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tailspin45
December 21st, 2018, 10:23
Drop-in GCA add-on for Manfred Jahn's C-47 V3 coming soon. Adaptable to other aircraft with some fiddling. Works in FSX and P3D.

Approach Controller provides vectors to PAR intercept, GCA Final Controller talks you down to the runway threshold.

No, we don't know when it will be released, but "real soon now"... IOW, when it's done. Clips in video were recorded live.

A short history of the 'blind landing' systems is available as PDF here (http://justplaneprints.com/wp-content/Ground%20Controlled%20Approach%20V6.pdf)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoKFo02nmw

SkippyBing
December 21st, 2018, 10:57
Excellent! Looking forward to it.

DennyA
December 21st, 2018, 11:17
That's so cool! Can't wait to try this.

Love the creativity of this community.

sketchy
December 21st, 2018, 13:00
Very cool, and cracking video!

Looking forward to it.

jmbiii
December 22nd, 2018, 04:06
That brings back memories. Some that made you clench your 'pucker'.
Can't wait to relive some of them.

Navy Chief
December 22nd, 2018, 08:26
Back in the 1970s, when I would get back seat rides at Patuxent River, I remember listening to the pilot communicating with ATC for GCA's. It was so cool, hearing the air traffic controller's instructions to the pilot, and then feel the aircraft turn, descend...etc... NC

spatialpro
December 22nd, 2018, 09:26
Excellent! I've been wanting something like this for ages!

It would be good to be able to use it with other aircraft too please, as I'd like to give GCA talk down a go with both classic fast jets and helicopters.

BTW, I've been wanting to model Gilfillan Bros. CPN-4 and MPN-11 for a while now, but haven't located any blueprints. Do you know of any? With them done I'd be much closer to finishing some long-time scenery projects I've had on the boil for longer than I care to admit!

Many thanks

Andy

tailspin45
December 24th, 2018, 11:18
Excellent! I've been wanting something like this for ages!
BTW, I've been wanting to model Gilfillan Bros. CPN-4 and MPN-11 for a while now, but haven't located any blueprints. Do you know of any?
I found a number of good pictures while writing the history of GCA, but no blueprints.

Experience to date says the add-on should be able to work with other aircraft. Just shot a climb power approach, with gear and flaps up, which gave me a 170 knots IAS on the glideslope and it handled it fine. So it should work great in the vintage jets. I'm guessing any aircraft that uses the plain vanilla FSX/P#D autopilot can be made to work, but probably not the PMDG and A2A birds with external processes handling the autopilot. It'll be fun to work on it together and find out.

spatialpro
December 24th, 2018, 12:34
Not even ITT could (would?) help me with CPN/MPN drawings! No joy with the likes of USAFM, RAFM, FAAM etc.

When is your book due to be published?

Regarding your add-on, might we have voices in different languages and accents please?

Navy Chief
December 25th, 2018, 04:09
I found a number of good pictures while writing the history of GCA, but no blueprints.

Experience to date says the add-on should be able to work with other aircraft. Just shot a climb power approach, with gear and flaps up, which gave me a 170 knots IAS on the glideslope and it handled it fine. So it should work great in the vintage jets. I'm guessing any aircraft that uses the plain vanilla FSX/P#D autopilot can be made to work, but probably not the PMDG and A2A birds with external processes handling the autopilot. It'll be fun to work on it together and find out.

Quite possibly I can acquire some information from you at the Navy's Air Traffic Control School, here in Pensacola. Let me know, and I will try. They are closed, am sure, until after New Year's Day, but I will gladly make a trip. Less than a hour from my house. NC

tailspin45
December 26th, 2018, 14:33
A quick and dirty video that will give you a better idea how Manfred's GCA add-on works. Looking like mid-January now, because of holidays.

The final controller, you'll note, wasn't giving heading calls when no change was required (he should have been, and will.) Still working on terminology.

This is an approach in to 9100' Telluride Colorado with 300' and 1/2 . If you've ever flown in there you'll recognize the cliff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ch4W26eYw

YoYo
December 26th, 2018, 14:59
Nice speeches of co pilot also! Are they part of this extension?

spatialpro
January 2nd, 2019, 00:27
Quite possibly I can acquire some information from you at the Navy's Air Traffic Control School, here in Pensacola. Let me know, and I will try. They are closed, am sure, until after New Year's Day, but I will gladly make a trip. Less than a hour from my house. NC

Many thanks for the offer! I've sent you a PM... hopefully it arrived???

Andy

spatialpro
January 2nd, 2019, 00:35
Really looking forward to this GCA addon!

Just asking again if Manfred is likely to include voices in different accents (I'd volunteer to do British ones!) and perhaps even different languages?

Also, is it possible to adjust the angle of the glidepath (e.g. for approaches with steeper terrain)?

One day a version capable of complex approaches (i.e. non straight-in approaches) would be fabulous!

Andy

seawing
January 19th, 2019, 02:39
Any updates on this fascinating project?

Best regards,

Seawing

mpni
January 28th, 2019, 00:23
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/114354-FSX-P3D-Douglas-C-47-Skytrain-with-classic-GCA-zip

tailspin45
February 1st, 2019, 09:38
P3D V4.3 default KC-130H with new generic GCA add-on that you can add to most aircraft - coming soon!

RVR1000 at KNZY

https://youtu.be/fiZQuEb3F-Q (https://youtu.be/fiZQuEb3F-Q)

thunderstreak
February 3rd, 2019, 12:51
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66996&stc=1

Thanks to all involved for this incredible add on.
Really enjoying the challenge of mastering a GCA!

Cheers, Bernard