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napacon
October 21st, 2017, 14:53
Remembering Lynn And Bill Lyons ..Years of Joy In Aviation They need no eulogy from me or anyone ,their mark is indelible in our Sim World...Miss Them!

https://images.imgbox.com/ca/fe/aeHNI87K_o.png (http://imgbox.com/aeHNI87K)

Daveroo
October 21st, 2017, 17:02
have they passed on?..or you just mean you miss them in flight sim?...

Penzoil3
October 21st, 2017, 17:02
I do too. I still fly the Piper Apache. Have it it P3D 4, but the door is missing. It's why I still have P3D 3.4 on my system. The scenery that came with their planes was great too !
Sue

napacon
October 21st, 2017, 17:26
Do Not Know DAVEROO,....Hope They Live Forever....was activating FS9, and the memories and joy came back...Just a Memory relived..

Willy
October 21st, 2017, 17:40
Their Sikorsky S43 was a long time favorite of mine. I pre-ordered Golden Hawaii as soon as I saw the first teaser screenshots of it. I think mine was probably the first purchase on it.

Where ever Bill and Lynn are, I wish them the best.

napacon
October 21st, 2017, 18:45
I D/L the other day.....What a plane what a model nice to hear the On Board announcement radio..and great Hawaii Music.Scenery,..The wonderful Operating small details .....Was great Willi ..Thnx !

Sundog
October 21st, 2017, 19:05
I really enjoyed everything they did, because they didn't just model airplanes, they modeled adventure. I would have to say my favorite was the Graf Zeppelin.

Willy
October 22nd, 2017, 05:38
I D/L the other day.....What a plane what a model nice to hear the On Board announcement radio..and great Hawaii Music.Scenery,..The wonderful Operating small details .....Was great Willi ..Thnx !

And you can change announcements and "radio presets" to any sound file you want to use. One I used was from the tv show "Firefly". "Oh my God! I think we're gonna crash" Now I've got this idea of seeing if I can get those announcement switches to work in something else.

Roger
October 22nd, 2017, 06:40
I reckon Tom (overshoe) would let us know if there were any news.

napacon
October 22nd, 2017, 06:42
Bills Dogs,Kids,Girls In All Those Planes... he put life Into our Modeling world...We Were In America in a simpler time....How I Miss Chasing ,Buzzing Those Smoking Trains ..Was All An adventure...I for One Sorry That trend,of real life did not carry into other Sims ..I find my self stepping back a bit,Rather Looking for the new? I Find The Old Very Gratifying...Old Friends ....

moune
October 22nd, 2017, 07:24
Hello,
Best in Fs9 and after in FsX :

FSX - FSX Early AircraftFSX Magic One Travel Air
[ Download (https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=107101) | View (https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fsview.php?do=list&fid=107101) ]
Name: tamo_fsx.zip (https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=107101)
Size: 7,260,677 Date: 12-10-2006 Downloads: 3,893

https://www.flightsim.com/images/fscfiles/l/tamo_fsx.gif
https://www.flightsim.com/images/fsc/wbicons/fcq1.gif FSX Magic One Travel Air. This is a modified installation of Bill and Lynn Lyons' Magic One Travel Air, and distributed as freeware by The Cielo Company with the Lyons' permission. This contains only the Magic One variation, and uses stock FSX gauges to approximate Bill Lyon's original virtual cockpit. By Bill Schulz.
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Also this one, like the rain effect landing on the lateral Windows :

