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Dino Cattaneo
September 10th, 2018, 02:28
All,

sorry I have not been very active here on SOH for a while - I have been very busy enjoying my vacations and then coming back to work was intense...

I just wanted to let you know that the C-2 Greyhound and the E-2C Hawkeye are coming for both FSX and P3D. No release date has been set yet, but I hope they will be released before Chirstmas.
The external models are pretty much done - the E-2 needs some minor detail, while the C-2 is done. Both will have the old 4-blade prop and the new 8-blade NP2000.
They will both share the same VC model, which is a sort of "average" between the C-2 and the E-2 cockpit (they have very similar but not identical cockpits in reality). At the moment the cockpit has "steam" gauges, but I hope to squeeze in also the digital version.
Roy Holmes is doing the flight models.
This is a payware effort in line with my previous offerings...


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63418&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63419&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63420&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63421&stc=1

CIMOGT
September 10th, 2018, 03:37
Great news, excellent work as usual



All,

sorry I have not been very active here on SOH for a while - I have been very busy enjoying my vacations and then coming back to work was intense...

I just wanted to let you know that the C-2 Greyhound and the E-2C Hawkeye are coming for both FSX and P3D. No release date has been set yet, but I hope they will be released before Chirstmas.
The external models are pretty much done - the E-2 needs some minor detail, while the C-2 is done. Both will have the old 4-blade prop and the new 8-blade NP2000.
They will both share the same VC model, which is a sort of "average" between the C-2 and the E-2 cockpit (they have very similar but not identical cockpits in reality). At the moment the cockpit has "steam" gauges, but I hope to squeeze in also the digital version.
Roy Holmes is doing the flight models.
This is a payware effort in line with my previous offerings...


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63418&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63419&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63420&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63421&stc=1

Cees Donker
September 10th, 2018, 04:31
That's great news Dino! Naval aircraft are always a very welcome addition!

:encouragement:

Cees

tgycgijoes
September 10th, 2018, 04:48
It has been a long time in coming for these venerable staples of the USN as well as other navies. Progress so far is fantastic. Looking forward to them.

Bunkiester
September 10th, 2018, 05:14
I'm really looking forward to these! It will be nice to able to replace the old Abacus models...

Mark

stovall
September 10th, 2018, 06:09
Thanks for the update Dino, two more great aircraft to look forward to. The images are stunning.

expat
September 10th, 2018, 07:40
Fills a long standing gap - and by a top modeler!

seawing
September 10th, 2018, 10:50
Great news! Been waiting for a proper version of these for years!

Best regards,

Seawing

YoYo
September 10th, 2018, 11:04
Hi Dino,
as I saw it yesterday, the VC will be te same (gauges ect, its ok for me too), but the whole frame of VC the same too?
Both planes has different size of windows and frames. 3D models examples:

E-2:

http://i.imgur.com/5kXQ01al.jpg (https://imgur.com/5kXQ01a)

C-2:

http://i.imgur.com/lOimfoCl.jpg (https://imgur.com/lOimfoC)

Crusader
September 10th, 2018, 11:58
I'll be standing in a long line for these from a top modeler .

edakridge
September 10th, 2018, 12:12
Looking forward to both of these Dino!

Dino Cattaneo
September 10th, 2018, 12:21
@YoYo

Currently I plan to use exactly the same cockpit model for both. Apart from the fact that I would not take the renderings you picked as a reference (one being from the 3D model of the cockpit of the E-2 on sale at Turbosquid - by the way I am using part of this geoometry - and the other being from the abandoned C-2 project from another developer) in the real world there are a number of differences:
- As you pointed the shape of the outside windows is slightly different, as they are more angled in the E-2 and the nose is longer, but frankly the difference in reality is not that big (in my models they are closer to the E-2).
- The glareshield shape and the main panels are also slightly different in size, but again, differences are minor.
- All the E-2C have digital gauges for the engine instruments, while all the C-2 have mechanical dials (my model has mechanica dials...that is incorrect for amy E-2 later than the -B).
- The "roof" of the cockpit is almost identical, and so is the central section.
- The C-2 has an additional row of buttons on top the cockpit glareshield (absent from my model)
- The side panels are considerably different, with a number of instruments in the E-2 which are absent from the C-2 (my model is closer to the E-2)
- Of course the E-2 lacks the cargo door controls etc.

(Picturer below are almost 1 month old...the one in the initial post are more representative of the final product, but still WIP).

"My cockpit" is a sort of average between the two - surely a number of purists will disagree on this choice, but I felt it was the only way to deliver both airframes in a reasonable time... Frankly it does not look particularly bad or out of place on both.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63431&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63432&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63433&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63434&stc=1

Dino Cattaneo
September 10th, 2018, 12:39
...and in reply to two FAQs I've received on my Facebook page, since (at least for the moment) the cockpit model is shared):

- The C-2 does not have a passenger view.

- The E-2 does not have a radar operator view.

Once the "main" cockpit model is debugged, I'll see if it makes sense to add at least the latter... but my priority is to offer a "digital EFIS" variant, as all the aicrafts that have the NP2000 props have it...and it should not take that long to do it.

With the current pace, a Beta 1 version will be ready by the end of September (with at least the C-2) - Ideally I'd like to release the final package before the end of November.

Josh Patterson
September 10th, 2018, 12:53
Hey Dino! Glad you came to the rescue as I was totally bummed out when Virtavia released their E-2 for steam only. Not only this but you're doing a Greyhound as well. (I've always thought that Greyhound was an odd name for a rather portly aircraft!) Are you marketing these separate or together as a single release? After the Typhoon (thanks for the Gina texture BTW!) I'm really looking forward to them however they come!

fallenphoenix1986
September 10th, 2018, 13:56
(I've always thought that Greyhound was an odd name for a rather portly aircraft!)

Might be completely wrong but I always thought it to be a reference to old Greyhound buses, makes sense given that the C-2 is a bus/truck for the fleet.

Dino Cattaneo
September 10th, 2018, 14:21
@Josh Patterson

The original intent was to market them together as a package...but the latest build started to be a little too big in terms of file size / features... I'll take the final decision after the Beta.

@fallenphoenix1986

...as far as I know your are correct!

edakridge
September 10th, 2018, 15:36
Dino, I for one would love to see the Radar Operators position modeled. As a member of a multiplayer group having a carrier borne AWACS would be fantastic!

Dino Cattaneo
September 10th, 2018, 16:16
At the moment there are a couple of problems in modeling the radar station(s).
First, and at the moment most important, it will disrupt the commonality of the virtual cockpit models - making the project much harder to manage.
Second, the documentation publicly available on the E-2 is abundant, but radar station is not covered in the flight manual (apart from occasional mentions) - so there is not much to start with.
We'll see later on - the important thing at the moment is to complete and debug the baseline design...and later we can see how to expand it.

simulloyd
September 10th, 2018, 16:22
These addons will be welcomed by many. The last available payware Hawkeye I remember was only available for FSX Steam. I wonder how that one is selling.

Sundog
September 10th, 2018, 17:37
Awesome news Dino! I've wanted a C-2 for a long time. The cargo plane with the coolest paint schemes. :)

strykerpsg
September 10th, 2018, 18:11
Again, more great news. Anything you make with a hook (as well as without) always great stuff.

DennyA
September 10th, 2018, 22:16
The artistic license is fine with me.

Also, it should keep away the rivet counters. So, win/win!

YoYo
September 11th, 2018, 00:47
It will be nice to see how it works with arresting system of SWS Midwaygroup :wavey:.
I have it but never installed :(, not many time for this so I’ll wait for C-2/E-2.

edakridge
September 11th, 2018, 01:17
Data and pictures are scarce because most of the electronics are classified, but i did find this cutaway view:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63441&stc=1

Dino Cattaneo
September 11th, 2018, 03:47
Indeed the avionics are classified - the flight manuals, however, do report the general layout of the station (in order to depict where the radio controls are) and there are pics here and there.
None is clear enough to read the labels on the switches, however.
Anyway, I think we could live with some guessing and a little bit of fiction... in any case the radar system would need to be adjusted to FSX/P3D.

Also, I have placed a poll on my facebook page to collect potential users' preference on going for a single package (E-2 and C-2 models in one product, shared cockpits with some inaccuracies) or two separate packages (C-2 and E-2 sold separately but with more accurate cockpits - and possibly the radar station for the E-2).
Should I decide to go for separate products, the E-2 may slip after Christmas.
Aside, the price of each package will be the same of my previous offerings (25€ plus taxes) - just because it makes accounting much easier...

edakridge
September 11th, 2018, 04:32
I personally would rather have it a little late, yet more complete and have no issue with it being two packages.

