee entry along with N500HP

2) H350 - Wellis has just completed first cut of panel lines and rivets on the new fuselage mapping and is moving on to other body parts

3) H250 - Tailwheel variant - about ready for paint shop but luxury interior updates still needed

4) H250 Trigear - Exterior completed and mapped for textures; luxury interior updates needed yet

Yes, RW thingies happening as well to all three of us but these breaks in action are also healthy for the projects. In due time Sir :-)

A good diversion would be to download the A26 FSX native update by DaveQ and team; great stuff there. :-)

[expat]

Good gosh yes a lot is happening - many thanks for the update!
Learned a long time ago the virtue of patience having its big rewards with your many terrific projects over the years. Now, off to start up those twin R2800's in the meantime, lol, . . . :running:

[Willy]

I was wanting to do N500LN's new paint scheme, but it was pointed out to me that it's copyrighted. So, I contacted the shop that painted it and all I got was an ambiguous response, then silence. Oh, well. I'm kind of fond of the TWA paint anyway.

[TuFun]

Never liked that new scheme on the 500LN looks better on the Albatross. Preferred the early B&W paint scheme.

[RKinkor]

Never liked that new scheme on the 500LN looks better on the Albatross. Preferred the early B&W paint scheme. I agree, I hope somebody does one in that black and white!

[jamminjames]

Just checking in to see if there is any progress on this project!

[Milton Shupe]

Just checking in to see if there is any progress on this project!

Indeed, slow, but steady progress.

Bumps completed for the Howard 500, and the 350 textures are in progress.
The 500 and 350 will be released together.

The 250 will follow the 350 as a separate project.

[jamminjames]

Thanks for the reply Milton. Looking forward to having a Howard in my hanger, as I do to all your projects...

[LouP]

WOW :redfire:

[nagpaw]

Wow, Milton! Those are some swell looking machines. I can hardly wait to run down some more Citations and Lears...:encouragement:

[Willy]

I agree, I hope somebody does one in that black and white!

It was done by Damian "Windrunner" Radice. One of my favorites as well.

[Milton Shupe]

Wellis and I just wrapped up the Howard 350 and with beta testing help from WND. I'll get that uploaded in a few hours.

The Howard 500 is also about done, a few minor tweaks to make, but hope to upload tomorrow.

I just sent the Trigear and an executive custom taildragger to Wellis' paint shop yesterday.

[expat]

That is terrific news! Thank you!

[jamminjames]

A Gotta Have!!!!

[Brytskiva]

Can´t wait :jump::mixed-smiley-010:

[nagpaw]

Aaaaaaaand...I just cleared my calendar for the next few days. And ordered a few pizzas. Thanks, Mr. Shupe and team! :loyal:

[Milton Shupe]

LOL Thanks y'all. Wellis did a great job with the artwork, and of course, Nigel's sounds are always great.

The Howard 350 Concept was the original proposal to a client; the finished product was somewhat different.
I took a little artistic license with this one to ease the pain. :-)

Here she is:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/115136-Howard-350-Concept-for-FSX-Native-and-P3D

[PeteHam]

Thank you Milton & Team :applause: :applause:

Pete.

[Switchblade408]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwy1EP3-K2Q

Just had to do it........

[nagpaw]

The first flight's in the logbook! Departed HQM with a full boat and enough fuel to go wherever (I'm only equipped with a sixty minute rump, i.e. not real far). 200 knots indicated, 2,500 feet per minute uphill, and hit 4,000 feet on crosswind. Sprinted through a really wide pattern at 250 knots, let down easily and rolled her right onto the fixed distance markers with nary a chirp.

She flies great. She looks great. She sounds great.

She is great! Thanks again, Team! :applause:



Curious question: was the 350 pressurized?

[Panther_99FS]

Damian Radice....one of the nicest FS blokes ever....
He is missed....

[blanston12]

Wonderful news! Downloading now :redfire:

[blanston12]

Wonderful news! Downloading now :redfire:

I tried three times and for reasons unexplained the download keeps getting stuck at 73.2 MB of 73.3 MB and then the download fails with "Failed - Network error". Since its getting late I will try again another day..

Edit: Four times.

