Carrier landings gone away - please help!

[Ganter]

I've just made 8 straight Go Arounds trying to catch the wire on Javier's Nimitz in the F-18 Hornet (FSXBA) and failed each time. Then I tried in the default F-18 and failed 4 times.
I know that for about 7 or 8 of those times I nailed speed, AOA, positioning, etc. I know the tail hook was down and all was set up.

Catching the wire used to be easy - well, not easy but I could do it 90% time.

What has gone wrong?

The only thing in the sim that has changed is I've installed Tacpack.

Please help - or I'm going to get wet!

Jim

[DaveB]

I've just made 8 straight Go Arounds trying to catch the wire on Javier's Nimitz in the F-18 Hornet (FSXBA) and failed each time. Then I tried in the default F-18 and failed 4 times.
I know that for about 7 or 8 of those times I nailed speed, AOA, positioning, etc. I know the tail hook was down and all was set up.

Catching the wire used to be easy - well, not easy but I could do it 90% time.

What has gone wrong?

The only thing in the sim that has changed is I've installed Tacpack.

Please help - or I'm going to get wet!

Jim

You've lost your mojo Jim:biggrin-new:

Are you calling the carrier in TacPack? Seems odd that after installing TP, your wires have been cut. Try trapping again with TP disabled and call the carrier with AIC. While not very scientific.. it may help nail down the problem.
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

You've lost your mojo Jim:biggrin-new:

Are you calling the carrier in TacPack? Seems odd that after installing TP, your wires have been cut. Try trapping again with TP disabled and call the carrier with AIC. While not very scientific.. it may help nail down the problem.
ATB
DaveB:)

Definitely lost my mojo with this one. I've got Tacpack configured to ask if it should run each time I start the sim as my other job is flying an A320X for a V airline. Tried it running and not running. Results? Aaaaahhh!

I wonder if I've been doing too much VTOL in Harriers and F-35Bs' recently. (looks away sheepishly)

[Ganter]

Definitely something wrong here.

I've just had another go - 5 attempts - 5 bolters!

I instant replayed and (although you can't see the Nimitz when you do) aircraft was on speed, AOA, tail hook down and...

Losing the will to live here.

Unless Tacpack has "changed" the Nimitz in some way I just don't get it.

Please help.

[DaveB]

TP may well do something mate. When I tried Nimitz in TP (when I first got it).. the deck was see-thru. Most unnerving:dizzy: I don't use it (TP) for carrier ops now. Lots of folk DO though so lets hope one of 'em comes up with something meaningful;)

ATB
DaveB:)

[Stinger]

Might be a dumb question, but do you have acceleration installed? You didn't mention which platform you're using

[Ganter]

Might be a dumb question, but do you have acceleration installed? You didn't mention which platform you're using


Definitely not a dumb question Sir. Thank you for your response.

Yes, I do. FSX SP2 with Acceleration.

I have been making Carrier Trap landings on Javier's excellent U.S.S. Nimitz for a few months now and it's only in the last few days that it's all gone wrong.
Tacpack is the only thing I've installed recently - apart from Dino's wonderful F-35.

I'm at a loss to understand this one.
Any help gratefully received.

Jim

[PhantomTweak]

Have you tried UN installing TacPac, not just telling it not to run?
If it's the only thing you've added, it seems to me it's done something, either to the boat or to you plane(s).
Have you tried using the default carrier with AICarriers instead of Javier's?
Are you using AICarriers.NET or the original, Java based version? I strongly recommend using the .NET version. It's much more stable, and uses far fewer computer resources. Better overall. Functionally, and visually, identical.
Have you tried the FSDT v16.1 Hornet instead of the default Hornet? I tell you true, once you fly that plane you'll never go back. Just so you know, BTW, the v16.1 Hornet is a very, VERY advanced version of the default bird. Same people developed the default for FSX Accel as created this amazing Hornet. Well worth a try, and it's TacPac capable, just so you know.

Just throwing out ideas, to see if anything might stick...
Pat☺

[Ganter]

Thanks for all that info Phantom,

I'll uninstall Tacpack first and see what that does.
I'm using AICarriers - the java version. I will swap over to the .NET immediately.

I am using the FS (sludge) F-18 - it is amazing! The only issue I have with it is an un-commanded wild pitch up on slowing to 250 kias, gear down. I hadn't noticed it before and although I'm trimming to get the bird into level aspect prior to recovery I wonder if it's related somehow to failing to get the hook every time.

Weird things going on in the sim. IT GETS SOLVED, TODAY!

Wait, just re-read - there seem to be two F-18's the "sludge" one and the Jimi's one?
I have Jimi's one - the "sludge" one doesn't have working links anymore.

[DaveB]

I tried that FSDT Hornet a while back and to be honest, there's little difference in the way it flies to the VRS Superbug. The VRS model is one hell of a piece of kit but if you don't fancy forking out.. the FSDT model is a VERY good second;)

One word with the .NET version of AIC. Unless you really want it to start every time the sim starts.. don't bother with the exe.xml entry. I know it has a smaller footprint than the Java version but if you don't need it.. why have it running. Just make a shortcut to the exe on your desktop and start it when you want. IF you're fiddling with something which requires you going into and out of FSX, the NET version can hang.. that is, not close down. You'll know it's happened when you next start the sim and it's jittery as hell. Easy to fix though. It'll be sitting open in the sys tray so just close it down from there.

ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

I tried that FSDT Hornet a while back and to be honest, there's little difference in the way it flies to the VRS Superbug. The VRS model is one hell of a piece of kit but if you don't fancy forking out.. the FSDT model is a VERY good second;)

One word with the .NET version of AIC. Unless you really want it to start every time the sim starts.. don't bother with the exe.xml entry. I know it has a smaller footprint than the Java version but if you don't need it.. why have it running. Just make a shortcut to the exe on your desktop and start it when you want. IF you're fiddling with something which requires you going into and out of FSX, the NET version can hang.. that is, not close down. You'll know it's happened when you next start the sim and it's jittery as hell. Easy to fix though. It'll be sitting open in the sys tray so just close it down from there.

ATB
DaveB:)


Thanks for this Dave,

I've had a look and yep, I've got the FSDT Hornet - not the sludge -which seems a little dated now.
I am currently at Lee On Solent (Orbx England) about to take off in it and nail some landings out in the channel.

Wish me luck.

[DaveB]

Rgr that:encouragement:

Do you have any of the Flying Stations 'Victorious' carriers? If not, look here.. http://www.flyingstations.com/

Victorious is a LOT smaller than Nimitz but don't let that put you off;)

EDIT: Look here for some great French carriers and a lot of other great stuff besides: http://royalefrenchnavy.restauravia.fr/RFN-Creations.htm
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

Rgr that:encouragement:

Do you have any of the Flying Stations 'Victorious' carriers? If not, look here.. http://www.flyingstations.com/

Victorious is a LOT smaller than Nimitz but don't let that put you off;)

EDIT: Look here for some great French carriers and a lot of other great stuff besides: http://royalefrenchnavy.restauravia.fr/RFN-Creations.htm
ATB
DaveB:)

I'll have a look at this Dave,

I do have Ark Royal on which I base my Harrier operations.

I've reloaded Nimitz and AICarriers - so will have a look at that.

Cheers,

Jim

[DaveB]

Yup.. get the original problem sorted first then add to your fleet later:encouragement: Victorious '59(60) is modelled and textured to a much improved standard than poor old Ark IV and the 64/66 Victorious is better still so DO check them out;)

TBH.. I can't see how TP would modify your existing models and if you have it set to 'Prompt'.. saying NO when FSX asks if you want to load the TP dll should be as good as not having it there in the first place but I agree that if everything was fine before you installed TP.. then uninstalling it is worth a try.
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

I am at my wits end.

I spawned aboard Nimitz with the FSXBA Hornet and the Cats are working and the wires are present.

I think your very first observation is true Dave:

I have, indeed lost my mojo. :banghead:

It HAS been a long time since I tried these landings as I've been flying the Harrier and F-35 a lot. I will report back after dong some low/ slow training for the next few hours.

[DaveB]

Jim..

Well.. that's something:encouragement: Try trapping with something a little less testing than the Hornet just to make sure;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

I haven't got anything else with a hook...

What would you suggest?

Jim

Edit: Okay - got it!

[tailhook]
tailhook_length=4.5
tailhook_position=-49.0, 0, -2.5
[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot=0.90, 0.00, -0.09
launch_bar_lug=0.90, 0.00, -4.09

[DaveB]

Jim..

Go to Rob Richardson's site.. http://www.robertjamesrichardson.co.uk/index.html

His Gannet AEW3, Scimitar and Sea Hawk are a good place to start:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[Ganter]

CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES!!!

Aboard after trapping...

Reinstalling the FSXBA Hornet did the trick. Or maybe I just got my mojo back Dave. :jump:

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[DaveB]

Good stuff. Now.. all you need is something smaller to aim at:

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/464a.jpg

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ATB
DaveB:-)

[DaveB]

continued...

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ATB
DaveB:-)

[Ganter]

That's more like it - the old grey funnel line.

I have R07 as part of my fleet with AICarriers for Harrier ops.
Would love Illustrious.
Is that a Sea Vampire ops off Victorious? - if so where did you get it? - edit: Sea Vixen!

Looking forward to F-35B ops off QEII as well.

[DaveB]

I nearly fell off my seat then. Sea Vampire indeed:biggrin-new:

Yup.. it's the Skysim Sea Vixen which is sadly no longer available. Flying Stations (Skippy) has let slip it's 'on their list' of models to make but don't hold your breath fella!! Depending on which flavour of Victorious you download (I have em all.. rude not to!!) you can find suitable aircraft to fly from Rob Richardson and you can get a Bucc from Flying Stations (payware). If you happen to be a member at UKMIL, you can get an FSX version from there too.

Illustrious is already in the library here as well as Ark Royal V (2010) and there's a conversion of QE available either here or at Simviation (under miscellaneous FSX). QE (and PoW) is a bit rough but it's available should you want to try it. Certainly more fitting to fly the F-35 from than any of the others;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[PhantomTweak]

Well, whatever it was, glad you got your mojo back :D

I personally do AIC backwards, I guess. I have it in my exe.xml, and if I'm not going to use it, I shut it off. 6 of one...

Have fun, and happy traps to you!
Pat☺

[Ganter]

I nearly fell off my seat then. Sea Vampire indeed:biggrin-new:

Yup.. it's the Skysim Sea Vixen which is sadly no longer available. Flying Stations (Skippy) has let slip it's 'on their list' of models to make but don't hold your breath fella!! Depending on which flavour of Victorious you download (I have em all.. rude not to!!) you can find suitable aircraft to fly from Rob Richardson and you can get a Bucc from Flying Stations (payware). If you happen to be a member at UKMIL, you can get an FSX version from there too.

Illustrious is already in the library here as well as Ark Royal V (2010) and there's a conversion of QE available either here or at Simviation (under miscellaneous FSX). QE (and PoW) is a bit rough but it's available should you want to try it. Certainly more fitting to fly the F-35 from than any of the others;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Yes, sorry about that incorrect Ident!

Looking at the weather there you must be off Pompey or Dartmouth.
Funny, when we see Sim pics from our cousins in America - it's never raining!
Good old Blighty.

I checked out Lusty in the library - I wish there was a really good payware RN Carrier - Ocean would be great even though its Helo's.
Thanks for the encouragement earlier today - much appreciated.

Jim

[Ganter]

Well, whatever it was, glad you got your mojo back :D

I personally do AIC backwards, I guess. I have it in my exe.xml, and if I'm not going to use it, I shut it off. 6 of one...

Have fun, and happy traps to you!
Pat☺


Cheers Pat,

I've switched over to the .NET version of AIC - re: your advice - and I have the .exe on the desktop ready for deployment when I boot the Sim. I either do this sort of thing or am sitting in the left seat of an A320X (FSLabs) and pretty much nothing in between - so it fits nicely that I can exe it as and when.

Jim

p.s: That FSXBA Hornet v16.1 with Tacpack is amazingly fabulous. Great fun.

[Ganter]

This is me on a good day - and probably why I found the traps so difficult - after not doing 'Those" types of landings for a while!

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[DaveB]

You're not far off on the location. I use Culdrose as my default start-up and I was heading out toward the SW approaches;)

Lusty is one of Gary's earlier models (and rather blue)! His 2010 Ark5 was made using Blender and is much better. As per.. devs get better with each model they make. Do try Victorious 64/66. They're nice models to be on. Not a lot to see compared to the big American flat tops but they're a quarter of the size:biggrin-new: Try those French carriers too.. Clemenceau/Foch/CDG. Lovely models and a pleasure to fly to;)

ATB
DaveB:)

[gp183601]

If you are looking for a payware level RN carrier then I agree with Dave - try victorious 64/66.

As for Lusty.... The one in the library was my first foray in modelling and when I look at it now it's quite hideous.

I'm adapting my Ark V model to create a variant of illustrious that's a bit more up to date for Henriks global ship traffic. Should be ready in a week or two. Still not to the same level as other developers but I'm learning as I go......at this rate I should get to Javier level in about 15 years!

:-)

I cheated with HMS Ocean....bought a model of Turbosquid and adapted it!

Cheers
Gary

[Ganter]

You're not far off on the location. I use Culdrose as my default start-up and I was heading out toward the SW approaches;)

Lusty is one of Gary's earlier models (and rather blue)! His 2010 Ark5 was made using Blender and is much better. As per.. devs get better with each model they make. Do try Victorious 64/66. They're nice models to be on. Not a lot to see compared to the big American flat tops but they're a quarter of the size:biggrin-new: Try those French carriers too.. Clemenceau/Foch/CDG. Lovely models and a pleasure to fly to;)

ATB
DaveB:)

Love Culdrose. One of my fav. night sorties is Fairford then west, intercept Bristol channel, fly under the bridge, and then overland across to Culdrose to bomb old aircraft carcasses at Predannack - then leg it back to EGHF (Daedalus) up the Solent. All in Night Vision and at zero feet. In the Harrier of course. Sometimes Ark Royal is off the Isle-of-Wight if I haven't had enough excitement for one evening for VTOLS.

Best,

Jim

[Ganter]

If you are looking for a payware level RN carrier then I agree with Dave - try victorious 64/66.


As for Lusty.... The one in the library was my first foray in modelling and when I look at it now it's quite hideous.

I'm adapting my Ark V model to create a variant of illustrious that's a bit more up to date for Henriks global ship traffic. Should be ready in a week or two. Still not to the same level as other developers but I'm learning as I go......at this rate I should get to Javier level in about 15 years!

:-)

I cheated with HMS Ocean....bought a model of Turbosquid and adapted it!

Cheers
Gary


Hi Gary,

That sounds very exciting - variant of R07 for Lusty. Would very much love to do OPS on that.

I have spent many a night biting nails at 180 kias "looking for the green luminous deck of home" when coming in to your Ark from some mission.
Love your stuff. True great builder and contributor to our hobby. Many thanks,

Jim

[PhantomTweak]

Hey Jim!
Is the exe on your desktop the actual .exe for AICarriers, or is it a shortcut? If it's a shortcut, set it to Run as Administrator. If it's the actual AICarriers.exe, when you run it, make sure you rclick and select Run As Administrator.
Just making sure :)
Is that the VRS Superbug? Just wondering. The HUD is very unfamiliar to me, but I can't afford payware so it's out of my reach if it's the TacPac Hornet.
In any event, have a great time, whatever you're flying :D
Pat☺

[Ganter]

I've done it as a shortcut to the .exe - which indeed gets to Run as Admin.

Razbam Harrier GR9 - better close up of the HUD reveals Speed and Height as a giveaway!
32 knots over the nose at 157 Feet, Nozzles at 72, Flaps 62, pilot flatulent.

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I love this aeroplane. It's much maligned but it takes a lot of flying. The VTOL performance IS demanding but not, I imagine, as difficult as the real thing.
I keep coming back to it and I now probably have more hours in this than anything else. It's one of the only aeroplanes in my hangar that has the genuine ability to frighten me. Unfortunately Raz never got round to equipping it with Tacpack but it fires live ordinance and A/A locks targets using its Radar. The weapon effects are very cool. It appears to be permanently on sale for $10 via the Razbam www. The AV-8B has the radar, the GR7/9 does not but you can still track via ECM.

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