Matt Wynn
September 11th, 2018, 05:34
After the Typhoon (thanks for the Gina texture BTW!) I'm really looking forward to them however they come!

just don't call 'Zulu' (Her Tail Coding) that 'GiNA' name in front of the techs/mechs or old crew of her... I got my ear chewed about it when I slipped up saying it :nightmare:

looking forwards to the pack Dino, whichever way you do it; whether solo packages or bundled! :wiggle:

YoYo
September 11th, 2018, 05:49
Indeed the avionics are classified - the flight manuals, however, do report the general layout of the station (in order to depict where the radio controls are) and there are pics here and there.
None is clear enough to read the labels on the switches, however.
Anyway, I think we could live with some guessing and a little bit of fiction... in any case the radar system would need to be adjusted to FSX/P3D.

Also, I have placed a poll on my facebook page to collect potential users' preference on going for a single package (E-2 and C-2 models in one product, shared cockpits with some inaccuracies) or two separate packages (C-2 and E-2 sold separately but with more accurate cockpits - and possibly the radar station for the E-2).
Should I decide to go for separate products, the E-2 may slip after Christmas.
Aside, the price of each package will be the same of my previous offerings (25€ plus taxes) - just because it makes accounting much easier...

Personally I prefer second option. Voted.
Btw. what about TacPack?
Do You have to add it here Dino? I havent idea about options but maybe NVG, Tacan Carrier (VOR), so no weapon fonctions.
Id like to see also rain effect on windshields for P3Dv4 users, like default Maule :).
Thx for any reply! :wavey:

Dino Cattaneo
September 11th, 2018, 06:13
@Yoyo

Unarmed planes are intrinsically "valid" for Tacpack... However it would be cool to use the Tacpack radar functions for a better radar emulation on the E-2, but currently Tacpack is hard-coded for forward looking radar only.

Rain effect is unlikely to happen, at least initially, since using it disrupts the compatibility with FSX.

Aharon
September 11th, 2018, 06:36
Looking forward to that in this livery as seen below:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Rev3/2901-3000/rev2978-Isradecals-ISF-82/02.jpg

YoYo
September 11th, 2018, 06:47
Rain effect is unlikely to happen, at least initially, since using it disrupts the compatibility with FSX.

So both installers maybe? Pretty please :very_drunk:.
If You can for sure ;). Just idea.

Daube
September 11th, 2018, 06:57
I don't use Facebook so I cannot vote, but I would go for the second option as well.
I just saw the current poll results and I like the results so far :D

The screenshots you posted earlier are simply awesome. Photorealistic textures everywhere... unbelievable :dizzy:
Can't wait to see the final versions. :encouragement:

fsafranek
September 11th, 2018, 09:10
I'd like to see an option with the E-2C package to have the current 8-bladed props.
That opens up more modern uses since they've been standard for well over a decade now.
:ernaehrung004:

YoYo
September 11th, 2018, 10:20
I don't use Facebook so I cannot vote, but I would go for the second option as well.
I just saw the current poll results and I like the results so far :D

The screenshots you posted earlier are simply awesome. Photorealistic textures everywhere... unbelievable :dizzy:
Can't wait to see the final versions. :encouragement:

Yep, the result (till now) is good for second option ;). I can wait more for second plane.

DennyA
September 11th, 2018, 11:12
I think realistically splitting them isn't going to have a great ROI.

Unless you're planning to use this to train for a deployment in a real E-2, a few switches and dials being moved a bit her and there aren't going to affect your actual enjoyment.

And honestly, I'd think the market for a $30 C-2 is pretty small compared to the market for a $30 C-2/E-2 package. I'd love the experience of flying one of these, but realistically I'm going to buy one or the other, not both. But getting both versions for one price would be awesome.

henrystreet
September 11th, 2018, 11:17
I would vote for 2 installers.....have no interest at this time in E-2 but really want a C-2.

Sundog
September 11th, 2018, 15:51
I'd like to see an option with the E-2C package to have the current 8-bladed props.
That opens up more modern uses since they've been standard for well over a decade now.
:ernaehrung004:

I believe he said each variant (Both the C-2 and E-2) will have the four blade prop model and the eight blade prop model.

fsafranek
September 11th, 2018, 21:42
I believe he said each variant (Both the C-2 and E-2) will have the four blade prop model and the eight blade prop model.
Awesome. Thanks for the info.
:ernaehrung004:

kdfw
September 11th, 2018, 22:42
it would be nice if rxp gns530 can be placed in the vc like the modern e2c with efis: https://youtu.be/q3PjFhMklkU

as for wx radar gauge, the freeware by Roland Ifor works great in the vc: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/459050-another-radar-gauge-for-vc-window-usage/

Dino Cattaneo
September 12th, 2018, 00:29
@Sundog

fsafranek is correct - both aircraft already have both kind of props (although as visual variation only - flight model is tuned for the 8-blades version).