https://simviation.com/1/download-file?file=The_Goose_updated_by_nor-cal_prop_club.zip&fileId=1999
Grumman Goose G21 Package (Category: FSX > Vintage) Zip file preview (https://simviation.com/1/preview?fileId=1999)
47.92Mb (18140 downloads)
Grumman Goose G21 FSX / Acceleration / XP /Tested The Grumman Goose was originally designed to fulfil a most unique role. The Goose was thought to be the perfect method of transport for Manhattan millionaires to fly to Miami. The potential of the Goose was soon recognized to be beyond that of a weekend luxury flyer, and rapidly it became the utility plane of choice for several air services. Because of its amphibious nature, generous interior space, and rugged construction which enabled the Goose to go just about anywhere it was quickly adopted by the Coast Guard as a rescue plane. The 51st G-21 was the second of a lot of four that was ordered by Peru. Manufactured in 1938, Darrell Terry flew it from Boeing Field in Seattle to Juneau, AK in 1974 where it was operated by Southeast Skyways. During 1982 and 1983, N327 appeared on TV as "Cutter's Goose" in ABC's "Tales of the Gold Monkey." It was eventually sold to James Templeton and later to Jim Chrysler who operated Chrysler Air in Washington and N327 was given a blue and yellow paint scheme. By Lynn and Bill Lyons Updated for FSX by the Nor-Cal Prop Club.
Posted Jan 24, 2009 16:05 by Ted.T


moune.

napacon
October 22nd, 2017, 07:57
Hi Roger Tom Answered That a time Ago ...saying....Aug 9, 2016 at 11:01pm Quote (http://mainescenery.proboards.com/post/83712/quote/14267) http://storage.proboards.com/forum/images/icon-like-button.png (http://mainescenery.proboards.com/thread/14267/bill-lyons#) http://storage.proboards.com/forum/images/icon-options.png



Post by Tom Constantine on Aug 9, 2016 at 11:01pm Bill retired from FS modeling about the time FSX was released. I haven't been in touch with him lately but he was building r/c models and actively flying them with his son. .......Good News !

Roger
October 22nd, 2017, 10:30
Hi Roger Tom Answered That a time Ago ...saying....Aug 9, 2016 at 11:01pm Quote (http://mainescenery.proboards.com/post/83712/quote/14267) http://storage.proboards.com/forum/images/icon-like-button.png (http://mainescenery.proboards.com/thread/14267/bill-lyons#) http://storage.proboards.com/forum/images/icon-options.png



Post by Tom Constantine on Aug 9, 2016 at 11:01pm

Bill retired from FS modeling about the time FSX was released. I haven't been in touch with him lately but he was building r/c models and actively flying them with his son. .......Good News !

What I meant Vin, was that if there were any bad news, Tom would let us know.

Naismith
October 22nd, 2017, 11:44
I think they just found other interests.

Roger
October 22nd, 2017, 11:53
I think they just found other interests.

As I recall, Bill was spending so much time developing that it was making him ill, so for his health's sake Lynn insisted that he move, permanently, away from sims.

falcon409
October 22nd, 2017, 12:04
I think they just found other interests.
It has been such a very long time since they left but I seem to remember that it was caused by a riff of some sort. Bill was upset about something (maybe rivet counters, nasty criticism, something to do with a model he either planned on releasing or had released and some backlash related to that). I do know he did not just decide it was time to move on. . .it was more of an "I don't need this crap" kinda decision.

napacon
October 22nd, 2017, 12:38
In Any Event..I can only relate to him for his work,and contributions,I Never Met The Man,But If I Did? I would Sincerely Thank Him For Enriching Me in this Thing called Desk Top Flight sim...


https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?11364-Freeware-Focus-On-Bill-Lyons

TeiscoDelRay
October 23rd, 2017, 02:17
As some of you might already know I was a friend of Bill's and, because we lived close to each other, he would visit me and we would work on the computer and toss around ideas for hours at a time (after we had gone to Culvers for a malt of course).

Bill gave up flight sims and took up building very small, super light indoor flying models. We used to go to the Mt Vernon Iowa high school indoor basketball court to fly them with a small group of enthusiast. His small fragile indoor planes were all unique and they all flew like birds with great flight times on a winding. I used to ask him why he didn't do flight sims anymore but never really got and answer.

Those were great times and so Bill, if your still out there, please give us a shout because we all miss you.

thefrog
October 23rd, 2017, 02:35
It has been such a very long time since they left but I seem to remember that it was caused by a riff of some sort. Bill was upset about something (maybe rivet counters, nasty criticism, something to do with a model he either planned on releasing or had released and some backlash related to that). I do know he did not just decide it was time to move on. . .it was more of an "I don't need this crap" kinda decision.
I had a vague memory of it being to do with criticism of his Tripacer, which is alluded to in this thread:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/46204-new-tripacer-from-bills-custom-classics/

dhasdell
October 23rd, 2017, 03:55
I'm another who really enjoyed Life with the Lyons and who still flies their products, especially enjoying Golden Hawaii, the Cub and the Tiger Moth. Every time I see a new release with, say, a swinging ignition key fob it reminds me again of just how much they did for us.

falcon409
October 23rd, 2017, 04:33
I had a vague memory of it being to do with criticism of his Tripacer, which is alluded to in this thread:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/46204-new-tripacer-from-bills-custom-classics/
Yes, that's the one. I looked around but couldn't really locate the original threads (not surprising) that facilitated his eventual move away from Flight Sim. Reasons aside though, he was an awesome modeler and Bill always included some terrific eye candy to go along with his creations.

ThinkingManNeil
October 23rd, 2017, 07:45
Remembering Lynn And Bill Lyons ..Years of Joy In Aviation They need no eulogy from me or anyone ,their mark is indelible in our Sim World...Miss Them!

https://images.imgbox.com/ca/fe/aeHNI87K_o.png (http://imgbox.com/aeHNI87K)

Their Stinson Reliant was a real favourite of mine. Beautiful modelling of a truly beautiful, classic aircraft...

N.

Panther_99FS
April 15th, 2018, 14:54
My FONDEST FS memories are with Lynn & Bill Lyons products...
They were the reason why I got PayPal! :biggrin-new:

jschall
April 16th, 2018, 07:16
My favourites were:

"Tales of the Gold Monkey" Grumman Goose and
Quad City Challenger ultralight.

Crusader
April 16th, 2018, 08:55
They were so ahead of their time . So innovative in those days . Enjoyed everything they put out .

Rich

Edit : What was the one where you had to land on top of a mountain ? There was old truck or car running around a track with a little town and a lot of ground structures ??????

tgycgijoes
April 16th, 2018, 18:25
It seems in my flight sim experience that the "rivet counters" which is a nice way to refer to complainers have more than once caused something like this to happen. My mother taught me that if you can't say something nice don't say any thing at all. Too bad their mothers didn't teach them.

With the limited repaints, scenery, gauges etc. that I have done let it be said with a whole lot of help from folks here, FSDevelopers and VA's I have been associated with, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all the creators that make our hobby great past and present and look to the future for even better things to come. I try at every turn to say thank you to them all whenever a new fs thing comes about.

:very_drunk: :applause: :encouragement:

Panther_99FS
September 16th, 2020, 20:22
The "Bill and Lynn Lyons" era (true "Golden Age") can never be replaced....

zswobbie1
September 16th, 2020, 22:25
I very much agree with what has been said about Bill, Lynn & his add-ons. Yes, a Golden & more gentle time.
He gave us adventures, not just a plane.
He is one of the forgotten developers & is missed by many.

Bill's legacy lives on, in many of our Golden & Silver Wings, be it FS9 or FSX.

leuen
September 16th, 2020, 23:44
Obvisouly and unfortunately there remain just a few people using their creations and willing to keep them alive. How times change!

Bernard

Motormouse
September 17th, 2020, 04:14
Obvisouly and unfortunately there remain just a few people using their creations and willing to keep them alive. How times change!

Bernard

Oh I still use them, Fs9 is alive and well on my computer.
Mind you, that kid and his model plane in the back seat can be distracting!

Ttfn

Pete

greybeardgil
September 18th, 2020, 09:42
Frankly we here at Golden Age Simulations would not exist today and all these years were it not for Bill and Lynn Lyons.They were the reason I got excited about making old aeroplanes for Fs9 -Fsx.I hope in some small way we pay homage to them both with Our Productions and keep the Spirit Alive!!

Josh Patterson
September 18th, 2020, 12:10
What turned my attention to them is that they had a Wittman Tailwind and living in Oshkosh of course I had to have it!. Then I got the Fairchild 24, Piper Tri Pacer (which I've flown for real) Pasped Skylark and the Lear 24. Still want the Quickie and being a fan of the V-173 and XF5U the Stingrey looks interesting. Regarding the Skylark I'm really looking forward to GAS's Aeronca LC sharing hangar space with it! I generally don't buy GA stuff but if you'd find it parked at the vintage barn at EAA my opinion changes!

Bomber_12th
September 18th, 2020, 14:31
Josh, the aircraft addons you're describing were made by William "Bill" Ortis (Lionheart Creations).

Josh Patterson
September 18th, 2020, 18:30
Josh, the aircraft addons you're describing were made by William "Bill" Ortis (Lionheart Creations). OH! I always thought Lionheart was a play on their last name, Lyons! Thank you for showing me the way! Did Bill and Lynn have payware planes too or just freeware? I wonder if I have any?

Motormouse
September 19th, 2020, 00:08
OH! I always thought Lionheart was a play on their last name, Lyons! Thank you for showing me the way! Did Bill and Lynn have payware planes too or just freeware? I wonder if I have any?

They did do payware, under the Custom Classics banner,
then these were released as freeware when they retired from the business. They started out in fs98, then progressed thru fs2000,2002 and finally 2004.

Craig Richardson reworked their Luscombe 8A for FSX,
you can find that at Avsim, (along with the forementioned Travel Air biplane)

Ttfn

Pete

b52bob
September 19th, 2020, 06:42
You know the thought just struck me. There are a few developers that really should be recognized for their contribution to our hobby. I am thinking just off the top of my head the Lyons, Lionheart and of course Piglet. Should It be freeware or payware? I don’t know. What sort of recognition should it be? I don’t know.

There are many developers that deserve our thanks and this may be one way to do it. Anyway, just a thought from my screwed up mind.

zswobbie1
September 19th, 2020, 07:36
For me, recognition is downloading their add-ons again, to make sure that their legacy lives on.
A great idea, lets compile a list of memorable developers, then maybe a page about them & their add-ons. If, by any chance, their add-ons have dissappered from the web, let's find them & try keep them safe.

Many, if not all of Bill's FS2002 add-ons work in FS2004, by the way.

llanning08
September 19th, 2020, 10:48
One of my Lyons favorites is his Sino-Swearingen SJ30 - Flying with the Stars payware package, one of his last creations. It ports over to FSX quite nicely and flys well.

I frequently fly his Custom Classics in both Fs9 (Golden Wings) and FSX. Wonderful gems!

Motormouse
September 19th, 2020, 11:50
One of my Lyons favorites is his Sino-Swearingen SJ30 - Flying with the Stars payware package, one of his last creations. It ports over to FSX quite nicely and flys well.

I frequently fly his Custom Classics in both Fs9 (Golden Wings) and FSX. Wonderful gems!

Wow....I never got that one, wonder if its still around somewhere

Ttfn

Pete

hertzie
September 19th, 2020, 11:57
"Ito-san's superb Westland Whirlwind now updated for FSX and P3D up to v3. All credits go to him, to William Ortis from Lionheart Creations for his updates and 2nd texture and to Lawdog for his great Peregrine sounds. 2D and VC panel with working gauges (included)"

Thanks to Bill Lyon's updates I was able to convert another great plane to FSX. Thanks Bill, for those many many hours of flightsim-fun you gave me!

hertzie

zswobbie1
September 19th, 2020, 12:06
Wow....I never got that one, wonder if its still around somewhere

Ttfn

Pete
I'm also yet to find his Sino-Swearingen SJ30 - Flying with the Stars payware package.
Any links or any info?

Motormouse
September 19th, 2020, 13:03
I'm also yet to find his Sino-Swearingen SJ30 - Flying with the Stars payware package.
Any links or any info?

IIRC it was sold by a publishing house, under the name of that publishing house.... fsaddon springs to mind....
or Simmarket

Ttfn

Pete
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Penzoil3
September 19th, 2020, 13:29
I do too. I still fly the Piper Apache. Have it it P3D 4, but the door is missing. It's why I still have P3D 3.4 on my system. The scenery that came with their planes was great too !
Sue
I now have the Apache in P3D5, with doors; thanks to a little help from a friend ! Love that plane.
Sue