JF: Stinson L-5 Sentinel released

[YoYo]

Hi! :wiggle:
AH and JF released L-5:

https://www.justflight.com/product/stinson-l5-sentinel

https://dxhb0it26is40.cloudfront.net/productimages/stinson-l5-sentinel_37_ss_l_180109143727.jpg

[Timmy74]

Very nice indeed! I wonder if AH would consider doing their version of a O-1 Bird Dog for FSX/FSX S/P3D ALL versions...?

....wink wink Bazzar!! LOL!

[Roger]

Looks like a must have for me:applause:

[jeansy]

Very nice indeed! I wonder if AH would consider doing their version of a O-1 Bird Dog for FSX/FSX S/P3D ALL versions...?

....wink wink Bazzar!! LOL!

TIMMY

Flight Simulator X (Acceleration, Gold or Steam Edition required) & P3D v1/v2/v3/v4

[ksheadley]

A very nice offering indeed. I only had time for a quick trip around the patch before work, but it should provide plenty of fun exploring the far away wilderness and off airport excursions.





In regards to an O-1 Bird dog, Blackbox sim has a version for all platforms that includes wheel, tundra, float, and amphib.

[speedy70]

Again a shame that a beautiful model is spoiled by lack of attention to detail and beta testing.

The fuel tank selector quadrant has both of the bottom quadrants labelled "both off" instead of the left one reading "both on".

There appears to be an unfinished lights configuration in the aircraft.cfg file and indeed I cannot get any lights to work apart from the vc light.

I have reported this to Just Flight.I am very disappointed that these lack of beta testing faults keep occuring between aeroplane heaven and just flight.It is time it was rectified once and for all.

Regards Chris

[magoo]

Regarding the fuel selector, one may wish to check out images of the wartime panel:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Stinson-L-5-Sentinel/1395133/L

[falcon409]

Regarding the fuel selector, one may wish to check out images of the wartime panel:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Stinson-L-5-Sentinel/1395133/L
Yes, I located 5 cockpit shots of various L-5's in each one the labeling is the same (left On-Right on at the top. . .Bottom, both are labeled "Both Off).

[txnetcop]

What a beauty...NICE!
Ted

[speedy70]

Magoo and Falcon.Yes that is as maybe, but the flying instructions with the just Flight model says that the left bottom position is for "both on" which indeed it is, and I have been flying the aircraft with the tank selector on the left hand "both off" position!!!!!!

Cheers Chris

[Roger]

I love it! all lights working in my case and the modelling is superb!

My only criticism is the apparent size of the nav and position lights are way too big and look a bit too much like gold fish bowls. So if they could be reduced in size I would be 100% happy.

[Fireball6]

I love it! all lights working in my case and the modelling is superb!

My only criticism is the apparent size of the nav and position lights are way too big and look a bit too much like gold fish bowls. So if they could be reduced in size I would be 100% happy.

+1 - agree 100 % with you Roger - great fun to fly this bird

Kind regards

Dirk

[binarkansas]

I've been anxiously awaiting the release of the Stinson. I purchased it this morning and have been flying about a half hour total now. It really exceeds my expectations. I like it an enormous amount. I wish to congratulate everyone involved in it's design and construction. I have one nagging question and it might be because I'm rather dense sometime, but does the thing not have a fuel quantity indicator? I have looked and can't find one, if I am simply overlooking it I'd appreciate someone pointing it out. I know the checklist says to put the fuel tank selector control to the fullest tank, but how am I supposed to know without leaving opening the Aircraft control and using the MS fuel and payload controls. I might someday fly the plane long enough to run out of fuel..........Am I the only one who cannot find the fuel gauge.

I continue to be a happy customer of Just Flight and AH models.

[magoo]

Magoo and Falcon.Yes that is as maybe, but the flying instructions with the just Flight model says that the left bottom position is for "both on" which indeed it is, and I have been flying the aircraft with the tank selector on the left hand "both off" position!!!!!!

Cheers Chris

LOL...!!! That's really interesting!

Maybe that's something only known to experienced L-5 pilots. Kind of like the secret handshake that gets you into an exclusive club, only in this case it's the secret fuel tank selection......

[speedy70]

Roger you say all lights working,I am using FSXA are you using P3d.

If so could you send me the lights section from the aircraft.cfg file.

Cheers Chris

[Rudyjo]

Very nice indeed! I wonder if AH would consider doing their version of a O-1 Bird Dog for FSX/FSX S/P3D ALL versions...?

....wink wink Bazzar!! LOL!

I have always enjoyed the Sibwings Birddog, it's too bad they don't seem to be in business anymore. In the year before they closed up, they promised to make a "Tundra" model of the plane, they never got around to it. As someone who prefers Bush flying in Alaska, it would have made a good plane even better.
It's hard to tell from the pictures, are the tires on this Stinson larger than what would be considered "Normal"?

[Roger]

Roger you say all lights working,I am using FSXA are you using P3d.

If so could you send me the lights section from the aircraft.cfg file.

Cheers Chris

Hi Chris, I'm using FsXA Dx10.

[Ferry_vO]

Last beta I checked, all lights worked fine.. FsX:Steam in Dx9 mode.

[speedy70]

Could one of you Ferry or Roger send me your Aircraft.cfg please.

Cheers Chris

[Timmy74]

TIMMY

Flight Simulator X (Acceleration, Gold or Steam Edition required) & P3D v1/v2/v3/v4

My bad.. I thought SibWings Bird Dog did not work in P3Dv4..!?

[YoYo]

My bad.. I thought SibWings Bird Dog did not work in P3Dv4..!?

You have right, SibWings never did update of O-1 for 64bits or for any P3Dv1-3.
It's a misunderstanding I suppose.

[ksheadley]

Sibwings does not, but black box simulations has a version of the bird dog for all platforms.

[strykerpsg]

Sibwings does not, but black box simulations has a version of the bird dog for all platforms.

I looked at the Sibwings Blackbox option, it really pales in comparison to this new Stinson. In my opinion, it just looks like an FS9 portover to FSX, ported over to P3D. It just looks very dated indeed, at least from the screenshots shown on their site. I would love to be wrong, but suspect this newer version, though not an O-1, is as close as we can get.

Apologies to Sibwings, yours does indeed look rather nice. I got confused between Blackbox and Sibwings. However, to avoid additional darts my way, I acknowledge many of you will disagree with my opinion and I should have just refrained from mine, so apologies overall for my injection.

[dvj]

I looked at the Sibwings option, it really pales in comparison to this new Stinson. In my opinion, it just looks like an FS9 portover to FSX, ported over to P3D. It just looks very dated indeed, at least from the screenshots shown on their site. I would love to be wrong, but suspect this newer version, though not an O-1, is as close as we can get.

Could not disagree with you more on that point. The Sibwings is a different aircraft and has a lovely VC and very nice exterior modeling. But it's horses of courses. ;-)

[speedy70]

I will second that, the Sibwings birddog is a fantastic model as in fact are all sibwings products.

You obviously never owned or flew the aircraft so really you are not in a position to pass an opinion in fact you seem to be passing an opinion based on a picture not a flight.

Cheers Chris

[jeansy]

I looked at the Sibwings option, it really pales in comparison to this new Stinson. In my opinion, it just looks like an FS9 portover to FSX, ported over to P3D. It just looks very dated indeed, at least from the screenshots shown on their site. I would love to be wrong, but suspect this newer version, though not an O-1, is as close as we can get.

far from it matt, like their AN2 there was an up roar that did didnt work in 64bit, my time flying in could be measured in months not hours, it was a work art with all the different variants, it was damn shame that they folded and didnt convert it to 64bit, however like their an2 it hasnt been ruled out a future revisit

And flight replicas have a great L-4 as well

[strykerpsg]

Could not disagree with you more on that point. The Sibwings is a different aircraft and has a lovely VC and very nice exterior modeling. But it's horses of courses. ;-)


I will second that, the Sibwings birddog is a fantastic model as in fact are all sibwings products.