@kdfw

at the moment I have the old style GPS in the cockpits - all the main functions are there, I am not sure if it makes sense to change it.

as for the weather gauge, I'm trying to steer away from third party C++ gauges for a number of reasons...

@All

Preliminary results from the poll seem clear in favor of separate but more accurate cockpits... we'll see if it makes sense, as the variants would be a total of four (C-2 analog with 4 blades, C-2 digital with 8-blades, E-2 analog with 4 blades, E-2 digital with 8 blades). Going down that path means that, most likely, the E-2 will not be ready by the end of the year.

warchild
September 12th, 2018, 06:20
Wellll, I didnt take the poll ( blind as a bat and dumber than a stump these days and couldnt find it ) but i would be happy to buy two packages, even if it meant buying each a month apart from the other..

YoYo
September 16th, 2018, 09:40
Btw.


Although the poll is still open, the results are clear: most users would prefer two separate packages with more accurate cockpits. Anyway, the current C-2 and E-2 do share a lot of resources (a number of textures, most of the avionics code and the sound package) - so for a number of reasons it would make sense to keep them together in a single package. The best strategy to move forward seems to be to debug the current external models and the cockpit, so that the common parts are debugged and can be "transpanted" to other cockpit models and move from there.
Anyway, here a picture of the latest iteration of the cockpit.

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41835189_2230607276952721_2698066539445223424_o.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=65a99919567557ea5337fa7ed4909896&oe=5C35ADC7

mal998
September 18th, 2018, 09:51
For anyone who want to see what it takes to become a Greyhound pilot, check out this Smithsonian film. Although I understand the aging C-2's are being phased out in favor of the V-22 Osprey. Hate to see them go.

https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/heres-what-it-takes-to-become-a-certified-c2-a-pilot/63186

YoYo
September 18th, 2018, 10:04
Thx, nice video and nice found!

Victory103
September 18th, 2018, 11:05
Nice find, surprised she was so amazed on the cat shot, she's already done that in the T-45. I got one COD flight off the boat, sitting backwards and arms/legs come flying up on the shot. Then a slow flight back to NS Mayport since the nose gear didn't retract. When the CMV-22 comes online, so much for cat shots for pax, get'em while you can!

DennyA
September 18th, 2018, 11:22
If we're sharing videos, this has to be the hairiest E-2C landing ever... https://pilotonline.com/news/military/local/navy-human-error-to-blame-for-march-cable-break-aboard/article_c4675c54-6cdc-5882-867a-68f961145c9d.html

YoYo
September 22nd, 2018, 11:23
EFIS version - it will be also!

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42205951_2237078552972260_973599864015290368_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=105&oh=52bb40f8bb14e28074bb3c9f40f4f933&oe=5C5D4FB0

tgycgijoes
September 22nd, 2018, 15:34
Hey Dino they look great so far. I for one being a CVA veteran of 42 months with 2 different VAW's I would like to see separate packages as accurate as you can make them. Thanks for both prop versions too. :encouragement:

Dino Cattaneo
September 26th, 2018, 10:09
Quick update: external models for both the E-2 and the C-2 are now complete.
As for the cockpit, I am moving forward wih a "compromise": the base model of the cockpit will be common to all planes, but 8-bladed birds will have an EFIS as shown in the previous picture and E-2s (either 4-bladed or 8-bladed) will have digital engine instruments... This should be OK for most users, preserves a lot of the resources commonality and allows the creation of a single package. Honestly, given the commonality between the two machines, I felt like the two-package option was a rip-off (at least to some extent)... this seems a much more sound and valuable package.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63820&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63821&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63822&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63823&stc=1

YoYo
September 26th, 2018, 11:17
Great work! Cant wait for this birds! :applause:

Navy Chief
September 26th, 2018, 16:22
I would vote for 2 installers.....have no interest at this time in E-2 but really want a C-2.


I'm with you, Henry! Need a mail delivery COD! NC

Navy Chief
September 26th, 2018, 16:26
Nice find, surprised she was so amazed on the cat shot, she's already done that in the T-45. I got one COD flight off the boat, sitting backwards and arms/legs come flying up on the shot. Then a slow flight back to NS Mayport since the nose gear didn't retract. When the CMV-22 comes online, so much for cat shots for pax, get'em while you can!

