Resuming work at the workshop

[gastonj]

Hi,

After the Ni-D62 Blender learning project I needed to take a step back from modeling to go about other things like playing DTG Train Simulator (lol) !
But today I'm going back to work. I picked up some pending projects, mostly the MS 225/226 and a new one the Dewoitine D500/501 later the D-510.
Now I'm getting more comfortable with Blender and I'm trying to create more detailed models. It takes time but it is a hobby and time does not matter. The eventual publication of this has no planned date(but my modeling choices, the French aviation of the 30s, quickly leads these models to the virtual shed where they will take the dust just as virtual)(lol) !


Below are some screens showing the progress of the projects. Also shown some parts, Gnome-Rhône K9 engine and Vickers-Mac type 2 machine guns (MAC stand for Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault)

The Morane Saulnier MS-225/226(Navy version)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59634&stc=1

Some parts

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59635&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59636&stc=1

The latest project Dewoitine D500/501

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59637&stc=1

The gauges, the instrumentation (all in 3D), the cockpit will conform to the real models as far as possible (no DLL, my limited skills and my documentation pretty good - thank's Huub Wink and others)
Eventually, to get your opinion I will communicate on the work !

Cheers,
JMC

[manfredc3]

Looking very promising!

[Roger]

Excellent Gaston!:applause:

[Drzook]

C'est magnifique!!! :applause:

[MDIvey]

You're work is always superb GastonJ

Matt

[blanston12]

Fantastique! Really looking forward to the D500.

[gastonj]

Oops ...I would like it to be finished already. I did not dare to face this realization which is more complicated than it looks.
Emile Dewoitine's productions are the most innovative of the time in France. The D500 was released the same year as the Boeing P26 Peashooter.
JMC

[gastonj]

Hi,

The Dewoitine D-501 is on top of my todo list ...slow progress ...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59787&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59788&stc=1

but ...i do my best! I am not sure for the wood propeller, i am looking for a profile of a steel one (Levasseur).

JMC

[gastonj]

Really more difficult than it seemed....to me!
Some rectified modeling errors, I think I'm not too far from something satisfactory.

The D500 with 2 Vickers-MAC machine guns firing through the propeller,

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59984&stc=1

and the 501 the first plane with the French Hispano Suiza (see note below) gun engine(moteur canon).

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59985&stc=1

The 510 will be realized also with different tail, landing gear and propeller.
it is only the exterior model for now!

JMC

Note : "Société Française Hispano-Suiza" ,specialized in aeronautical equipment, born as a subsidiary of the Swiss-Spanish company of the same name became considerably larger than the parent company from which it separated shortly after WWI. The French company retaining the right to use Hispano-Suiza as trademark. She belongs today to the French group Safran.

[gastonj]

Hi,

I was wrong with the engine cooler! my blueprint had an error of scale.I did certainly a mistake including the pictures in Blender. I think it seems to be okay now.


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/20/7/1526827600-start-3.jpg

I move slowly, I do the cockpit. The 3D instruments are complete even if they are presented here with raw textures.

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/20/7/1526823833-instruments2.jpg


Cheers,
JMC

[txnetcop]

Excellent work!
Ted

[blanston12]

fantastique! Very much looking forward to this one!

[warchild]

Those are looking amazing. I want that Dewotine. beautiful work :)..Thanks for sharing your progress with us. :)
Pam

[Milton Shupe]

Excellent model work throughout; thank you for sharing your progress. Great results so far. :applause:

[hairyspin]

Interesting wing on the D.500: was the different section at the wing root to stall earlier than the rest of the wing giving the pilot warning of an impending full stall?

[gastonj]

Hello,
Thank's for the interest in this model. I feel very clumsy but I do my best. No idea about the benefits of this wing feature, I was thinking about a visibility problem.

JMC

[gastonj]

Hi,

Small progress...trying textures...

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/25/5/1529663349-alu1.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/25/5/1529663349-alu1b.jpg

Quite difficult for me...

JMC

[gastonj]

Not much interest for this French model but it advances a little and maybe I'll publish it. May be! (lol)


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/2/1530639723-export-01.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/2/1530639731-export-01a.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/2/1530639744-export-01b.jpg

I am still working on metal textures.

JMC

[blanston12]

I for one am very interested and am waiting it in great anticipation!

Can't wait to fly it.

[Roger]

It looks beautiful, Gaston, so please make it available for download.

[gastonj]

It was a joke ...no matter if one guy wishes it will be available, modeling is just an hobby for me!
JM

[huub vink]

Hey Gaston,

It seems I have missed your update during my absence. I really like the shape of this Dewoitine :encouragement:, but I wonder whether they were as highly polished as your version :biggrin-new:

Cheers,
Huub

[gastonj]

Hi Huub!

You are probably right, texturing is not my cup of tea as we say in France.
I am trying to represent a D 501 of squadron II/5 Lafayette at the 1937 Zurich meeting. I guess she was very prepared to be smart (lol)!
I will give those who want it the UV mapping for the fuselage and wings to make other more relevant paintings.(2048 or 4096).