[thunder100]

THANKS A LOT

to

Uncle MILTON and Team

Best regards

Roland

[expat]

She's a fast mover, shaker and a real looker! WOW!

https://i.postimg.cc/d3TPdBFv/h35.png (https://postimg.cc/1VPj1D4Y)

[aardvark62]

Dream flyer!...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68453&stc=1

Thank you Milton and all involved!

Gary.

[Brytskiva]

Thanks for a nice Aircraft !

[jamminjames]

Thanks for this baby!

[Milton Shupe]

The first flight's in the logbook! Departed HQM with a full boat and enough fuel to go wherever (I'm only equipped with a sixty minute rump, i.e. not real far). 200 knots indicated, 2,500 feet per minute uphill, and hit 4,000 feet on crosswind. Sprinted through a really wide pattern at 250 knots, let down easily and rolled her right onto the fixed distance markers with nary a chirp.

She flies great. She looks great. She sounds great.

She is great! Thanks again, Team! :applause:



Curious question: was the 350 pressurized?

On behalf of the team, thank you very much. :-)

Yes, it was pressurized.

[Milton Shupe]

Damian Radice....one of the nicest FS blokes ever....
He is missed....

I agree with that comment P, he was also a great producer of super paints doing many for us on several different projects.

His paints for the Howard 500 featured in the upcoming release are some of my favs.

He is missed.

[Milton Shupe]

I have released a small model folder update (for the Howard 350) that adds in a proper landing gear lever.

The current VC lever can be hard to get the gear up although the down works fine.

You can get the small "Model folder only" download here.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=115146

[Milton Shupe]

Working to package up the Howard 500 now for beta testing. Should be out in a few days if all goes well.

This package will have the originally mapped models, plus the newer tail mapped models, and a few other updates all FSX native and tested in P3D v4.

[heywooood]

thank you, Milton and team for this updated twin...it is very fine.

https://i.imgur.com/5y9wZAv.png?1

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks for a nice Aircraft !

You are welcome Brytskiva; and thanks to all of you for your warm comments.

[expat]

Have to say, there is a word for it. Perfection.

https://i.postimg.cc/J4JMK2K9/H350-Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/ykVM8nMP)what does a forensic anthropologist do on a daily basis (https://forensicanthropologist.net/)

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks Expat :-) Great shot!

Did you find that Wing Ice Detection Light Switch on the Right Knee Console in the De-Ice Section. :-)

[Sundog]

I really like those panoramic windows. Great work everyone!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68461&stc=1

[ToniJH]

Thank you very much, just tested yesterady and another beauty into my hangar.

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks everyone. Happy that you can enjoy the 350, and hopefully the Howard 500 very shortly.

I do have a question for you all.

I have 21 liveries in the Howard 500 package with five models. These represent the original two liveries for the passenger and cargo versions, and around 16 liveries in total for the old model versions.
This includes around 11 from the late Damian Radice that are becoming hard to find, and now tweaked for the FSX native version.

There are also 4-5 paints from Ted Wolfgang (TuFun) that use the remapped newer versions of the Howard 500. These are the only paint version examples that use the newer remapped tail versions.

There is also a beautiful TWA livery from Willy that can be used with either the old or new passenger versions.

The package size is not extraordinarily large (167M download) but some have suggested maybe too many liveries for a release.

I did remove 10 other liveries from other artists and now down to the original authors, plus Damian Radice, Willy, and TuFun.

I will likely remove two liveries that I cannot identify the authors bringing the total liveries to 19 reducing total size by 10MB.

Do you have any suggestions or preferences in this regard?

[ToniJH]

167Mb it's not so big file size these days. You can create a another package that contains most of the liveries, but you only include 2 original repaints in main package if you want to make main package file size smaller?

[nagpaw]

I'm partial to one big download. It makes for less "clicking" around. But I understand that's a problem for many with slower Internet connections, so perhaps put an assortment of liveries in the main package, then group the remainder together in a separate package?

[LouP]

I'm partial to one big download. It makes for less "clicking" around. But I understand that's a problem for many with slower Internet connections, so perhaps put an assortment of liveries in the main package, then group the remainder together in a separate package?

This sounds fair :-)

LouP

[Sundog]

I'm for whatever makes your life easier with regard to packaging and uploading. Barring no difference there, I'm fine with what everyone else wants. Six of one, half dozen of the other as far as I'm concerned.