Got one cat shot and ride off of the Sara during workups in 1990. Had a neck injury, so my squadron, VFA-83, sent me home. Needless to say, that cat shot didn't help my neck pain, either! Straight flight to Mayport. NC

Sundog
September 26th, 2018, 16:33
Whatever you do Dino, I'm good with. I'll be buying these as soon as they are released. Thanks for the pics, they look great. :encouragement:

simulloyd
September 26th, 2018, 17:07
Nice find, surprised she was so amazed on the cat shot, she's already done that in the T-45. I got one COD flight off the boat, sitting backwards and arms/legs come flying up on the shot. Then a slow flight back to NS Mayport since the nose gear didn't retract. When the CMV-22 comes online, so much for cat shots for pax, get'em while you can!
Ya-buddy! I got one cat shot off Kitty Hawk back in Nov 2001 flying home from deployment. I had one of the two window seats. Facing backwards and shoved into the straps was cool and rude at the same time. I think I changed modes of transportation several times that day - started on

1. LHA-5 PELELIU
2. CH-46E
3. CV-63
4. C-2
5. Boeing 767
6. Boeing 777
7. Embraer EMB-120
8. Yellow taxi cab

all in 24 hours.

Mach3DS
September 27th, 2018, 06:02
These are not my screens. But I thought it would be of interest to this crowd. E2C in DCS... Not as competition to Dino's. Just as a fan of the E2C.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1926/30011799337_7d22dddeb1_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1907/44948684831_720340a077_o.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1944/30011798027_9af067e176_o.jpg

Dino Cattaneo
September 27th, 2018, 14:57
Indeed a great model - actually it looks better than mine!
DCS is great, and its sea environment is far superior to FSX (and P3D) and the lighting is much better - and with the recent addition of the F/A-18 Hornet it will likely surpass FSX/P3D as the go-to platform for naval simulations.

Mach3DS
September 27th, 2018, 15:00
Dino, yes, I agree (not that it's better than yours!) but this wasn't meant to be a "here's a better one" just thought these looked like photographs...so wanted to share with those interested in E2C. I'm sure yours will be fantastic!

Dino Cattaneo
September 27th, 2018, 15:02
Well... I try to be objective and, truth to be told, some details are superior in the DCS model. The lighting engine does the rest ;-)

Dino Cattaneo
September 27th, 2018, 15:06
...so back to the old technology of FSX/P3D, here it is the French Navy repaint - Japan to follow in the next few days.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63835&stc=1

strykerpsg
September 27th, 2018, 15:50
Stunning detail Dino. Although I have always appreciated the role of the E-2 and its derivatives, it was never on my must have list. You, however, have changed my mind.

With regards, to the DCS snapshots, I had to do a double take as they looked absolutely stunning too. However, agree with Dino, the DCS engine is leaps and bounds more detailed but it's also a limited area to fly in.

Looking forward to your release Dino. Thanks for your work and updates.

Dino Cattaneo
September 27th, 2018, 16:10
...well, the whole world is the proper scenery at least for the C-2!

Dino Cattaneo
September 28th, 2018, 00:43
I just realized that, while I was writing the messages above, I accidentally deleted the source files of the French livery... D'OH!
It was finished...I just hope there are no blatant mistakes!

Navy Chief
September 28th, 2018, 03:36
I just realized that, while I was writing the messages above, I accidentally deleted the source files of the French livery... D'OH!
It was finished...I just hope there are no blatant mistakes!

It's our fault. We took your mind off your project! :biggrin-new: NC

Daube
September 28th, 2018, 03:46
...well, the whole world is the proper scenery at least for the C-2!

Exactly. Just yesterday evening, I was doing a multiplayer flight with my brother, and we were landing on the carrier Clemenceau just a few kilometers away from the coast of Corsica. Landing your new planes on there would be quite a blast ! I'm looking forward to them, Dino.

jmbiii
September 28th, 2018, 07:29
Dino, there's some C-2 interior shots in this video. :biggrin-new: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_4mfDwiOI

Dino Cattaneo
September 28th, 2018, 08:35
French and Japanese repaints ready...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63855&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63856&stc=1

YoYo
September 28th, 2018, 09:03
Indeed a great model - actually it looks better than mine!
DCS is great, and its sea environment is far superior to FSX (and P3D) and the lighting is much better - and with the recent addition of the F/A-18 Hornet it will likely surpass FSX/P3D as the go-to platform for naval simulations.

