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lazarus
October 7th, 2017, 00:09
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bymd7iALx2FoLXFveXZBWmd4elE

Something to bounce Yaks off


Soviet SWATH large anti-submarine aviation cruiser.
From a 2 inch jpg of a builders model, Ca 1985.

Revisited this early attempt- full hull, re built mesh,
textured blahblahblah, CIMOGT's ship door and elevator gauge
actuated hangar doors, see hangar door gauge file and read me for installation
procedure.

Codded effects, hunting for a way to put a condition on those to shut 'em down on
stop, might have to do a custom effect set.
Alpha pass, more fiddling with paint and details yet, much better than the original.

P3D users may have to rename a compatible effect to the ships FSX effects names

stack gass- heat blurry and SWATH smoke
bow- NSD 1134 bow. stern NSD stern 34
wake- wake NSD 61

see effects folder


Big bravo zulu to CIMOGT for the way cool animation code and xml gauge.


stack gass- heat blurry and SWATH smoke
bow- NSD 1134 bow. stern NSD stern 34
wake- wake NSD 61

Corrado5834
October 7th, 2017, 23:35
Haha,
thank you so much!

http://www.isoliti4gatti.it/immagini/PDA_03.jpg

BTW,
have you seen TMAS? The kit to add Tacpack weapons to any existing ship!
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Corrado

lazarus
October 7th, 2017, 23:54
Cheers.:biggrin-new:Thought that was a more...soviet...than looking for props and rotors...
Found another Delfin study, a single jpg. again, this for a Triton type out-rigger canoe type SWATH, and a very sexy looking LPD- like a Slava crossed with a Wasp.

strykerpsg
October 9th, 2017, 02:02
Interesting concept indeed. Really love the Russians outside the box of thinking regarding war machine design. Thanks for posting and sharing.

JosefK
October 22nd, 2017, 23:04
Nice design. Shame we don't have US Amphibs using this modern design... maybe because it makes sense.

lazarus
October 23rd, 2017, 11:26
It's got problems. Size and displacement is limited by the torsional rigidity of the cross deck, and seakeeping of a large swath design runs afoul of cross-deck slamming loads in a seaway. It also severely limits hull volume below the metacentric height of the ship, and it's a real beast to get space for uptakes and changing engines due to the limited width of the vertical hull members. Flooding and damage control is very problematic in a swath ship- you can't counter flood easily if you get a hole in it. Looking at this one, they've had to put a pretty small hangar topsides as the engine modules look to be under the island and ate up volume in the cross deck. For a small escort/ASW design, it might work, but there's just no way to get a bigger hangar without sacrificing maintainability and volume for gas and stores. A welldeck is pretty much out of the question. The model of the ship also showed a great deal of optimism about the volume required by structural members to keep the thing together. I couldn't make the back of the envelope calculations work with the proportions hinted at, so the crossdeck got thicker to make the load calculations work and yield sufficient volume for the Ship Crapp.
But it does look cool.

JosefK
October 23rd, 2017, 13:27
It's got problems. Size and displacement is limited by the torsional rigidity of the cross deck, and seakeeping of a large swath design runs afoul of cross-deck slamming loads in a seaway. It also severely limits hull volume below the metacentric height of the ship, and it's a real beast to get space for uptakes and changing engines due to the limited width of the vertical hull members. Flooding and damage control is very problematic in a swath ship- you can't counter flood easily if you get a hole in it. Looking at this one, they've had to put a pretty small hangar topsides as the engine modules look to be under the island and ate up volume in the cross deck. For a small escort/ASW design, it might work, but there's just no way to get a bigger hangar without sacrificing maintainability and volume for gas and stores. A welldeck is pretty much out of the question. The model of the ship also showed a great deal of optimism about the volume required by structural members to keep the thing together. I couldn't make the back of the envelope calculations work with the proportions hinted at, so the crossdeck got thicker to make the load calculations work and yield sufficient volume for the Ship Crapp.
But it does look cool.

Thanks Lazarus.

lazarus
October 23rd, 2017, 18:58
Probably more than anyone wants to know about swath ship naval architecture!:biggrin-new: