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Roger
December 8th, 2017, 13:30
Well I have been lucky enough to be given a preview of Nigel's Avro Tutor and variants. These are the Fs9 models in FsX Dx10, but Nigel is working on FsX native versions. They are beautiful...

https://images2.imgbox.com/fb/e5/r7pBCZMH_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/r7pBCZMH)

https://images2.imgbox.com/df/be/YoJLC4Bc_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/YoJLC4Bc)

https://images2.imgbox.com/bd/fd/ljtNcWHh_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/ljtNcWHh)

https://images2.imgbox.com/f5/bb/RKfksSqA_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/RKfksSqA)

Roger
December 8th, 2017, 13:31
Some more:

https://images2.imgbox.com/5b/ad/ow6hQe8S_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/ow6hQe8S)

https://images2.imgbox.com/fa/88/l2t6fpBt_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/l2t6fpBt)

https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/d9/TBJILsbI_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/TBJILsbI)

https://images2.imgbox.com/c2/be/bujadbkk_o.jpg (http://imgbox.com/bujadbkk)

IFlySWA
December 8th, 2017, 13:58
:jawdrop:

Brian

Naismith
December 8th, 2017, 14:34
I agree, the models are exceptional.

TuFun
December 8th, 2017, 14:35
My word Nigel... she's beautiful!!!

PeteHam
December 8th, 2017, 15:05
I was also fortunate to be able to test fly these in FS9 , absolutely magnificent models and sounds. :applause: :applause:

Pete.

cavaricooper
December 8th, 2017, 15:13
Has any of the team tried them in Prepar3d v 4.1? They look marvelous!

Ta!

C

Duckie
December 8th, 2017, 15:18
Nigel! You ole dog! Nice piece of virtual hardware. :biggrin-new::encouragement::encouragement:

Milton Shupe
December 8th, 2017, 15:44
Has any of the team tried them in Prepar3d v 4.1? They look marvelous!

Ta!

C

Not to my knowledge, but the FSX native versions should be fine there.

Bradburger
December 8th, 2017, 16:14
Just to reiterate.

WOW!

:applause::jump:

Cheers

Paul

Anthin
December 8th, 2017, 16:28
+10 with a stream of medals.
Beautiful.

Anthin.:applause:

Sundog
December 8th, 2017, 17:05
Truly amazing work. Well done Nigel.

jamminjames
December 8th, 2017, 17:48
GOODNESS! Amazing, can't wait for this baby........

Seahawk72s
December 8th, 2017, 18:20
With these models and from the other thread, the aircraft with floats, the night lighting and the Lewis gun observers, I've lost count on the number of models.
A phenomenal effort....:applause:


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/100633-As-the-nature-of-things-progress/page4?highlight=Avro+Tutor

(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/100633-As-the-nature-of-things-progress/page4?highlight=Avro+Tutor)

Javis
December 8th, 2017, 22:52
Seriously gorgeous and mouthwatering !! :applause:

Thanks for the HU, Roger ! And the FS9 link, Seahawk !

Re FSX ( aka P3Dv4..;-) will the Bounty scenery be available too ?

Truly made my day news ! :encouragement:

cheers,
jan

Cees Donker
December 8th, 2017, 23:34
What a great looking plane! Amazing! I had no idea this was in the making!

:applause::applause::applause:

Cees

DaveWG
December 9th, 2017, 01:20
Wow, absolutely stunning looking model. :applause:

elmoslack
December 9th, 2017, 04:53
I was beginning to get a bit jaded with FSX freeware vintage aircraft but my faith has been restored on seeing this. Now I'm actually looking forward to something. Bravo, she's puurrdy:applause:

nigel richards
December 9th, 2017, 07:49
Many thanks, Roger - really awesome screenshots too. :-)

Many thanks to old friends and new, for much appreciated support for what is now the culmination of 2 years' work.

A team of good folk are now busy with initial testing of the 4 main models: AVRO 621 (Mongoose engine), AVRO 621 Tutor (Armstrong Siddeley Lynx), AVRO 626 Prefect (Armstrong Siddeley Cheetah), and AVRO - PWS-18 (Wright J-5).

As soon as we iron out issues here, we'll do the same with the float variants, then hopefully move on to proper beta testing.

I must pay very special thanks to Milton Shupe, for going way beyond the kindness of a dear Friend and investing what must have been many hours of coaxing me over the initial hurdles.

And thanks, Pete Ham - that very special type of Real World biplane Friend, who is always ready with coffee and spiritual sustenance when you need it most.

Ferry_vO
December 9th, 2017, 07:55
Stunning! :applause:

hertzie
December 9th, 2017, 08:07
Awesome models!! Can't wait to fly them in FS9.

hertzie

magoo
December 9th, 2017, 14:56
It's a Master Thesis, a Masterwork. Simply a beautiful creation in every way, Nigel.

PeteHam
December 9th, 2017, 19:03
I mean to say .... a round engine, tail wheel, open cockpit biplane ..... it doesn't get any better. :applause: :applause:

Mind you I am a wee bit biased :jump: :jump:

Pete.

cavaricooper
December 10th, 2017, 05:21
Not to my knowledge, but the FSX native versions should be fine there.

Now THAT'S GREAT NEWS... thanks Uncle Miltie!

C

manfredc3
December 10th, 2017, 19:59
Now this is a beauty I would love to have in my FSX/P3Dv4 hangar

MrZippy
December 11th, 2017, 04:37
Wow! Nuttin' better than some exposed jugs! :encouragement: On my list!:applause:

nigel richards
December 13th, 2017, 07:10
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/100633-As-the-nature-of-things-progress/page6

ChipShop
December 29th, 2017, 20:45
Certainly a ‘must have’ for my hangar, jolly glad to see K3241 from the Shuttleworth Collection has been included!
Looking forward to hearing ‘sound department’ boffins come up with!
Excellent work indeed, well done!
ChipShop :encouragement:

nigel richards
December 29th, 2017, 23:05
ChipShop:

Yes Sir! :-)
The iconic K3241 from the Shuttleworth Collection (CFS aerobatic team) livery, as well as the earlier all-yellow version.


The engine shop have three custom soundsets ready-fitted for the series - should be plenty of beef to keep you busy, Sir. :encouragement:

1. Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IV / (7 cylinder Radial).

2. Armstrong Siddeley Mongoose. (5 cylinder radial)

3. Wright J-5 Whirlwind. (9 cylinder radial)

MZee1960
March 8th, 2018, 11:44
Looking forward to flying these beauties in FSX ! :applause:

Willy
March 8th, 2018, 11:53
I've been doing some online testing on the 621 in FSX SE and I love it. I recently bought the Alabeo WACO, but haven't hardly flown it as the Avro is just to nice to put back in the hanger.

IFlySWA
March 8th, 2018, 12:23
Can't wait to download this beauty. The screenies have been amazing. :jump:

Brian

thunderstreak
March 8th, 2018, 14:55
Wow, stunning aircraft!

MZee1960
June 13th, 2018, 17:32
Please, can someone provide any updates on this wonderful project ?

speedy70
June 13th, 2018, 17:39
Join the club!!!!

Cheers Chris

Cirrus N210MS
June 13th, 2018, 17:58
O YEAH Now thats what i am Talking about My Hand is ready for it

Flyboy208
June 13th, 2018, 18:30
I am completely certain that when Nigel's efforts make this package available to us FSX users it will be well worth the wait ! Mike :wiggle:

Javis
November 1st, 2018, 01:32
To be honest, i'm on P3Dv4 only, really... but i come inhere almost everyday hoping for a hint of news about Nigel's amazing Tutor model.

No news is good news as they say but i just thought i'd bump this up, who knows... :bump:

So, does anybody know anything about the progress of Nigel's Tutor project ??....

I mean, according to the screenies it sure is one of the most beautiful and gorgeous looking biplanes ever seen in a flightsim, isn't it.

Best Regards,
A righteous renegade waiting for his tutor
:)

huub vink
November 1st, 2018, 02:46
Hi Jan,

Nigel has been absent for a few months already. Which is not really uncommon for him. So either real work issues are keeping him busy, or perhaps he is working night and day to finish the large amount models he still wants to do in this life.

A few days ago I wrote him an e-mail, but he didn't respond on that.

I think patience is the key word here once more...........

Cheers,
Huub

spokes2112
November 1st, 2018, 03:48
+1 to Hubb's response. Occasionally Nigel goes completely off the grid. (starting to worry a bit myself)
Once he gets back it should be just a short while before released.
It has been tested in Pv4 and works perfectly. Available for FSX too!
She is a beauty for sure!

Javis
November 1st, 2018, 07:53
Thanks, gents !

Actually, while composing my post i thought i was replying to the huge Tutor thread in the FS2002/2004 forum... I must be going off my rocker about this enchanting lady... :topsy_turvy:

Bummer that Nigel didn't respond to your email, Huub, it would be good to know if he's alright in the first place.

But great news that it works perfectly in P3Dv4, thanks Spokes ! ( if that would've not been the case i would've seriously reinstalled either FS2002 or FS9 just to see this beauty come rolling out of my hangar ! :-) In any case, i'm very glad NOT to read that the project has been scrapped.

As you say, sure, patience is the word and i still have a lot in store when it comes to that. Besides, i think it's part of this eccentric hobby to actually enjoy waiting for the release of a specific new model in the pipeline. Build up the tension so to speak. (not to say foreplay.. )

Thanks again, guys ! Fingers crossed ! :eagerness:

Cheers,
Jan

Milton Shupe
November 1st, 2018, 10:10
I wrote to Nigel yesterday. I know he is off grid (and battery system is down) so he will likely not show up until the weekend for responses.

Javis
November 2nd, 2018, 02:59
Thanks Milton ! ( he did not respond yet, did he ?..)

What exactly does 'off the grid' mean ?.. No power at all ?.. ( i understand Nigel lives in Greece ?..)

I'll leave i tat that for nowe, harrd to typpe withj yopur finngers crossded. :)

zswobbie1
November 2nd, 2018, 03:50
Off the grid can be that he is 'hiding' or he has decided to have a break from everything, including us, for whatever reason he has decided.

Milton Shupe
November 2nd, 2018, 04:17
Thanks Milton ! ( he did not respond yet, did he ?..)

What exactly does 'off the grid' mean ?.. No power at all ?.. ( i understand Nigel lives in Greece ?..)

I'll leave i tat that for nowe, harrd to typpe withj yopur finngers crossded. :)

LOL Jan.

Off the grid means he has no electrical (or other utility) service connected to his home. He lives off the land.

He has a solar system but he mentioned back in June that he has battery issues with that system so he likely has no power whatsoever there. He does have access to use his computer on the weekends.

Naismith
November 2nd, 2018, 11:11
Sometimes, don't you just wish you could switch off like that? :biggrin-new:

falcon409
November 6th, 2018, 03:31
Nigel showed up on my Messenger, so maybe he’s now able to log in and speak to where this beauty is in the development.

Cees Donker
November 6th, 2018, 06:31
I got the same message....

Cees

Javis
November 6th, 2018, 17:44
Good news! Thanks, gents, keep us posted, ok !?

And thanks for explaining 'off the grid', Milton ! Hopefully he will be reconnected soon.

I don't know why, i have hangars full of beautifully crafted virtual aeroplanes, but i just can't wait to get my dirty hands on this ever so enchanting Tutor beauty that Nigel has created. ( maybe it's because i came to Duxford 3 times all the way from Holland, only to see the show cancelled 3 times because of the weather. One time we arrived at the airfield and we heared the cancel message thru the speaker system while a lonesome, yellow Avro Tutor came in to land just before the heavenly floodgates were opened. I shall never forget that sight... and that feeling.. ;-)

MZee1960
January 7th, 2019, 11:56
These beauties are apparently coming soon to an airstrip near you : http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/114096-nigel-richards?p=1169705&viewfull=1#post1169705

:applause:
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/114096-nigel-richards?p=1169705&viewfull=1#post1169705)

IFlySWA
January 7th, 2019, 12:05
That's wonderful news! :jump:

Brian

downwind
January 7th, 2019, 12:35
It is great news that this project is coming to fruition, because I can testify that she is enchanting to look at and to fly.

