Misty Flight - MV F-100D

[Mach3DS]

If anyone is interested,this is video from the first half of a mission out of Thailand into Laos playing Misty flight. It's quite raw and the audio is 3 yahoo's having and good time. I've spared you most of the bad jokes. If you haven't had the inclination to pick up the Milviz super saber then hopefully this puts the impetus in your action! It's a great jet and loads of fun! We flew this a few nights ago and had a blast! Thanks to Chris and Jon for letting me fly with them. Don't mind all my mistakes. As a point of interest for questions were using project Vietnam scenery and running CCP. I'm using REX and AS16 for wx. I'm also running PTA lighting mod for P3Dv3.4

1080p video link.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B43c_mD9H1xXMUU3a21JWDhKZDA/view?usp=drivesdk

[Dimus]

I enjoyed that a lot Rick! Thanks!

[jankees]

So did I, very nice

[Duckie]

Really cool! Thanks for sharing.

[Daube]

Pretty cool indeed !

[odourboy]

Wow! Nice flying on the air refueling. I know how hard that is. Really enjoyed part 1 guys. Thanks for sharing :encouragement:

[joe bob]

That is fantastic, nice formation flying!

[Mach3DS]

Thanks guys! There will be 3 parts...I ran shadow play for the majority of the mission...so I've got 16 gig of raw footage to sift through and edit minimally.

Chris and Jon are fantastic in formation. I just try to keep up! We usually have 2 more guys Toby and Lee for missions like this and I also belong to the CVW-8 air wing which has another 12 or so guys.

Toby and Chris have taught me everything I know about USAF flying and formation work. Jon (Misty32) has been a huge help recently in helping to identify ways to finesse formation and get in and stay in close. Which is what I'm working on now. I was purposefully a little further back to try and capture some good footage of 31 and 32 and took the pressure of me to have to think about flying really close and try and take acceptable video that would be fun to watch to some degree.

Thanks so Brian without your long hours we wouldn't even have the jet to begin with!

[Ian Warren]

If ever there is a video to make people want to go Multiplay , that was it , Rick , guys just superb!

[Anthin]

Incredible.Green with envy.

Well done.

Anthin.:applause:

[Mach3DS]

Working on part 2 now... had a bday party for my daughter and a tree to prune before it blossoms. Should be up tonight.

[xpelekis]

Very cool video and flying !
"CIA handlers" tend to appear in the most critical moments... :untroubled: Most eye kandy
moment in video for me was the breaking formation to attack on targets...

On a side note, an FSX@War Vietnam - Laos destructible targets theater and a
Laos 8 x CCP missions campaign is under beta testing currently with ETA release
less than a couple of months...

[Mach3DS]

See below.

[Mach3DS]

Ok scratch that. I'very deleted the old video and I'm uploading a better version. Should be available in about 20.mins.

[Mach3DS]

Ok try this...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B43c_mD9H1xXQm43QnlEZUc0WDg/view?usp=drivesdk

[Ian Warren]

:adoration: Now that was really 'Snazzy' .. you guys are going to need a couple these :very_drunk: You almost a slow FAC aircraft to mark the targets for ya .... mention of the F-105, that won't be a hesitation getting that one , Great vid Rick!

[skyblazer3]

Thanks for recording, editing, and uploading these Rick; always a pleasure flying with you. Looking forward to the upcoming CCP campaign -- if you need beta-testers...... I'm sure Jon, Rick, and I would love to attack it. CCP seems to be the way to go instead of FSX@WAR when it comes to multiplayer.