[Milton Shupe]

Packaging is already done; just wondering whether to remove any or not. :-)

My thinking is, it's a lot easier to remove what you do not want than to add what you do want. :-) LOL

Appreciate all your thoughts on the matter.

[thunder100]

Uncle Milton

I would leave the pack big
And yes an unknown artist-and yes there are rules

But I guess to talk for 90% of (tiny ) producers and community- Its am HONOUR to be on an MS&Team Plane

Just my 2 cents

Roland

PS:That 350 is a really looking fas ( in face is fast and works esentially well in P3D V4.4

[MrZippy]

Looking good so far! I did a test flight from KPDX to KPAE, less than a 1 hour flight. Near the end of the flight I lost the rear door, rudders, and it looked like I had a gigantic dive-bomber speed brake extending below the fuselage. I shouda taken a screenshot of that. Maybe next flight if I see it again.

68469

[MZee1960]

I love the bumps/spec and shine in the paint as shown in post #26 in this thread. ... Hopefully it will be one of the paints included. :encouragement:

[Milton Shupe]

I love the bumps/spec and shine in the paint as shown in post #26 in this thread. ... Hopefully it will be one of the paints included. :encouragement:

Thanks; bumps and specs have been done for all liveries included. I think Wellis has found the perfect balance of exceptional appearance up close while not degrading the appearance at 50'.

TuFun said earlier that the paints were still a WIP. I had them in the package for testing the remapped tail models but removed them when done. I left the aircraft.cfg [fltsim] entries in place as placeholders. The paints look awesome and hopefully he will finish and release them for us.

[Milton Shupe]

Looking good so far! I did a test flight from KPDX to KPAE, less than a 1 hour flight. Near the end of the flight I lost the rear door, rudders, and it looked like I had a gigantic dive-bomber speed brake extending below the fuselage. I shouda taken a screenshot of that. Maybe next flight if I see it again.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68469&stc=1

Yup, love the slow soft landing with those big flaps.

[nagpaw]

... just wondering whether to remove any or not. :-)

Remove? Are you mad?! :playful:

[Milton Shupe]

Remove? Are you mad?! :playful:

LOL Good one :-)

No, just trying to be considerate of everyone. :-)

[nagpaw]

I completely understand, although looking at your body of work, I'd say you've already cornered the market on consideration! :encouragement: I'm sure everyone will love whatever paints you include in the package. I know I can hardly wait!

[aspen31]

Hi Milton
Haven't read everything so don't know how much input you've had about operations in P3D V4. I flew the airplane in this simulator (v4.4) and flew with no problems I could find. Trims worked well and it stalled sedately - not sure if that would have been the case in the actual 500 but good enough for me - great sounds. Thanks for doing it and if a cargo version is ever available I would be very appreciative.
All the best.
Warren

[modelr]

Have a complete parking apron awaiting the 500 package arrival. All in one download, or split up, but please, don't remove any of the paints. I am one of those insatiable collectors who has nearly every repaint for every aircraft modeled, that interests me, which is nearly everything except the modern tubes. However, I do not have all of them, and there were, surprisingly, about a half dozen in your previews I don't have, and can't locate. Looking forward to this package. :redfire::jump:

[dvj]

Thanks everyone. Happy that you can enjoy the 350, and hopefully the Howard 500 very shortly.

I do have a question for you all.

I have 21 liveries in the Howard 500 package with five models. These represent the original two liveries for the passenger and cargo versions, and around 16 liveries in total for the old model versions.
This includes around 11 from the late Damian Radice that are becoming hard to find, and now tweaked for the FSX native version.

There are also 4-5 paints from Ted Wolfgang (TuFun) that use the remapped newer versions of the Howard 500. These are the only paint version examples that use the newer remapped tail versions.

There is also a beautiful TWA livery from Willy that can be used with either the old or new passenger versions.

The package size is not extraordinarily large (167M download) but some have suggested maybe too many liveries for a release.

I did remove 10 other liveries from other artists and now down to the original authors, plus Damian Radice, Willy, and TuFun.

I will likely remove two liveries that I cannot identify the authors bringing the total liveries to 19 reducing total size by 10MB.

Do you have any suggestions or preferences in this regard?