Javis
January 8th, 2019, 00:27
Best news of the year !! :mixed-smiley-010: ( although i don't have FS9 nore FSX anymore. fingers crossed if it will ever fly in P3Dv4.... ;-)

nigel richards
January 8th, 2019, 01:31
Greetings and a very Happy New Year to all, Gentlemen!!!

Still off-grid, but with access to my files when visiting my daughter.

Yup. Off-grid life has its downside as well as the benefits of self-sufficiency, tranquility and freedom.

So, I'll shortly release the Tutor series to the standards of the last and final beta test last year.
The releases will include Extra liveries not involved during testing, so that should be something to look forward to, even for what I can only describe as a phenomenal team of highly enthusiastic and gracious team of people.

The initial releases will be high standard fs9/ FSX portovers, with native FSX verions still on the menu. For obvious reasons I cannot commit to time lines regarding the natives until we have the electricity issues at the homestead sorted out.

spokes2112
January 8th, 2019, 04:47
Great news Nigel!
Happy New Year to you too!

511Flyer
January 8th, 2019, 04:48
Kalimera Nigel. My wife and I just love Greece, and have holidayed to many of the islands over 30 years or more. Kefalonia is our favourite.

Off grid in Greece? I'd gladly swap that for my life in suburban Surrey.


:encouragement:

nigel richards
January 8th, 2019, 07:12
Great news Nigel!
Happy New Year to you too!

The great news for me Roman, is having buddies like you, my friend.
You blessed the AVROs with your Special brand of magic, as folk will see and appreciate very soon.

Thank YOU, Roman! :ernaehrung004:

nigel richards
January 8th, 2019, 07:32
Kalimera Nigel. My wife and I just love Greece, and have holidayed to many of the islands over 30 years or more. Kefalonia is our favourite.

Off grid in Greece? I'd gladly swap that for my life in suburban Surrey.


:encouragement:

Hey! Kalimera 511Flyer.
Your good wife and yourself have extremely excellent taste, Sir.

Kefalonia is one of our favourite haunts...could wax lyrical about the breathtaking colours and water clarity which as you well know HAS to be seen to be believed.

Ummmm, how about time-sharing? I'm sure Surrey wouldn't be bad for a reliable source of electricity and productivity. LOL.

Seriously; somewhat bleak at our place this time of the year...well, bleak but cosy...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66320&stc=1 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66321&stc=1 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66322&stc=1

511Flyer
January 8th, 2019, 10:53
The house is a fantastic work in progress Nigel. What an absolutely beautiful setting.

Kalinita.

spokes2112
January 8th, 2019, 12:26
The great news for me Roman, is having buddies like you, my friend.
You blessed the AVROs with your Special brand of magic, as folk will see and appreciate very soon.

Thank YOU, Roman! :ernaehrung004:

Very kind of you Nigel... Thanks!
And all of us will soon be blessed with your (and other team members) fantastic work too!
A pleasure hearing from you :wavey: - if only for a while.. :biggrin-new: All good. :greece:

SSI01
January 8th, 2019, 13:37
Was this aircraft a sort of "British Stearman?" It resembles a Stearman for sure. It looks like it was a handful for a trainee; given the apparent size and power differences between this and a Tiger Moth, were they contemporaries or was it decided a Tiger Moth was better suited to meeting the needs of novice pilot instruction?

nigel richards
January 9th, 2019, 08:25
The house is a fantastic work in progress Nigel. What an absolutely beautiful setting.

Kalinita.

Kalispera 511Flyer,

Thanks matey, yup; the House is wip under Permanent beta testing. :-)

When I'm not pushing and painting polys into aeronautical facsimilies, you'll generally catch me fitting stones together...or scratching m'head in some nearby dry stream bed looking for the bit I don't have... :dizzy:

nigel richards
January 9th, 2019, 08:31
Very kind of you Nigel... Thanks!
And all of us will soon be blessed with your (and other team members) fantastic work too!
A pleasure hearing from you :wavey: - if only for a while.. All good.