You obviously never owned or flew the aircraft so really you are not in a position to pass an opinion in fact you seem to be passing an opinion based on a picture not a flight.

Cheers Chris


far from it matt, like their AN2 there was an up roar that did didnt work in 64bit, my time flying in could be measured in months not hours, it was a work art with all the different variants, it was damn shame that they folded and didnt convert it to 64bit, however like their an2 it hasnt been ruled out a future revisit

And flight replicas have a great L-4 as well

Guys, you are right in that I do not own the plane. I am simply stating my opinion, as noted in my reply, that the screenshots on their website do not do it justice, in my opinion. From a buyers perspective, viewing the newly released L5 screenshots versus what Sibwings has on their website, I would vote for the nicer looking released JF model. As I also stated, I might be wrong, but it is my opinion just based on what I saw from their site. I am glad they (Sibwings) has a robust group of fans supporting their product. I may give her a look over again, as I too would love to have an O-1 to just fly low and slow with, over the beautiful Orbx add ons.

Thanks all for the candid replies.

[jeansy]

Guys, you are right in that I do not own the plane. I am simply stating my opinion, as noted in my reply, that the screenshots on their website do not do it justice, in my opinion. From a buyers perspective, viewing the newly released L5 screenshots versus what Sibwings has on their website, I would vote for the nicer looking released JF model. As I also stated, I might be wrong, but it is my opinion just based on what I saw from their site. I am glad they (Sibwings) has a robust group of fans supporting their product. I may give her a look over again, as I too would love to have an O-1 to just fly low and slow with, over the beautiful Orbx add ons.

Thanks all for the candid replies.

If you are using 64bit, i wouldnt their copyright protection is 32bit

[strykerpsg]

Apologies to Sibwings, yours does indeed look rather nice. I got confused between Blackbox and Sibwings. However, to avoid additional darts my way, I acknowledge many of you will disagree with my opinion and I should have just refrained from mine, so apologies overall for my injection.

Ksheadley, thank you for the PM and recommendation. I appreciate the message and intent.

[Roger]

Just a shot I quite liked:

https://images2.imgbox.com/0e/7e/df16WhWv_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/df16WhWv)

[bazzar]

Nice shot Rog.

You'll be wondering where the fuel gauges are. So did I. I've now found them. They are buried in the wingroot match ribs. So a quick fix patch is on the way with two shiny new mechanical float gauges so you can put your dipsticks away.:engel016:

[AussieMan]

Nice shot Rog.

You'll be wondering where the fuel gauges are. So did I. I've now found them. They are buried in the wingroot match ribs. So a quick fix patch is on the way with two shiny new mechanical float gauges so you can put your dipsticks away.:engel016:

Knew they were there from the start Bazz. One of the first things I looked in my cockpit tour during testing. They are similar to the Piper Cub in location.

[binarkansas]

Nice shot Rog.

You'll be wondering where the fuel gauges are. So did I. I've now found them. They are buried in the wingroot match ribs. So a quick fix patch is on the way with two shiny new mechanical float gauges so you can put your dipsticks away.:engel016:

Great news about a fix to show fuel gauges.

[cavaricooper]

It's been a while... and I'd ask in the Prepar3d v4 forum, but the readership there is minimal... how does she FLY? I would very much appreciate a few detailed reports, as the last couple of AH releases have left me underwhelmed. The graphics are wonderful, but there are a couple of flight details with the Beaver (late approach and initial TO roll) I still cannot reconcile myself with. I have been waiting for the Stinson, so I am hopeful she's a great platform....