Send all of it. We can take out what we don't want.

-d

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks for the reports on the 350, and for the feedback on the 500 packaging.
The 350 release is done, and will not have a cargo variant.
The Howard 500 release does include a cargo variant.

The Howard 500 beta testing is wrapping up and I will likely have the release uploaded Friday.

I am including 16 liveries and have three placeholders for TuFun's liveries should he choose to finish them.

I am withholding 14 other liveries that are not my team's work.
These liveries are all available at Com-Central in the Howard 500 package (34 liveries). You must be a member there to download.
The CC packaged texture folders will need some careful management to slim them down to the appropriate textures with the common texture folder carrying most of the load.

[Milton Shupe]

There was a little delay getting to this Howard 500 upload as i was focusing on an FS9 variant of the Howard 350 for those simmers.

Today I will focus on getting the Howard 500 package reviewed and uploaded. Should be close to ready now.

[falcon409]

I want to add my thanks to Milton for continuing to feed the hungry masses with his classic aircraft now as native FSX. . .ensuring that they live on for years to come. . .a wonderful testament to his talents. Of course may thanks also to all those who joined with Milton "git er' done" in such a timely manner. . .well done to all those involved.

[falcon409]

My "tweaked" VC. I just need to find where the side walls are coming from so I can update those also.

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/g84/ejwells409/0/159f3147-03cb-4b9b-a3f1-601cc46056b6-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds (https://beta.photobucket.com/u/ejwells409/p/159f3147-03cb-4b9b-a3f1-601cc46056b6)

[speedy70]

Ed try post number 20 in this thread.

looks like cabinwalls2

[Milton Shupe]

My "tweaked" VC. I just need to find where the side walls are coming from so I can update those also.




Ed, you did a nice job with that update.

The sidewalls for the passenger version is cabinwalls2; for the cargo version, aluminum.

[falcon409]

Ed, you did a nice job with that update.

The sidewalls for the passenger version is cabinwalls2; for the cargo version, aluminum.
That's what I thought. I was hoping it was something else though as the change I was going to make (for the MATS livery) was to replace it with the padded "diamond" design soundproofing you see in many Military Cargo Airplanes. Can't do that though because the aluminum covers other areas besides just the walls.

Thanks!

[Milton Shupe]

That's what I thought. I was hoping it was something else though as the change I was going to make (for the MATS livery) was to replace it with the padded "diamond" design soundproofing you see in many Military Cargo Airplanes. Can't do that though because the aluminum covers other areas besides just the walls.

Thanks!

Ed,

Send that texture to me to use; tell me where it goes; I will remap the interior of the cargo variant to use it properly.

Thanks

[Milton Shupe]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/soh_ftp/uploads/imageuploads/553415552053599614.jpg
A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category FSX Civilian Props

Description: FSX Native Howard 500 for FSX and P3D
by Milton Shupe, Scott Thomas, Joáo Paz, Damian Radice, Nigel Richards, William Ellis, and Willy McCoy

Pkg incl 5 models (Passenger and Cargo - Original Mapping and Revised Tail Mapping), custom panel and gauges, custom sounds, custom Flight Model, and 16 liveries.

Tested in FSXA and P3Dv4 without issues however your appearances of the various liveries may be different based on your options settings.

Optional Paints Available by Web Search by - Tony Radmilovich, Matthew Garraway, Heather, Cha Seung Ho, Gregory W. Hux, and Siegfried Schaeffer, and others.

April 2019

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit Howard 500 for FSX and P3D - Native FSX (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?linkid=25348&catid=34)
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

[Milton Shupe]

The FSX native Howard 500 is now uploaded and available.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/115212-Howard-500-for-FSX-and-P3D-Native-FSX

[ToniJH]

Hi, first i want to thank you Milton and your team for making Native model of Howard planes for FSX/P3d. Today i started my first flight using Howard 500, when i press engine start switch in cockpit, plane acts very crazy, it turns around and crashes. Is there any solution for a safe engine start? I use Prepar3d v4.5

[TuFun]

Thanks; bumps and specs have been done for all liveries included. I think Wellis has found the perfect balance of exceptional appearance up close while not degrading the appearance at 50'.

TuFun said earlier that the paints were still a WIP. I had them in the package for testing the remapped tail models but removed them when done. I left the aircraft.cfg [fltsim] entries in place as placeholders. The paints look awesome and hopefully he will finish and release them for us.

Just took a spin in the FSX Howard and it's still an awesome aircraft! Will defiantly upgrade with better graphics.

This one will be first on the list...

https://live.staticflickr.com/7815/46690148395_e85bb20712_o.jpg

[Milton Shupe]

Hi, first i want to thank you Milton and your team for making Native model of Howard planes for FSX/P3d. Today i started my first flight using Howard 500, when i press engine start switch in cockpit, plane acts very crazy, it turns around and crashes. Is there any solution for a safe engine start? I use Prepar3d v4.5

Toni,

Ensure your prop, mixture and throttle levers are positioned properly, then try starting the left engine first if the right side start repeats the issue.

I have had it happen twice but only when I failed to properly position my prop levers. I always start the right engine first.

[Milton Shupe]

Just took a spin in the FSX Howard and it's still an awesome aircraft! Will defiantly upgrade with better graphics.

This one will be first on the list...

https://live.staticflickr.com/7815/46690148395_e85bb20712_o.jpg

Ah, thanks TuFun; that's great to hear. :applause:

[jamminjames]

I've been waiting for this and it was well worth the wait!!! Thanks to everyone involved. Brings back some old memories.....

[ToniJH]

Toni,

Ensure your prop, mixture and throttle levers are positioned properly, then try starting the left engine first if the right side start repeats the issue.

I have had it happen twice but only when I failed to properly position my prop levers. I always start the right engine first.

Hi, thank you for your help. That did the trick, engine started perfectly and i made my first flight from KLFT - KMGM and all worked fine.

[Willy]

Oh yes! I think I'm in love. I've got some paint schemes in mind already.

N007E in 1962 at the Howard Aero hanger. (scenery from California Classics 1962 Texas pack adapted to FSX SE)

[Milton Shupe]

Oh yes! I think I'm in love. I've got some paint schemes in mind already.

N007E in 1962 at the Howard Aero hanger. (scenery from California Classics 1962 Texas pack adapted to FSX SE)

OMG, the shadow broke! LOL

My fav of the new Howard 500 liveries is of course the TWA livery you did Willy. Thanks for that one! :applause:

[falcon409]

OMG, the shadow broke! LOL

My fav of the new Howard 500 liveries is of course the TWA livery you did Willy. Thanks for that one! :applause:
Mine also. . .great job Willy!

[aardvark62]

Marvellous!...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68571&stc=1

Thanks Milton and all involved.

Gary.

[expat]

My "tweaked" VC. I just need to find where the side walls are coming from so I can update those also

Ed, did you get the sidewalls you wanted to show? I like the look of the lighter quilted pattern.

I must already have your tweaked panel textures in next to latest H500 as these look sharper so shouldn’t need to re-send/upload/re-download but not sure which ones exactly I need to copy and paste across to the 350. Gauges also seem clearer in the same (previous version FSX H500 native) model - is that also possible?

[expat]

Actually no need to respond as I found your tweaks here in the Library

[FlyingsCool]

There's a really nice article about the Howard 500 in the latest AOPA Pilot magazine (May 2019).

[Greenhouse357]

Thank you Milton and team!

[MZee1960]

It's like Christmas in April ! :adoration:

Thank-you, to all involved in this beautiful project.

[Milton Shupe]

Thanks for all the comments; greatly appreciated.

We have two more Howard type variants in the paint shop - a Trigear and a taildragger actually based on the Lockheed L-18.

The Trigear is really a sweet ground handler and flyer.

[MrZippy]

Looking great, Milton!:applause: So far, so good on the Native FSX Howard. Smooth as chunky peanut butter:encouragement:

[Milton Shupe]

TuFun identified a mapping issue some time ago and I forgot to correct it in the Howard 500 release.

All five Howard 500 models are affected.

I have corrected the main archive but for those of you who have already downloaded and installed the FSX native Howard 500, I have a small fix for you including only the five model folders.