You can add Fresnel Lens/Ramp on 3D model and the final effect will be near the same :).

Mach3DS
September 28th, 2018, 09:24
You can add Fresnel Lens/Ramp on 3D model and the final effect will be near the same :).

You can only do that if you have the fresnel affect the the Specular only. It doesn't look anywhere near the same. The lighting and shadow are calculated differently. It can look good. But pBR is completely different way of defining the physical attributes of light interesting with various materials.

Dino Cattaneo
September 28th, 2018, 10:06
Well, my model alreasy has the fresnel ramp... thing is the lighting engine of DCS is definitely superior.
It is not a question of PBR, or not - I have tried importing my models in DCS and they look better even without PBR: daylight/shadow contrast is better, and so are ground reflections etc... the discussion gets quite technical, and off topic...but the DCS lighting engine is definitely better IMHO

Victory103
September 28th, 2018, 10:47
Dino, there's some C-2 interior shots in this video. :biggrin-new: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_4mfDwiOI

Another great one for the C-2 with updated pit: https://youtu.be/SWIbDRBdHRo

hawkdriver
September 28th, 2018, 12:06
Nice video. As a retired mil pilot, I just have to say in that landing phase, I would want my pilot not flying (PNF) to concentrate totally on whats going on (inside/outside) and not trying to get good photo shots. You need good situational awareness. Hawkdriver

YoYo
September 28th, 2018, 13:59
You can only do that if you have the fresnel affect the the Specular only. It doesn't look anywhere near the same. The lighting and shadow are calculated differently. It can look good. But pBR is completely different way of defining the physical attributes of light interesting with various materials.

Yep but combination of this (on for example Carenado models) looks like models from DCS with his innovations (for sure, "near" only):

http://i.imgur.com/hDKvMN2m.jpg (https://imgur.com/hDKvMN2)

Mach3DS
September 28th, 2018, 17:01
Yep but combination of this (on for example Carenado models) looks like models from DCS with his innovations (for sure, "near" only):

http://i.imgur.com/hDKvMN2m.jpg (https://imgur.com/hDKvMN2)

Yes, Carenado have probably the best exteriors for GA aircraft. However, they are static, and look the same...in almost all lighting. They look like they've been enameled with the finest clear coat you've ever seen. They are truly stunning! But every airplane has the same finish....other than the explicitly bare metal ones. The Specular shine is the same on every surface, and the materials use multiple Fresnel ramps and multiple custom ENVmaps for different parts of the aircraft to achieve the "look" (At least that's how it was a while back). I'm interested to see what they look like with Dynamic Reflections ON in P3D? I'm curious if it works with their aircraft? Anyone want to post a pic in another thread so that we don't hijack Dino's E2 thread? You've got me curious YoYo!

YoYo
October 19th, 2018, 07:04
Manual is ready for download (Beta 1 version)!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sd_fnNlzf5oELPuDL-2gVcwU3Mfs7wDr/view?fbclid=IwAR3zRRr1Xe8hM29LQw2rgEbx2jAE3EwK_54H Z0AlD7fTSzSpMXLVnaX0dUE

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44216999_2273605762652872_2619315908891377664_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-waw1-1.xx&oh=16fc140ed7fedf6cada025c72709a4c5&oe=5C582930

fliger747
October 22nd, 2018, 22:30
Nice development, I had a couple of my fellow aviators who flew these. The Willy Fudd project was one of my favorites for Milton, these look like a great follow on aircraft!

Dino Cattaneo
October 23rd, 2018, 03:25
For the record, the project is now OPEN to applications for Beta Testers: should you want to send yours here is how to do it:

http://indiafoxtecho.blogspot.com/2018/10/e-2c-hawkeye-c-2a-beta-release-how-to.html

Given the high number of requests, the application window will not be open for more than a few days.

expat
December 2nd, 2022, 08:09
Anyone know how to open the rear cargo door on the C-2A Greyhound?

Brian_Gladden
December 2nd, 2022, 11:42
It's tagged as door 1 in MCX so it should be Shift+E+1

expat
December 2nd, 2022, 14:20
Interesting. Shift + E + 1 opens the cockpit door but not the rear ramp. PD3v4.

paul day
December 3rd, 2022, 00:00
On the pilots for the left hand console there are controls for the rotodome and the rear ramp doors. I don't see why they wouldn't work for P3D.

Regards Paul Day.

expat
December 3rd, 2022, 01:43
That's it - thanks Paul!