A big problem we've identified is finding the targets when players have different add-on land-class (orbx vs stock). Guys can get to the general target area by flying to a radial/dme fix, but then the hard part begins. Even with the same scenery, it is pretty hard for the fighters to see the target from their stack at 18k feet; with different scenery a talk-on becomes very difficult. We have two solutions to this: A few sorties ago, I flew this same mission with these guys, but acted as a FAC in Ant's T-28D with Tacpack. Giving them a talk-on, then marking the target with smoke as they rolled-in helped a lot, but the T-28 is not very multi-player friendly (causes low frames for other users), and we had FSX@WAR issues (also low-frame rates). We also don't always have a pilot to dedicate to the FAC mission, so a CCP smoke effect can be placed in the target area. Anyone else have ideas on how to find targets and share the information? I've been toying with the idea of using 1:50,000 maps of the region and 1km MGRS grids -- might be a little too intense for the sim.

I really love the T-28 from Ant, but the low-frames in multiplayer (which is seems to cause for other players) makes it a no-go for now. I'm considering downloading a freeware, or buying, an O-1 or O-2 for the FAC mission, and adding some Tacpack rockets. It is very satisfying to see these F-100s roll in to where they think the target is, then lay down a smoke mark, and give them an offset, or "hit my smoke," then give them a clearance once they call tally on the target. Does anyone have a recommendation for an addon O-1 or O-2?

The Milviz F-100 is great because everything in it works, and it doesn't hurt our frames in multiplayer; it is a beautiful formation machine, and just feels right. The capability to employ it on a sortie like this is just icing on the cake. Milviz collaborated with a few F-100 drivers to develop the model, and I think what came out is very satisfactory. My father did not help in the development, but he has 2,000 hours in F-100s, and he tells me that the Milviz jet feels very real to him. Recently we've been flying multiplayer sorties over SEA, as well as formation aerobatics (he was on the aerobatic team in the 1950s) -- it is pretty neat to see an 84 year old fighter jock back in the virtual skies and having a ball.

We are looking forward to more cold-war era jets that served in SEA. I think a lot of people would like to see a tacpacked version of Piglet's A-1 Skyraider as well. I haven't been able to get the A-1 to work in P3D though (highly reflective textures in the VC).

Thanks for all the nice comments on this video. The guys who have commented here are people I've really looked up to in this hobby over the last 10 years -- guys who have made this hobby a beautiful and comfortable place to fly.

Cheers,

Chris

[Ian Warren]

The Milviz F-100 is great because everything in it works, and it doesn't hurt our frames in multiplayer; it is a beautiful formation machine, and just feels right. The capability to employ it on a sortie like this is just icing on the cake. Milviz collaborated with a few F-100 drivers to develop the model, and I think what came out is very satisfactory. My father did not help in the development, but he has 2,000 hours in F-100s, and he tells me that the Milviz jet feels very real to him. Recently we've been flying multiplayer sorties over SEA, as well as formation aerobatics (he was on the aerobatic team in the 1950s) -- it is pretty neat to see an 84 year old fighter jock back in the virtual skies and having a ball.

That is the part I really like .. one can really confirm how dynamic these aircraft model are, .. the old "OH I WISH" , course everyone would like to jump in a really McCoy and go for a drive, but if a veteran can get the real feel .. hell's It the real deal , Well within its limits :cool:

[jankees]

second one is very nice too!
One thing I noticed: the paints you use show a completly bare metal rear of the fuselage, the way it comes with the Milviz textures. I have however never seen a pic of a F-100 in Vietnam with a bare rear end like that. They arrived in bare metal, were overpainted, and then the paint burnt off where it became too hot. So I have tried to make a bit more realistic SEA paint for the hun:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1056.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1056.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1064.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1064.jpg.html)

what do you think?

[Mach3DS]

That is the part I really like .. one can really confirm how dynamic these aircraft model are, .. the old "OH I WISH" , course everyone would like to jump in a really McCoy and go for a drive, but if a veteran can get the real feel .. hell's It the real deal , Well within its limits :cool:

Chris' Dad was a Skyblazers pilot. His authentic helmet is what my Skyblazers repaint is based on. His Dad flew.the previous mission where Chris was acting as FAC. He is rock solid in aerobatics and formation in the Hun. Milviz rendition is very accurate.

@jankees

Yes we were using stock paints as we didn't know who had what paint installed aftermarket. Yours looks great. I did a burned paint scheme for the RDAF and it was the most complex I've done. Congrats on yours. It looks suoerb!

[jankees]

Congrats on yours. It looks suoerb!

Thank you! I can make a trio for continued operations if you like?

[Mach3DS]

That would be graciously welcomed! If it's not too much trouble...a 4th would cover 2x 2-ships. :D

[jankees]

No problem. Any favorite squadron? Early scheme like this, or with big letters on the tail?

[SH427]

Oh how I'd love to join in! Need to upgrade to p3d someday

[Mach3DS]

Wow, thanks for the offer Jankees! I will consult with my squad. Early or late is ok with me. I wouldn't mind using the large letters of 1970's. I'll ask Toby to respond here with his preference and we can go with that. His Dad was also a Hun pilot which we've flown with. It's a real honor the have flown virtually with 2 former Hun drivers.

[mig21bis]

Gentlemen, just got caught up on this thread, and enjoying all the input - good to see my buddies here, fellow testers from these excellent projects.

One of our Hun drivers who helped with the MV project also has much combat time in it. He was shot down while supporting US troops in contact and picked up by Special Forces, spending time at their remote fire base until retrieved and returned to his squadron. His name is Jim Pollack, and I'd like to have his unit's aircraft immortalized by Jankees as a token of appreciation for his volunteer work on the Hun project. Would that be okay with everyone?

I'll relay info when I get it from Jim - Jankees, we certainly appreciate your work on these new paints, and will probably generate quite a bit of video action with them. Will look super sharp to have all aircraft from the same squadron.

Toby

[Victory103]

As a longtime member of multiple military VAs, it always seemed to be a miracle if we got everyone up with zero scenery or connection issues. Adding a moving ship complicates that phase. Your add-on haze really added to the visuals, one can almost imagine that 1000% humidity in the cockpit over SEA. Agree about the loaded Hun and look forward to doing this with the Rhino, after I finally get around to my P3D transition. Need an early model KC-135A in Tacpack.

I thought the form was great, it's easier real world.

[Dimus]

In the very few times I managed to fly with Toby while testing the F-100, it was a blast! Unfortunately our time zones are very different and it becomes very difficult. Besides the fun, it is a very effective method of beta testing.

[jankees]

Gentlemen, just got caught up on this thread, and enjoying all the input - good to see my buddies here, fellow testers from these excellent projects.

One of our Hun drivers who helped with the MV project also has much combat time in it. He was shot down while supporting US troops in contact and picked up by Special Forces, spending time at their remote fire base until retrieved and returned to his squadron. His name is Jim Pollack, and I'd like to have his unit's aircraft immortalized by Jankees as a token of appreciation for his volunteer work on the Hun project. Would that be okay with everyone?

I'll relay info when I get it from Jim - Jankees, we certainly appreciate your work on these new paints, and will probably generate quite a bit of video action with them. Will look super sharp to have all aircraft from the same squadron.

Toby
Would that be this Jim: http://supersabresociety.com/caterpillar-club/jim-pollak-caterpillar-club/?
Painting aircraft of his squadron is fine by me, just as long as I know which squadron we are talking about, I assume he flew with the 31st TFW? So we have 306 TFS/SD on tail, 308TFS/SM or 309TFS/SS?

[mig21bis]

Would that be this Jim: http://supersabresociety.com/caterpillar-club/jim-pollak-caterpillar-club/?
Painting aircraft of his squadron is fine by me, just as long as I know which squadron we are talking about, I assume he flew with the 31st TFW? So we have 306 TFS/SD on tail, 308TFS/SM or 309TFS/SS?

Affirmative, that's the man, Jankees. I'll relay his response.

[mig21bis]

As a longtime member of multiple military VAs, it always seemed to be a miracle if we got everyone up with zero scenery or connection issues. Adding a moving ship complicates that phase. Your add-on haze really added to the visuals, one can almost imagine that 1000% humidity in the cockpit over SEA. Agree about the loaded Hun and look forward to doing this with the Rhino, after I finally get around to my P3D transition. Need an early model KC-135A in Tacpack.

I thought the form was great, it's easier real world.

Victory103, Rick and I have lashed up a basic KC-135A - the old HJG model. Updated the model the run in P3D by locking animations. Probe is locked in down position - fine for in-flight refueling in TacPack, not meant to be flown though. I included the vintage paint - bare aluminum skin and "da-glo" orange highlights. Definitely a vintage, A model look. Here's a link, for anyone who wants to air refuel in the 1960's.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B735H-KPtnBUNS02Uy1ZbzJkM00

And here's what it looks like in use, if you want to check it out before installing:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B735H-KPtnBUTlR2cVdIRlc3ZWM

Toby

[jankees]

just upload my F-100 SEA paint, try it to see if you like it: http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/6056-milviz-f-100d-usaaf-55-3502-bien-hoa-1966/

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1060.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1060.jpg.html)

[mig21bis]

I love it, Jan! Your "hot metal" work in the tail section is excellent. Four tail #'s would allow us to look real in a full flight of Huns, heading out on an interdiction or CAP mission.

Jim Pollak described sitting CAP alert as two-ships at Bien Hoa, and really hustling when they'd get the "TIC" call.

Jan, thank you so much for this work.

Toby

[Dimus]

Very nice indeed. Just a small comment on the dark green. I believe it is too brownish. Typically the color code is FS 34079, clearly dark green: http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=34079

[jankees]

Colorblindness strikes again.I used the milviz colors, or did I mess that up as well?

[Dimus]

There was indeed a brownish scheme in one of the initial MV releases but it was promptly corrected. All SEAC schemes in the current SP are correctly green.

[jankees]

OK, I'll look at that as well. Do we have an idea of which squadron and/or timeframe/lettering style yet?

[mig21bis]

I'm sorry, Jan - have not had a response yet fro Jim Pollak. I see he was based at Tuy Hoa, though, not Bien Hoa.

[jankees]

OK, progress so far: I have completely redrawn the camouflage, after Dimus' remarks regarding the colors.
Please note that I am very much colourblind, so the difference between green and brown usually eludes me. Luckily he gave me a code, so I could look it up.
While I was at it, I had a look at the other colors, and what literature said they should be, and they were all different, so I thought I might as well start over.
They are now FS 34079, FS 34102 and FS 30219 for the top surfaces, in case you wonder.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1154.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1154.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1153.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1153.jpg.html)

a generic scheme, no peeling paint or markings yet. Specs also still to do. My plan is to make 4 aircraft, each with an individual camouflage (they were all slightly different) and weathering, from one squadron. I have data for four 308th TFS aircraft, including a few with noseart, the other squadrons based on Tuy Hoa are proving a bit more elusive. Is the 308th OK, or do you want another squadron?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1152.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1152.jpg.html)

[Dimus]

I think it looks great Jankees! I also like a lot the amount of softness i.e. airbrush effect in the demarkation lines. It is just the right amount. An excellent base to make many schemes from.:encouragement:

[jankees]

ah, good to hear you noticed that!

here's a few first wip shots for a 308 TFS aircraft:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1175.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1175.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1178.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1178.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1180.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1180.jpg.html)

[mig21bis]

Sweet, Jan - thank you!

As Dimus noted, the camo paint looks like it has been applied with an actual air spray gun. I have not heard back yet from jim Pollak, so let's press ahead in the direction you are going. We'll fly these four paints of yours together in our SEA missions, and get video for you. One of us will act as FAC in T-28, OV-10 or A-1.

We surely do appreciate your time on this,

Toby

[Mach3DS]

Jankees! Amazing work! Thank you! Our squadron and the real pilot will be very appreciative!

[jankees]

I'm glad you like it already, but it was (and is) still work in progress..
I had been wondering why 56-3163 was so often referred to as 'Day Tripper':
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1184.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1184.jpg.html)

and I added a few more details, like the name of the pilot and crew chief:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1194.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1194.jpg.html)

and different rescue arrows:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1201.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1201.jpg.html)

and played with the alpha to get better engine textures:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1202.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1202.jpg.html)

still a few small details to sort, but nearly there, unless you spot any glaring errors? I'll finish this one tomorrow and start on the next three..

[Ian Warren]

That dose look superb JK , FSpilotshop running a MILVIZ running in with a special make me tempted , http://www.fspilotshop.com/milviz-100d-super-sabre-for-fsx-and-p3d-p-6037.html?osCsid=2bm6kmlt63ff5umt5aa1950eb4

[hschuit]

56-3163 looks awesome, outstanding job that burnt paint on the exhaust area. What is the story behind the light blue bottom? Usually the SEA aircraft bottoms were painted light grey (FS36622).

[jankees]

What is the story behind the light blue bottom? Usually the SEA aircraft bottoms were painted light grey (FS36622).

Category things to do and colourblind, thank you for pointing it out! It's the French underside colour. Never saw it was different...

[jankees]

Ok, here's four of them, hopefully now all with correct colors:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1231.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1231.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1226.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1226.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1213.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1213.jpg.html)

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1222.jpg

(http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1222.jpg.html)

[Ian Warren]

JUST BLOODY GORGEOUS ! JK :encouragement: .. simply something about this era and they actually used them in every possible way :adoration:

[hschuit]

JanKees, these paints are simply stunning, colors look right :applause: Are you considering a French camo paint as well ?

[jankees]

JanKees, these paints are simply stunning, colors look right :applause: Are you considering a French camo paint as well ?
That was actually the first one I did:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/ss24030.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/ss24030.jpg.html)

[hschuit]

That was actually the first one I did:


Thanks! I found it at OZX.

[mig21bis]

JanKees, I like your use of the big white tail numbers = will stand out in videos of this four-ship. They do look spectacular, will install and use with our multiplayer group as soon as you release them.

With gratitude,

Toby

[jankees]

Uploading as I type. I'll be travelling next week, so I thought I might as well upload them now. Should you find any errors, please let me know, and I'll correct them after I get back.

The lot, with 56-3287, of Lt Col Jim Rodeen in front:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1238.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1238.jpg.html)
they brought my computer to its knees, so this is the only shot I managed of all four of them..

56-3171 Beth's Ace:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1249.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1249.jpg.html)

55-3550, with a boar's head, or is that a wolf??
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1242.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1242.jpg.html)

56-3163 Day Tripper:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/F-100D/jk1244.jpg (http://s722.photobucket.com/user/jcblom60/media/F-100D/jk1244.jpg.html)

and the upload is ready too: http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/6061-4x-milviz-f-100d-usaaf-308th-tfs-tuy-hoa-ab/

Have fun!

[Dimus]

Looking really nice Jankess!

[modelr]

Jankees, those look absolutely marvelous!... as fresh out of the paintshop. I was around the F-4C/D & E a lot in that time period, and the paint used then faded/weathered very fast! In just a week of use, the fading was obvious. And this was in the high desert at Victorville, Calif. George AFB, just south of Edwards AFB.

I don't remember the actual repaint schedule, as I worked in the bomb dump, but was on the flightline a lot, doing flightline delivery of ordinance. I do remember that whenever a spot needed touching up after a repair, it was very obvious as the new paint really stood out from the weathered paint. It could be seen from many yards away.

I am sure many of the old guard here from that time period will agree, but without actual pictures of elapsed time, it would be hard to get right, or maybe I should say, wrong?!

Anyways, I really like those Huns. Very well done.