Download, unzip and copy the replacement model folders to your Howard 500 FSX folder replacing existing.

http://www.sim-outhouse.net/downloads/SOHTeam/hw5mdlupdt.zip

[gray eagle]

I found in one of the howard 500 zip files (Jan 2019) a thumbnail of this texture but not the texture.

https://i.postimg.cc/RZxRv6HM/N303.jpg

[FlyingsCool]

Surprised that this livery has not been done for the Howard 500:
Been searching and have not seen it anywhere.....

https://tpaero.com/n500ln/

Funny, I almost started that one last night.... Maybe

[gray eagle]

Funny, I almost started that one last night.... Maybe

I think that one maybe copyrighted. See #118.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SbGar02DjVsJ:www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/114232-FSX-Native-Howard-500-from-Milton/page5+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[gray eagle]

Marvellous!...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68571&stc=1

Thanks Milton and all involved.

Gary.

Where can I find this livery? I didn't see it in the new FSX/P3d release....

[Milton Shupe]

I have uploaded the liveries I did not include in the package.

PM me for a link.

[gray eagle]

I have uploaded the liveries I did not include in the package.

PM me for a link.

Milton
I found your link and now have the texture.sh livery now. :encouragement:
Thanks for all the extra liveries too.

[expat]

Just wondering - patiently, respectfully - if there may be any further new on these fine models?

[FlyingsCool]

I think that one maybe copyrighted. See #118.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SbGar02DjVsJ:www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/114232-FSX-Native-Howard-500-from-Milton/page5+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Hmm,

I know zero about the law around this... However, seems to me that would be a problem if I was trying to sell something, or paint my own plane in a similar manner to theirs and had a business around it. But, being that this is a completely different medium; if I did it I would be giving the work away for free with the stipulation that it could NOT be used for sale in any product; the point of creating the repaint would be to represent flying the actual plane, in effect doing free advertising for them and garnering interest in others to actually go out and see the plane; it seems to me the reason their response was non-sensical and then silent was because there would probably be no legal problem in the end and/or they probably don't care all that much. If they did care their answer would have been a resounding "No". The Howard is a free model, there's no money going around on this, I personally don't see an issue here. And, yes, I do believe in paying people for their work and never expect anything for free.

I do know stinks have been made in the past from airlines and such (as weird as it may seem.. for valid business reasons), and I suppose that they could attempt to go after Lockheed for some of their profits. But I highly doubt they'd bother to try. I'd be happy to give them every cent I make off of the repaint ;)

IOW, if it's stopping others from doing the paint, unless Milton has a problem with it, if I can find the time for it, I'll do it.

I welcome a response from the owners to my statement above. Obviously I'd be giving them full credit for the design and letting people know exactly who owns the plane and where people can go see it.

[TuFun]

https://www.schemedesigners.com/copyright-information/




Any use of the scheme by anyone other than the client and Scheme Designers, Inc. for any purpose whatsoever is considered an infringement of the copyright and is subject to enforcement of the copyright by Scheme Designers, Inc. and/or its clients.


https://schemedesigners.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/sampleprojects_orangebar.png © 1997 to 2019 by Scheme Designers, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms and conditions. (https://www.schemedesigners.com/policies/)

[expat]

Any use of the scheme by anyone other than the client and Scheme Designers, Inc. for any purpose whatsoever is considered an infringement of the copyright and is subject to enforcement of the copyright by Scheme Designers, Inc. and/or its clients.



I would be very surprised if they took action against freeware repaints of their designs in a flight sim. And if they did, they would face looking a bit foolish if it ever got before a sensible judge or arbitrator. Their business is painting real airplanes, not digital ones in a game. They could not prove economic loss. Of course, if they wanted to be jerks - like a well known biz jet maker :wink:- they might send a "cease and desist letter" and the sim painter could then sensibly decide to take down his or her earnestly prepared and generously shared work. That would be the end of it.

Intellectual property right infringement is not the same as "breaking the law" or doing anything "illegal." It is up to the copyright owner whether or not to spend the time and money enforcing their valid rights against others pirating their work. Here that would seem unlikely. Please don't misunderstand my point: copyrights are important and holders of these are fully entitled to enforce them and these laws are necessary to protect people's valuable creative work. This is about the practicality of this company doing anything re sim repaints. This is reinforced by the fact that there are a large number of their sample paint jobs on their site that already appear on many downloadable freeware repaints - I bet most of you have some of them (e.g., check out their warbirds samples) - and there are no apparent reports of their doing anything about it.