Now, she looks as those screens :

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/3/1530739219-d501-2.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/3/1530739229-d501-3.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/3/1530739237-d501-4.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/27/3/1530739207-d501-1.jpg

But, today it's a long way until she is avalaible.

JMC

[gastonj]

Hi,
After working on more realistic textures, I can say "this is the end of the beginning" ....I think someone already said that (lol) !

Big work to achieve....but some screens :

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/31/4/1533224584-d501-s3-fsx.jpg


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/31/4/1533224598-d501-s4-fsx.jpg

the first version still scheduled for the end of the year if ...

JMC

PS : I missed this one !
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/31/4/1533228377-d501-s5-fsx.jpg

[huub vink]

Although there might still be a lot of work to do, I think it already looks gorgeous. And again this is one of the aircraft I never expected to see in FSX.

Cheers,
Huub


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRH5wzCQQw

[gastonj]

Hello Huub,

It's more encouraging now that I can just relax by flying..But working on the VC is really a big work.
I had a hard time giving her a passable silhouette.

JMC

[nordmanni]

Truly marvellous work so far.

[gastonj]

Hello,

Back from hollidays! Work is 50% done. I am quite late...just a quick and dirty video from a test fly ....I am working on the CV but texturing is not complete.

One picture :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63047&stc=1

and the movie (1920x1080) here : https://youtu.be/gGZ-yY-VMCE

Cheers,
JMC

[blanston12]

Nice video! Very much looking forward to this one, its looking pretty good.

[huub vink]

Thanks for the video Gaston, great looping :biggrin-new:. It will be an interesting aircraft to fly, with the original French gauges :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

[gastonj]

Hello,
Oops ...It's really a heavy job! The CV is 65% done. Modeling French gauges of the time is a hard work that begins with a painstaking search for documentation to do something quite realistic. For example the gauge shown is the electric generator (magneto). Above this box a launch command flares because the French military aircraft of that time had no landing lights.
Everything is done in 3D and animated. But could anyone make an effect that could simulate a flare? This could be controlled by this case.
Some screens :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63228&stc=1

magneto and bomb dropper...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63229&stc=1

Fortunately Blender allows work on different layers!

Cheers,
JMC

[gastonj]

Hi,

Some news,I am overwhelmed by the problems and the number of details to take into account but but I have some progress.

First, the smoothing was quite bad...I had to improve it, that's done for now as you can see :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63517&stc=1

French gauges of this time were very specific and you have to create them from scratch like these ones :

The radio set

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63519&stc=1

and some gauges related to the weapons and fuel .

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63520&stc=1


The CV is quite done, the compressed air starter Viet and some cables remain to be positioned, some pictures :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63521&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=63523&stc=1

That's all folks!

JMC

[Roger]

Great work there Gaston:engel016:

[YoYo]

Aghh! I remember it! When I was child I had this model of D.510 in 1/72:

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/142773250855_/Heller-172-Dewoitine-D510-French-Plastic-Aircraft-Model.jpg

Nice plane, something like Ryan ST but for the one person.
Nice work :wavey:.

[magoo]

Nice plane, something like Ryan ST but for the one person.

....Ahhhh.....that'd be one heck of a Ryan ST......re-pleat with a vee-twelve engine, wing mounted machine guns, and a twenty-mil' Hispano firing through the prop hub.

......I want me one of THOSE!

[gastonj]

Hi,

Some progress but not enough to my taste. Alpha version will be delayed to november early days. Cockpit is quite finish with
right gauges (french ones of this time) at right places. some exceptions due to the lack of documentation,
but I continue looking for.
Now I am coding specific gauges and I would like the operations to be most in line with those of the time. It's very different from what we know
today, very French like, for example, the engine starting by compressed air + gas in the cylinders ignited by sparks from
a manual magneto !

Some screens (textures are subject to change) :

The cockpit (with perspective deformations due to heavy zoom)

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/41/4/1539295008-cv15.jpg

Just a flight at dusk

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/41/4/1539295077-d501-crepuscule2.jpg

before landing in your simulator, end of year...sorry!

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/41/4/1539295019-captures-127.jpg

Note that this aircraft was put into service the same year as the Boeing peashooter ...

JMC

[blanston12]

Fantastique! Its looks great and can’t wait to fly it !

[huub vink]

It really looks absolutely stunning Gaston and its always great to receive another update from you.

Before WWII nearly every country had its own technical history and traditions and approach to seal with things. Your model really is a French as French can be. I assume that even the throttle will work the "wrong way" around :biggrin-new:.

When we look at this model now, we see an aircraft which was obsolete when WWII started. I guess that's the way our brains work. But when it was released it must have been an absolute sensation. To put things in perspective; this Dewoitine was introduced already two years before the British introduced the Gloster Gladiator as their new front line fighter........... And it had its first flight even long before the Germans flew their Heinkel He.51 for the first time.

Again, thanks for the update and as always really looking forward to fly it :encouragement:

Huub

[gastonj]

Hello,

The throttle works the wrong way of course!

Just a screen more accurate of the CV :

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/41/5/1539340889-cv12s.jpg

Compressed air starter and radio set are more visible.

JMC

[huub vink]

Impressive work! I know I'm only repeating myself, but I'm really impressed by the effort you put in this model :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

[manfredc3]

Looking great. You are making the wait worthwhile.

[thunderstreak]

Wow, great looking model of a very unique machine!
Looking forward to the release of this one for sure!

:icon30:

[gastonj]

Hi,

Now it's time to finalize the alpha version 3D, code, and flight model by JP Bourgeois.

Just a look at what is done.

First engine effect at hight power :

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/43/5/1540546859-pete-des-flammes.jpg


Maybe be the final state of the CV

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/43/5/1540546845-cockpit.jpg

and last a video showing the cold and dark start process with the Viet air compressed engine starter. It's a full HD preliminary video that you can get here (https://youtu.be/9zBgFqwjIww) !

JMC

[hertzie]

That cold start really IS something... And ALL is working....

Man, you are terriffic!!

Hat's off,

hertzie.

[blanston12]

Looking Fantastique! I can already see this is going to be a fun aircraft, waiting in great anticipation.

[alain0568]

Bonjour Gaston,

-Vraiment superbe! :applause::applause::applause:


Alain
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[gribouil]

Terrible ce cockpit!!!
Quel travail... :applause::applause::applause:

[b52bob]

This era is not my cup of tea but I am intrigued by this airplane. It’s a real looker and such a fantastic job modeling it. Will get this for sure.

you are a master craftsman!

[gastonj]

Hi,
The beta version is in test. If all goes well, an output version 0.9 for the end of the month. Two new textures :

One French Navy

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/45/6/1541808085-d501-3c3.jpg

And the third, French Air Force "Cigognes"

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64628&stc=1

JMC

[gastonj]

Hello,

Just a video showing the actual state of the flight model.
The model passes all the figures of aerobatics but it is more difficult to master than a Cessna 172 (lol)

This is where it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OheI6Zr4Hqw&t=104s

JMC

[blanston12]

Looks amazing! But also sad that I am not flying her right now.

Awaiting her release with great anticipation.

[Pips]

Very impressive indeed Sir. :)

Luv the look of the Dewoitine, and can't wait to fly it. It just looks right.

[gastonj]

Hello,

The Dewoitine D510 is almost finished.
It is very similar to the D501 but there are some notable differences: the landing gear is different, the tail is different,
the radiator is larger with seven cooling flaps instead of six for the D501, the propeller is tripale and especially the engine is 200 hp
more than the 501. All this makes a quite power plane with a speed greater than 400 km / h.
the flight model remains to be finalized.
Some screens ...

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/02/4/1547141666-d510.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/02/4/1547141687-d510-01.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/02/4/1547141717-d510-04.jpg


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/02/4/1547141747-d510-03.jpg


It is a plane of the squadron SPA 94 which is represented which I hope that the emblem, considering my age, is not premonitory (lol)!

JMC

[blanston12]

Looks Great Jean!

I certainly have been enjoying the 501 so the 510 will be a welcome addition to the hanger.

[gastonj]

Hello,

We are testing the flight model which is different from that of the D501. Some gauges are more accurate because of new documentation found.
Wind cockpit sound is different.
When the D510 is released, the D501 will be updated to version 1. The D500 will not be released.
I am tired of this series. I want to move on and finish what is in progress and discussed at the beginning of this topic.

JMC

[huub vink]

Looks great JMC! and I really appreciate you are doing the D.510 as well. It provides quite some repaint possibilities........
One minor remark, based on your screenshots I think the current prop blur only shows 2 propeller blades.

And thanks for sharing your talent with us :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

[gastonj]

Looks great JMC! and I really appreciate you are doing the D.510 as well. It provides quite some repaint possibilities........
One minor remark, based on your screenshots I think the current prop blur only shows 2 propeller blades.

And thanks for sharing your talent with us :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

Thank's....you are right! Sorry for the mistake ! I will change this later, the packaging is done for now.
The flight model is quite different, you get now 400km/h quickly.
I am a poor painter, so only one paint SPA 94 "La mort qui fauche" is done but i can give the mapping of fuselage and wings '2048x2048', not really a paintkit but usable jointly with MCX (not compatible with D501) to do some paints.

JMC

[gastonj]

Put on hold until the end of the development of the D500 series, the work resumes on the MS225, end expected for Christmas (lol).

3 screens...

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/35/7/1567336810-225.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/35/7/1567336810-225-01.jpg

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/35/7/1567336810-225-02.jpg

Difficult work of documentation, the cockpit will be 90% realistic or more, I hope ...

JMC