The 'Thanks' are all mine, Roman!!!

Oh Man!!! Every time I wind up that magneto boost handle and pull that slat/slot lever... :love_heart::love_heart::love_heart:

nigel richards
January 9th, 2019, 08:49
Was this aircraft a sort of "British Stearman?" It resembles a Stearman for sure. It looks like it was a handful for a trainee; given the apparent size and power differences between this and a Tiger Moth, were they contemporaries or was it decided a Tiger Moth was better suited to meeting the needs of novice pilot instruction?

That's more or less a fair assessment, SS101. :-)

Despite the AVRO's size/power, she was probably more stable than the Tiger Moth. Probably too stable to be a truly good teacher of airmen, often described as a 'Gentleman's Aircraft'. She was no slouch at aerobatics however, and was used in 2 consecutive years by the CFS (Central Flying School, RAF) aerobatic team at the now legendary pre-war Hendon Air Pageant.

Although highly popular in many Air Forces worlwide, serving up until and during WWII, the AVRO 621/626 series eventually gave way to the more cost effective Tiger Moth and other more advanced trainers.

SSI01
January 9th, 2019, 17:56
Thank you, Nigel, for that interesting information. I've read truly great fighters, at least up to the introduction of artificial "feel" and computer-assisted flight control input, were inherently unstable to a certain degree as that indicated a quicker response to control input. It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger. Now and then I suppose something like an AT-9 came along that took that theory to its limit.

I should thank you as well for the interesting and quite beautiful photos of Greece, I can see why you are so attached to it.

blanston12
January 9th, 2019, 21:38
Hi Nigel, the AC looks great and reading of life off the grid is inspiring. If we were to start a "GoFundMe" page to get you another solar panel would that get the FSX native version done quicker?

dhasdell
January 9th, 2019, 22:03
It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger
I've read that the thing about the Tiger Moth was that it was easy to fly, which made it safe, but hard to fly well, which made it a good trainer.

nigel richards
January 9th, 2019, 23:07
Thank you, Nigel, for that interesting information. I've read truly great fighters, at least up to the introduction of artificial "feel" and computer-assisted flight control input, were inherently unstable to a certain degree as that indicated a quicker response to control input. It would make sense also that a good trainer should have the same characteristics - you would have to seriously "fly" the airplane, and therefore learn it rather than be a passenger. Now and then I suppose something like an AT-9 came along that took that theory to its limit.

I should thank you as well for the interesting and quite beautiful photos of Greece, I can see why you are so attached to it.

My pleasure Sir. :-)

The characteristics you describe were probably what made the later North American T-6 Texan/Harvard such a phenomenally awesome trainer.
She did all the talking to green pilots not paying attention to teacher.

Will try and get some better pics up for you once spring arrives.

nigel richards
January 9th, 2019, 23:21
Hi Nigel, the AC looks great and reading of life off the grid is inspiring. If we were to start a "GoFundMe" page to get you another solar panel would that get the FSX native version done quicker?

Very gracious of you indeed blanston12, Thank you for your kind suggestion Sir. :-)

I was originally going to release the AVRO series as donationware packages, essentially funding themselves.
However, as they are not truly 'Native' in the strict sense, I have decided to make the fs9/FSX portover freely available to all.
It is frustrating that even for donations, GREECE does not currently allow for Paypal accounts other than for bonafide Companies - obviously beyond my semi-retired capabilities.

Hopefully the First 2 Aircraft packages will be released here at SOH for this weekend:

1. AVRO 621 (Armstrong Siddeley Mongoose powered)
2. AVRO 621 (Armstrong Siddeley Lynx powered)

Fireball6
January 11th, 2019, 13:39
Nigel and all involved people - thank you so much for this truly masterpiece - the Tutor is fantastic :applause:

All the Best

Dirk

nigel richards
January 11th, 2019, 22:38
Nigel and all involved people - thank you so much for this truly masterpiece - the Tutor is fantastic :applause:

All the Best

Dirk

Thank YOU Dirk :-) - Have fun! :-)