Virtavia B-29

[MustangL2W]

Did anyone ever do a repaint for the Virtavia B-29 Superfortress "Doc?"

[StormILM]

Yes, someone did make that repaint and I have it BUT I tried to find a download link/location and could not find one right off. I'm sure someone will post it here soon.

[jeansy]

I have one in the works

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/104588-virtavia-b29-paints?p=1068029&posted=1#post1068029

[Jafo]

I have one in the works

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/104588-virtavia-b29-paints?p=1068029&posted=1#post1068029
Cool ....saves me doing one...;)
I've been reworking the Kit more to my liking...and ending up with some oddities [what-ifs] .... like a Qantas commercial version...

I didn't much like the way the colouring/shading/spec was done in the Kit so did it 'my way'. Gotta rework the bumps for all my windoze next.....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47385&stc=1

[Ian Warren]

:biggrin-new: Good one JAFO ... but didn't they upgrade to the B-52 recently :biggrin-new:

[Jafo]

:biggrin-new: Good one JAFO ... but didn't they upgrade to the B-52 recently :biggrin-new:
Nah....they went for the XB-70 instead....;)


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47418&stc=1

[manfredc3]

Did anyone ever do a repaint for the Virtavia B-29 Superfortress "Doc?"

A quick google search lead me here: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?300217-Virtavia-B-29-Superfortress-*DOC*-Repaint

Look at post #13. The file is no longer available there, but maybe you can contact the poster.

I have the repaint, but am not sure if it is allowed to upload it.

[Jafo]

A more 'real' one I've been reworking a bit..... and I found how to get a bit of Spec into the spinners .... ;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47524&stc=1

[Ian Warren]

Looking Great JAFO :encouragement:

[Jafo]

Concentrating on this one....as always...annoying sectioning of the paint.... the nose numbers are....entertaining....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47534&stc=1

At least the Enola font will be right....pulled it off the real one...;)

[Jafo]

I reckon I'm getting close with Enola....added the wing paint panels ....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47563&stc=1

[Jafo]

Found issues with painting....bits of fuse that are repeated...kinda makes detailing problematic....either don't add it...or end up with 2.

Happy with the left side though.....even rewrote the notes...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47752&stc=1

Here 'tis...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47753&stc=1

[MustangL2W]

Those look really great!!!

[Jafo]

Finished Fifi ....
....took a bit of chasing for details...duller metal finish than Enola, it seems....and wing walkway is different....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48011&stc=1

Time to compile the DDS's and upload both...;)

Here's Enola....same lighting...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48012&stc=1

[Bomber_12th]

Very nice repaints, Jafo!

The reason for why the CAF's B-29 "FIFI" looks the way it does, is because it is painted silver/grey overall, it isn't natural metal (save for the cowl rings and exhaust shroud panels) - the paint itself is quite dated now as well. The details of its external finish aren't very authentic either - for instance, when it was last painted (I believe it was free/donated service), the company accidentally painted all of the stars & bars in black & white, rather than insignia blue & white (the "FIFI" name was done in blue).

Of course the original "Enola Gay", at the Smithsonian, has had all of its original natural aluminum polished (its metal finish having oxidized quite a lot over the decades, prior to restoration/conservation efforts), to resemble the un-polished, fresh-Alclad look it had in 1945. On your repaint of "Enola Gay", I particularly like what you did with the metal finish vs. the silver-painted sections - it looks very true to life/accurate!

[Jafo]

Re 'Fifi', yes, it's blue...but as with all online photos....the blue shows up differently on several [along with specific details not always the same/vintage]. I chose a relatively darker blue than what's in some pics....comes in at RGB 8-28-60....and was toying with doing the spec brighter....so it'd end up all sortts of shades depending on the lighting...but decided conservative was the go...;)

[WarHorse47]

Hey guys, maybe this will help..

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Air%20Shows/2014%20Olympic%20Air%20Show/DSC01236_zps5bac8b8e.jpg

Taken in 2014 when Fifi visited our area.

[Jafo]

Hey guys, maybe this will help..



Taken in 2014 when Fifi visited our area.

Yes....but the problem always arises....accuracy of colour reproduction. I've seen lighter....and darker. Half the time you have to find a reference point...something whose colour is known...and determine the chroma shift.
And when details elsewhere are painted differently/missing on some photos you suspect such things as 'fifi' might even have been repainted more than once....and in different colour hues...;)

Your photo looks like it has a blue-shift, if anything...which will accentuate blues. Is the grass too blue...less green...and is the yellow paint on the tarmac maybe less yellow than it should be?
It's hard to tell reality from Kodak-getting-it-wrong...;)

[WarHorse47]

Yes....but the problem always arises....accuracy of colour reproduction. I've seen lighter....and darker. Half the time you have to find a reference point...something whose colour is known...and determine the chroma shift.
And when details elsewhere are painted differently/missing on some photos you suspect such things as 'fifi' might even have been repainted more than once....and in different colour hues...;)

Your photo looks like it has a blue-shift, if anything...which will accentuate blues. Is the grass too blue...less green...and is the yellow paint on the tarmac maybe less yellow than it should be?
It's hard to tell reality from Kodak-getting-it-wrong...;)Not sure if I agree with your perception.

Why don't you contract CAF directly and ask them what color it really is. They have a page on FB that reports on Fifi's schedule, so I'm sure they can address your questions.

[Jafo]

Not sure if I agree with your perception.



You may need to....as a colour pick of the static prop blade in your picture gives an RGB of 80,80,100.
25% too much blue when the 'expected' would be 80,80,80 for a gloss-shifted/lighter 'black'....;)
Same issue with the 'black' radome/antenna.

Here's what you get when the blue is pulled back 18% to make the blacks black.....quite a substantial difference....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48046&stc=1

[MustangL2W]

Jafo, are you going to upload any of these great Superfortress repaints?

[Jafo]

Jafo, are you going to upload any of these great Superfortress repaints?
Yes....shortly....
Wasn't quite happy with the scale of text under the tailplane of Fifi....the "Boeing B-29 Superfortress" and "NX529B" so was redoing those...;)
And more fiddling with the spinner spec.

[Switchblade408]

Been working around the real-life 'FIFI' for a couple of years. The plane hangars at my local air museum. They're supposed to be heading out on tour some time in the next week or so. I have some relatively recent pics if you need some.

[Jafo]

Been working around the real-life 'FIFI' for a couple of years. The plane hangars at my local air museum. They're supposed to be heading out on tour some time in the next week or so. I have some relatively recent pics if you need some.
That'd be cool....
It seems Fifi is in a constant state of 'flux'....there's more than one version of painted detailing around...eg the location of the 'CAF' text.

I could do a reworking of what's done already...as a current 'state of play'...;)

Meanwhile....I've uploaded both Fifi and Enola Gay here at SOH.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48052&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48053&stc=1

[Switchblade408]

Can't say my pics are the best quality. But, I try.

[Switchblade408]

some more close ups.

[Switchblade408]

And the last batch for the night. Hope you find these somewhat useful.

[Jafo]

They're pretty much contemporary to what I worked with....tho curiously the front on view of Engine 2 shows the wing with a de-ice black panel...and the last shot has none.... again an indication of how Fifi seems to 'change'...;)

[mal998]

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[docjohnson]

Jafo,

Love the paints! Any chance you could do a hi res paint of my Uncles B-29 "Thumper"? Here's links to some images and one color profile view:

http://www.strategic-air-command.com/aircraft/B-29/b29-images/b29-profile13.gif

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IT8RZSzuAaM/V7pYGnegT6I/AAAAAAAEXy8/xbhnTk1RaMIH82dosBopC_Ui46ZAgDxowCLcB/s640/640-b7d5383f94366c44f707c1362ae596d9.jpg

http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/NMUSAF-Photos_I/images/B-29-THUMPER-at-Boeing-plant-NMUSAF-2.jpg (http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/NMUSAF-Photos_I/images/B-29-THUMPER-at-Boeing-plant-NMUSAF-2.jpg)

Thanks in advance!

[Jafo]

I can give it a go....I'll have to google a bit first...;)

[Jafo]

Really early days....just the nose-art will take a bit of fiddling...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48113&stc=1

Edit....just about drew the thing by hand....but it's getting there...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48115&stc=1

[Jafo]

Ah....more nose art on the right side....looks like she did a few missions too...;)
Edit....didn't take all that long...
...still gotta find the pilot's name.....got the navigator...I. L. Smith ...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48116&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48117&stc=1

[MustangL2W]

I'm still amazed that nobody seems interested in doing a repaint of "Doc."

[Jafo]

Gotta convince myself about details on the rear end of the plane....and do the specs...but it's getting there...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48137&stc=1

[docjohnson]

Looks absolutely fantastic, thank you and here's some help on the pilots name, I'll look into the gunners position.

Pilot = Lt Col Robert E. "Pappy" Haynes

Here's the rest of the crew:

http://www.497thbombgroupb29.org/images/air%20crew%20photos/A-21%20Campbell%20Crew%20A-21%20.png

Here's the link to the main 497th BG site:

http://www.497thbombgroupb29.org

[Jafo]

Cool....thanks for the links.....although you can't really read the lettering at 4 pixels in 2048 I like to try to get it right....like with all the target cities on the bomb/raid icons.... and the text telling you what to do if you can't get the right fuel...;)

I just need to chase up what rescue details/text she had or hadn't...and what was the go with the wing walkway...if any. One of those shots shows the engine cowls pretty oily too...so maybe I need to get a little down and dirty...;)

[llanning08]

I've had this repaint of Wichita's 'DOC' for Virtavia's B-29A since July 2016. Not sure who "Alan W" is, full name not in the Zip. Also not sure from which website I downloaded.

[Jafo]

Yes, I was sure 'Doc' was already around somewhere....;)

Other than looking again at 2 of the more significant 29s....Enola and Fifi.....I personally would rather do ones not already done by others...;)

[modelr]

I've had this repaint of Wichita's 'DOC' for Virtavia's B-29A since July 2016. Not sure who "Alan W" is, full name not in the Zip. Also not sure from which website I downloaded.

I found the original post, it was on Flightsim.com, in the screenshot forum. Posted by deepdiver8055 (http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/member.php?472394-deepdiver8055) , who's name is Alan Wengren. However, he has not posted since 12/19/2016, and all the links in his blog about the paint are dead. His FLicker page is still live showing screenshots of his paints. He was prolific.


Found him over at the A2A (A@A) forums. Known as "EightyFiftyFive" there. Lots of posts and paints.

[Jafo]

I think I've got it done.....added some oil/exhaust stains...as that crowd photo showed...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48198&stc=1

[llanning08]

Boeing B-29A-55-BN Superfortress Jack's Hack, S-N 44-61975, on display at the New England Air Museum. A very good restoration and an interesting nose art example. Would make a nice repaint subject.

[Jafo]

I've just uploaded these two to SOH...
"Thumper"...
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48241&stc=1

....and for a wee bit of fun....a 'what if' that'd be mildly unlikely...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48242&stc=1

Perhaps I should have a look at 'Jack's Hack'.....

[Switchblade408]

Ever look at doing a US Navy P2B repaint for the B-29, JAFO?

[Jafo]

Early days....but the hard bit's done [mostly]....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48268&stc=1

Edit....

Nose Art is essentially complete....just the rest of it to do...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48270&stc=1

[MustangL2W]

One of the most interesting pieces of nose art ever...... I have always been fascinated by it, and can't imagine the man hours it took to paint. I am certainly grateful to you for tackling such an endeavor!!!

[Jafo]

It's a fun one....still have to determine what's happening with the ground shadow vs reflections...and whether to do the Crew names on the nose gear doors.
They'll take a bit of doing ....for limited benefit. [visibility/clarity]

[SSI01]

Jafo, I see some of those B-29s with no turrets. That brings up interesting possibilities, like VIP birds or possibly weather recon or air sampling aircraft.

[roger-wilco-66]

A few Fifi shots from Oshkosh last year. Note that the front of the cowling is unpainted, as well as some panels around the engine nacelle. And that battered look! Also, each engine has it's "personal" name: the port engines are named "Mitzi" and outboard "Ingrid". The starboard engines are "Rita" and outboard "Betty".



http://orig09.deviantart.net/a776/f/2016/239/b/0/betty_s_sisters_by_roger_wilco_66-dafhxbr.jpg

http://orig09.deviantart.net/d67a/f/2016/239/e/5/head_on_by_roger_wilco_66-dafhwyo.jpg

http://orig10.deviantart.net/057c/f/2016/239/8/f/meet_ingrid_by_roger_wilco_66-dafhy37.jpg

http://orig14.deviantart.net/fca8/f/2016/279/0/7/meet_betty__2_by_roger_wilco_66-dak3tcu.jpg

[Jafo]

They're cool....I'd seen the engine names....but not all of them....betty...ingrid....mitzi....and ?

i could add them and polish the cowl easy enough....if i knew the 4th....;)
edit....oops....saw the 4 names....shall do something....;)

Edit 2...

Doing the Engine names....and meanwhile this is done....except not the crew names yet...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48281&stc=1

[Jafo]

Eng 1 and 2 done....or should I say....Ingrid and Mitzi ...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48282&stc=1

Edit....and Rita and Betty ...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48283&stc=1

[roger-wilco-66]

:ernaehrung004: I have not bought the B-29 yet, but now I'm tempted :-)

[SSI01]

There's one little quirk to this thing. On my rig I start cold & dark. parking brake applied. I activate battery, open cowl flaps, open oil cooler flaps, make sure master ignition is off, all mag switches to "off," crack throttles, then open fuel valve no. 1, set mixtures to 100%, turn on fuel pump no. 1, move master ignition to "on," turn mag switch for no. 1 - and aircraft goes absolutely berserk on the tarmac, performing flips, spirals on the ground while engine no. 1 cranks w/o firing. This thing apparently does not like anyone trying a cold & dark start on it - or at least on my installation.

[roger-wilco-66]

Not sure if it relates to the problem, but isn't the start up sequence 3-4-2-1?


Cheers,
Mark

[AussieMan]

Not sure if it relates to the problem, but isn't the start up sequence 3-4-2-1?


Cheers,
Mark

That is the sequence most 4 engine aircraft. Appears main generator and hydraulics are powered by #3 engine. Friend who was a former DC-3 pilot told me they always start the engines on the starboard side first.

[DaveB]

On passenger aircraft (at least).. the RH engines are started first because pax always embark on the left and you don't want late arrivals embarking in the vicinity of things turning and burning!! As a consequence.. some services tend to be fitted to the RH engines. The Vickers Vanguard (which I'm au fait with) has a generator on each engine and in the early days.. start sequence was 4, 3, 1, 2 (note that the Vanguard had airstairs in those days too). Engines 3 and 2 had aircon units fitted so that some conditioning could be provided prior to the doors closing. The start sequence changed later to 3,4,1,2 and stayed that way until it's end as a Merchantman. By this time, the aircon unit on #2 had been removed as the requirement for more conditioning had gone with only freight and horses being carried. It was also a weight saving move.

ATB
DaveB:)

[roger-wilco-66]

Found a Fifi - startup. #3 is already running, and the crew proceeds with #4 etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5O-9HzSKc

[Jafo]

2200 fonts later and it looks like I'm 'drawing' the crew names on Jack's Hack....
...even though they'd probably be illegible at 2048 ...;)

Edit.....looks like it's legible afterall...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48362&stc=1

I think it's about done...;)

[stovall]

Looks like the startup sequence is about the only thing Mark and I missed at Oshkosh 2016. Doing the walk through of Fi Fi was definitely a highlight of our trip. :adoration:

[roger-wilco-66]

Looks like the startup sequence is about the only thing Mark and I missed at Oshkosh 2016. Doing the walk through of Fi Fi was definitely a highlight of our trip. :adoration:

Highlight "through", not only around :-) Amazing experience in great company, that it was!


Cheers,
Mark

[SSI01]

Soon as I get back from the MRI I'm going to give that 3-4-2-1 sequence a try.

[Jafo]

Jack's Hack has been uploaded to SOH....;)

BOEING B-29 Superfortress, 44-61975, c/n 11452, "Jack's Hack", 4th AF / 426th AAFBU, c.1946

Has the 'Crew names' on the left door of the nose gear too as it has on display...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48386&stc=1

[Lonewolfee1]

I always liked this one, mainly due to the story of Waddy Young.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48416&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48417&stc=1

[SSI01]

Re: the wild behavior on the ramp during startup - the 3-4-2-1 sequence takes care of that. Thanks for the tip.

[Jafo]

I always liked this one, mainly due to the story of Waddy Young.



If it ain't been done yet I'll give it a go....it'll be a little while though....this week it's the Aussie F1 race....and I'll be working it [looking a little like my avatar] ...;)

[Lonewolfee1]

If it ain't been done yet I'll give it a go....it'll be a little while though....this week it's the Aussie F1 race....and I'll be working it [looking a little like my avatar] ...;)

That'd be awesome! Thanks Jafo!

[SSI01]

I always liked this one, mainly due to the story of Waddy Young.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48416&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48417&stc=1


Just Binged his name. Quite a story about self-sacrifice and devotion to his country and his friends - his "team," as it were.

[Jafo]

GrandPrix's done and dusted.... looks like it's time to have a stab at 'Waddy's' ...;)

....and maybe a 'Doc' if that's been lost since...;)

[Lonewolfee1]

GrandPrix's done and dusted.... looks like it's time to have a stab at 'Waddy's' ...;)

....and maybe a 'Doc' if that's been lost since...;)


Looking forward to it.

[mal998]

The B-29 engine start up process from cold dark cockpit must be followed to the letter according to the reference start up procedures found under Aircraft _ Kneeboard _ CHECKLIST.

Also make sure each mag switch is put in the "both" position before you turn on the Master Ignition switch.

[Jafo]

Been a bit 'busy' in real life [tm] .....stuff got in the way so have been unable to get back into the 29s paintings......yet

A link which explains the delay....

https://forums.wincustomize.com/482496/page/1/#3673386

Today the cast comes off....then it's rehab time....much like the feeling you'd get if you slammed your finger in a door.....3 times a day...

....willingly....;)

[Pips]

Luv these repaints. Brilliant effort! :)

[Switchblade408]

Could you do a NACA repaint for the Virtavia B-29?

[Lonewolfee1]

Been a bit 'busy' in real life [tm] .....stuff got in the way so have been unable to get back into the 29s paintings......yet

A link which explains the delay....

https://forums.wincustomize.com/482496/page/1/#3673386

Today the cast comes off....then it's rehab time....much like the feeling you'd get if you slammed your finger in a door.....3 times a day...

....willingly....;)

Hope you feel better soon.

[Jafo]

Getting better....stitches come out this thursday...so there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Re a NACA ver.... post some pics of which...and I'll see what I can do...;)

[Switchblade408]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49261&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49263&stc=1 Haven't been able to find an awful lot of info on this Superfort. I think it was the one involved with dropping D-558 test jets.

Some additional info and photos are on this link: http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=23862