[TuFun]

I shouldn't be all that difficult to contact them or TP Aero.

Base drawings are created by Scheme Designers, Inc. for use in creating paint scheme designs for its clients. Should you wish to obtain a base drawing of an aircraft for personal use, contact Scheme Designers, Inc. for permission and we will be glad to share it with you. Base drawings are not shared for commercial purposes, and are not to be used for any commercial purpose without the express prior written permission of Scheme Designers.

I do agree that for freeware that it's shouldn't be a problem.

[expat]

Thanks for all the comments; greatly appreciated.

We have two more Howard type variants in the paint shop - a Trigear and a taildragger actually based on the Lockheed L-18.

The Trigear is really a sweet ground handler and flyer.

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Just wondering if these fine fellas have made it out of the paint shop?

[Milton Shupe]

Just wondering if these fine fellas have made it out of the paint shop?

Hello Expat; Wellis and I are about done with these two so not much longer to wait.

Wellis is wrapping up the Tri-gear liveries and working on the taildragger scheme I believe.

Maybe he will chip in for a more up-to-date report.

Thanks for hanging in there with us on these two craft.

[expat]

Looking mighty fine + appreciate the update!

[Brian_Gladden]

Drooling over the Tri-Gear...

[Milton Shupe]

Hi Brian; shouldn't be much longer.

We were wondering whether to show weathering or keep it clean.
Panel lines and rivets are subtle, bumps and specs active.

[Brian_Gladden]

Hi Brian; shouldn't be much longer.

We were wondering whether to show weathering or keep it clean.
Panel lines and rivets are subtle, bumps and specs active.


Clean please but maybe a weathering layer in the paint kit?

I mean if owner the real one, if I wasn't flying it, I'd be waxing it (even though it's a pain. I used to clean airplanes for a living. I can tell you where every rivet is on a King Air C-90.....)

[Milton Shupe]

Clean please but maybe a weathering layer in the paint kit?

I mean if owner the real one, if I wasn't flying it, I'd be waxing it (even though it's a pain. I used to clean airplanes for a living. I can tell you where every rivet is on a King Air C-90.....)

Man, that's got to be a lot of work.

But, Clean it shall be then. :-)

BTW Brian, do you use gmax at all?

[wellis]

Hello Expat; Wellis and I are about done with these two so not much longer to wait.

Wellis is wrapping up the Tri-gear liveries and working on the taildragger scheme I believe.

Maybe he will chip in for a more up-to-date report.

Thanks for hanging in there with us on these two craft.


Yes, thanks for hanging in indeed. My wife and I have been dealing with some RW things here the last several weeks and for the second time since the end of July a beloved pet will not be with us for much longer (we lost the first one 29 July). Over the course of the last 10 days or so I have attempted to remain distracted from raw emotions and focused on finishing up my part in this, with mixed results. As Milton said, I too apologize for this dragging on.

I hope to have the final drafts to Milton in the next few days and paint kits tidied up a short while after.

As far as the finish on the two models I have not done any weathering as the available photos of the liveries I have chosen depict clean and highly polished machines. However, I will include a weathering layer or layers to the paint kits. I should note that the taildragger version uses components (wings and engines) of the original Lodestar kit (I am not the author) and has weathering built in. This will add a day or two.

Anyway I will strive to have this done by the end of next week. Attached is a screen cap of the livery I am doing for the taildragger.

[expat]

Looks great! Thanks for all your good and hard work on this.

[Brian_Gladden]

BTW Brian, do you use gmax at all?

Nope. I was an FSDS man from wayyyy back in 2000 or so. I recently repurchased FSDS 3.5 but haven't really done anything with it other than a quick scenery object for my personal use... Mostly I've been trying to convert a few older FS9 models to FSX native for my own use.

[Milton Shupe]

Nope. I was an FSDS man from wayyyy back in 2000 or so. I recently repurchased FSDS 3.5 but haven't really done anything with it other than a quick scenery object for my personal use... Mostly I've been trying to convert a few older FS9 models to FSX native for my own use.

Yes, I do recall that history; used to fly some of your aircraft back in the day. :-)

The reason I asked, I want to share all my gmax inventory for those interested and was thinking of you, some of the CFS2 guys, and Shessie. among others.