Ta- C

[binarkansas]

It's been a while... and I'd ask in the Prepar3d v4 forum, but the readership there is minimal... how does she FLY? I would very much appreciate a few detailed reports, as the last couple of AH releases have left me underwhelmed. The graphics are wonderful, but there are a couple of flight details with the Beaver (late approach and initial TO roll) I still cannot reconcile myself with. I have been waiting for the Stinson, so I am hopeful she's a great platform....

Ta- C

OK, I purchased the L5 as soon as it was available. I've flown it a couple of hours at least. I am not a noted reviewer. I consider A2A with accusim the tops when it comes to realistic flying qualities and while I do enjoy them greatly, a lot of the time I just want to jump in and fly without worrying about any of the real world considerations of ownership. I've never flown in a real L5. While I do have a lot of hours in both Champs and Super Cubs, I've never flown any small aircraft that has 190 horsepower. That's the base from which I say the L5 flies great. It will take off in maybe 500 ft and if you watch your speed, approach and touchdown angle, also land very short. I mention the touchdown angle because the approach is rather steep with full flaps and if the plane touches down without a nice flare at the end it will nose over.........which is probably accurate to the full size. It also will cruise at near 150 mph with reasonable MP and RPM levels. I don't believe that is real world accurate, but is fun in that you can use for flights other than putt putting around the airfield. I wish the pilots didn't look like they'd just jumped out of their Mustang and got into the L5 and I'm looking forward to the upcoming fix for the absent fuel gauges. So far it is one my more pleasant purchases. I recommend it to anyone who likes small GA type aircraft. I'm hoping someone will offer some repaints for the model, it is well worth the effort.

[cavaricooper]

Many thanks binarkansas! If there are others here who have accumulated time in this L-5, please chime in.... TIA!

C

[WarHorse47]

I have it for FSXA. It's nice, but not spectacular.

Exterior model and textures are great. Interior textures and sounds are good, too. It's easy to fly, and has the typical features provided by JF such as a Nav1 and ADF settings.

I've taken several flights in each of the textures provided. Takeoff is almost STOL as little runway was used. The view is spectacular, especially at night. The L-5 is nice for the casual flight.

Only feature I would ask for is a separate command for removing the student and instructor individually. In order to remove them from view you have to use the cold & dark switch. Also, it looks funny if you open the doors or windows then secure the aircraft. Minor stuff that doesn't pertain to actually flight.

[THibben]

I am having a problem with the elevator trim where it won't stop moving. I can trim it to a spot I want but when I release, it just goes back to -20.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Other than this, it is simply great.

Thanks in advance,

Tom

[cavaricooper]

Tom-

I would guess you have a keystroke mapped to something, sending the command... have you checked your assignments?

HTH- C

PS- if there are any other PIREPs re. slow flight behavior, 3 point ability, and tail behavior on the take-off roll, I’d be obliged.... Ta!

[THibben]

I just checked all of my keystrokes and couldn't find anything.

Really frustrating. I just uninstalled and will try again.

Tom

[cavaricooper]

Tom-

Elevator trim DOWN is Num Pad 7.... Elevator trim UP is Num Pad 1... that or some conflict in FSUIPC is your issue...

HTH- C

[THibben]

Thanks C, I will work on it again today.

Tom

[bazzar]

Trim will not respond if also, of course, you have maybe left autopilot on.:engel016:

[ZsoltB]

Update out!

[THibben]

I installed the update and the problem I was having is gone. It fly's just great.

Tom

[Crusader]

I installed the update and the problem I was having is gone. It fly's just great.

Tom

Do we just re-download the aircraft to get the update ?

Rich

[Crusader]

Do we just re-download the aircraft to get the update ?

Rich

Edit :


Just noticed install exe file is ' 101 " now so all is well now . Love this aircraft . Very fun to fly .

[THibben]

Do we just re-download the aircraft to get the update ?

Rich

That is the way I did it.

Tom

[bazzar]

Good to hear that you got it sorted Tom.:engel016: