A Baker's Dozen of Stearman Repaints

[Bomber_12th]

I'm uploading these now to our library here at SOH, as well as Flightsim.com and Avsim. These repaints are all for the Vertigo Studios Stearman Vol.1 set and depict restored Stearmans that are currently flying or have flown in recent years. They all feature a number of texture modifications/improvements as well as each having their own custom specular textures, new engine textures (redid the ambient occlusion of the main engine core for better/correct appearance), new prop textures and customized pilot textures. (They all conform to the restrictions of the model - for instance, the diffuse alpha effects (glossiness) is all hard-wired into the model materials themselves, so there is nothing I could do with that - fortunately, however, with all of these particular paint schemes, that doesn't really matter). All of the repaints also have all of the stencils and dope codes (of various types) applied as per the real-world aircraft, with the dope codes time-stamped to match each individual aircraft/restoration (the dates themselves properly differentiating from one assembly/part to another).

Stearman PT-13 ZK-XAF, owned/operated by Stearman 03 Ltd. at the Classic Flyers museum based at Tauranga Airport, Mount Maunganui, New Zealand. The aircraft, originally manufactured as USAAF 42-17744, was imported to Australia in 1988, and later to New Zealand in 1996, then registered to Bay of Plenty Classic Aircraft Company Ltd. and based with the Classic Flyers Museum. The aircraft is painted in colorful pre-WWII U.S. Naval Fighting Squadron markings and is used to provide scenic flights and flight training to paying customers.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/555/32447829345_f050f85912_o.jpg

Stearman PT-17 N59293, owned/operated by Andrew and Mike Porter, based at Spring Lake, New Jersey. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 41-25714 and was used continually from June 1942 until June 1945. During WWII the aircraft had multiple assignments, one of which included Avenger Field in Sweetwater, Texas, home of the WASP (Women's Airforce Service Pilots), where it was based from February 1943 until August 1944. Sold surplus after the war, the aircraft was used as a crop duster in New Mexico all the way until 1981. Starting in 2006, the aircraft was restored to factory-original award-winning condition, and painted in the same markings it wore while stationed at Avenger Field, flying as a tribute to all of the WASP pilots. (In one of the aircraft's other WWII training assignments, Donald Strait flew this aircraft during flight training and would go on to become a double-ace flying P-51's with the 361st Fighter Squadron).
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/409/32296528362_c0fa76a9ac_o.jpg

Stearman PT-27 N56233, owned/operated by Chris Prevost/Vintage Aircraft Co., based at Sonoma Valley/Schellville Airport in California. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 42-15720 and later utilized by the Royal Air Force as Kaydet I FJ859, as it is painted today. The aircraft is one of three Stearmans which are put to use regularly selling rides through Vintage Aircraft Co.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/720/32296531122_25eae38dd3_o.jpg

Stearman N2S-5 N53549, owned/operated by Vanessa Jago, based at Oshkosh, Wisconsin. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 38575, was purchased by Charles F. Wright in 2001 and restored to factory-original award-winning condition. The number '75' on the side of the aircraft symbolic of the aircraft being the Model 75 (or A75). Vanessa Jago, who began flying at the age of 16 and is currently an airline pilot flying 747's with over 12,000 hrs of flight time, acquired the aircraft in 2015. The aircraft won "Best N2S" at the 2016 National Stearman Fly-In.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/755/32326725941_93a93c4675_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

Stearman PT-17 F-AZMZ, owned/operated by Edifience SARL, based at La Ferte-Alais, France. This aircraft has a history of film work as part of the Jean Salis collection, including use in the movies "Saint Exupery: the Last Mission" and "A Very Long Engagement", where it was modified to portray a WWI German aircraft. Currently F-AZMZ is painted in a stylish 1930's U.S. Air Mail scheme.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/636/32407733516_40b35619f1_o.jpg

Stearman PT-13 N36360, "Spirit of Tuskegee", owned/operated by Matt Quy up until 2011. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 42-17724 and in 1944 and 1945 it was based at Moton Field, Tuskegee, Alabama, where it was used to train the famed Tuskegee Airmen pilots. Matt Quy purchased the aircraft as a wreck and while restoring it back to flight discovered its connection to the Tuskegee Airmen while researching its history/WWII-assignments. With the restoration complete and painted as a tribute to the Tuskegee Airmen, Matt Quy spent a few years touring the country with the aircraft, helping to spread the story of the Tuskegee Airmen and providing rides to the original wartime pilots. In 2011, upon request by the Smithsonian, Matt Quy donated the aircraft for display at the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/395/31636101233_1c39401202_o.jpg

Stearman PT-13 N4672V, registered to San Benito Land & Cattle Co. and operated by the Hugh's Vintage Aircraft Museum, based at Hollister, California. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 42-17343 and following WWII enterred civilian life as early as 1955. The aircraft is painted in the markings of an early pre-war Stearman trainer, based at Rankin Field/Rankin Academy, Tulare, California. (Major Richard Bong, the highest-scoring American ace of WWII, is one of the noted pilots to have trained at Rankin during WWII.)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/739/31604346184_7243a6b4b6_o.jpg

Stearman PT-17 G-BAVO, owned/operated by Rory Clement McCarthey, based at Enstone Airfield, England. The aircraft's last military service was with the Israeli Air Force, prior to being imported to England in 1980. For a time, the aircraft was owned by the actor Martin Shaw. The aircraft is painted in early-WWII U.S. Army Air Corps trainer colors.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/284/32326748111_bb383bc7f0_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

Stearman PT-17 N38940, owned/operated by Paul Bennett, based at Priory Farm, Norfolk, England. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 41-8263, and from 1941 until February 1944 the aircraft was used continually, despite being involved in 4 separate training accidents, with a 5th accident taking it out of service althogether. The remains of the aircraft were restored, with the aircraft first flying again in 1977, and later, sold to Paul Bennett in 1992, the aircraft was restored again, to factory-original award-winning condition and finished in the same all-silver color scheme it would have had in 1944. The contrast between the metal and fabric surfaces on this aircraft is period-authentic, as although the fabric surfaces were coated in silver dope, the metal panels were anodized and left bare. Two versions of the repaint are included, with one featuring the temporary 445th Bomb Group tail markings the aircraft sported in 2006.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/642/32296552602_e86f7111af_o.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/475/31636093793_cd28e6186c_o.jpg

Stearman PT-17 N49739, owned/operated by John Mohr of Vadnais Heights, Minnesota. The aircraft was manufactured as USAAF 42-16299 and has been owned by John Mohr since 1975. With this stock Stearman, of only 220 hp, John Mohr crafted an aerobatic routine unmatched by anything else (as witnessed first-hand by the author of this repaint on several occasions). Winner of the Bill Barber and ICAS Art Scholl Memorial Showmanship Awards, John Mohr, seemingly able to defy the laws of physics with his flying abilities and patented maneuvers, thrilled airshow crowds for 25 years in classic barnstormer-style aerobatics, until quietly retiring at the end of the 2013 airshow season.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/414/32326735301_e98d1472f3_o.jpg

Stearman PT-13 N17384, "Stearman Fury", currently registered to Bright J. Tobias of Seattle, Washington. The aircraft was originally manufactured as 42-17578 and enterred civilian life in 1961. In 1971, the aircraft was purchased by Jim Williams of Sonoma, California, where it was operated from the Schellville Airport up until being sold in 2014. Williams painted the aircraft to look like one of his favorites, a pre-WWII RAF Hawker Fury biplane fighter (No.43 Squadron markings to be exact). While owned by Jim Williams, the aircraft was flown in an aerobatic routine at numerous airshows over the years.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/527/31636109233_da31a07446_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

Stearman N2S-3, N44JP, owned/operated by John Parish of St. Louis, Missouri. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 43576, was based (at least for a time) at NAS Ottumwa, Iowa in 1944 and 1945. The aircraft was acquired by the Parish family in 1980 and was sent to RARE Aircraft for restoration around 2009, where it was completely restored to award-winning condition, completed in 2011. The aircraft is painted in authentic U.S. Navy markings circa early 1943.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/726/32326747261_0bb300fc07_o.jpg

And this is the only one I really wanted to do at the start of it all, back in October...

Stearman N2S-1, N50061, owned/operated by Paul Ehlen and based at the Wings of the North Museum at Flying Cloud Airport, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 3347, is one of five Stearmans known to still exist that were flown by President George H. W. Bush as a cadet in the Navy. He flew this aircraft while training in the cold Minnesota winter at Wold-Chamberlain Airfield, Naval Air Station Minneapolis (modern-day KMSP), in January and early February 1943. The aircraft was sent to AirCorps Aviation for ground-up restoration in 2014, and emerged in 2015 as one of, if not the most period-authentic restored Stearmans to-date, restored to just as it was in 1943 (no electric starter (only hand-crank start) and no radios of any sort). The aircraft won "Best Stearman" at Oshkosh 2015.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/331/32297895672_1962c77ed6_o.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/327/32326731761_47235ab0bf_o.jpg

[Roger]

A great selection John:applause:

Do you know if there is a way to change the modelled nav lights as this is my main gripe with the model?

[PeteHam]

Magnificent textures of a classic aircraft :applause:

" Stearman PT-13 ZK-XAF, owned/operated by Stearman 03 Ltd. at the Classic Flyers museum based at Tauranga Airport, Mount Maunganui, New Zealand "

Here it is in real life. I fly this primarily doing local scenic flights. This is me hard at work :jump:

Pete.

[MustangL2W]

Bomber_12th... You have taken the Vertigo Stearman to a completely new level! Those are indeed some of the finest representatives of the type in existence. Can't thank you enough for adding these to the "Must" Haves to our Warbird Collections!!

[WarHorse47]

Wow. Thanks John. Looking forward to these... :encouragement:

Had to get the stopwatch out to make sure each was downloaded outside the 60 second constraint. :dizzy:

[docjohnson]

Very nice work! Thanks!

[Bomber_12th]

Thank you guys for the compliments - I hope you will enjoy the repaints in the sim.

Roger, I have yet to look at the textures for the nav light effects, but I'm sure something can be done with them (I just never use them).

Pete, I hope XAF will meet your approval! It was a late addition, but it has quickly become a favorite. Of course I made it with the updated/current tail markings.

[Bomber_12th]

Some more screenshots:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/307/32296529492_6e0d974339_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/566/32447852615_2af6ce2a58_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/518/31636055543_41665e5d01_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/495/32296581032_2f2fd62e25_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/361/32407719736_b4700521ee_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/551/32447886825_374b83bfd0_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/768/32296572602_901caa4950_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/263/32296561152_a01cd7b9fb_o.jpg

[Flyboy208]

Really magnificent repaints John can only imagine the time and effort that went into their creation. I have a Friend who owns A Stearman and a Stinson at my local airport ... here's a real pic for you. Mike :wavey:

[ryanbatc]

I love that US Mail scheme, very nice!

[MustangL2W]

Christmas came late this year..... Wow, What a gift!!!! THANK YOU again for these magnificent Stearman's. Love all the subtle little details on each one of them. I feel like I just walked the Trainer area of Warbirds at OSHKOSH!

[wombat666]

Superb work as usual John.:triumphant:
I was considering reloading the aircraft and now I will have to do so!

And a BTW to any insiders.
Interested to know what Vertigo are doing, checked out their Facebook page and they appear to be dabbling in several odd areas.
PaK37 anti tank guns, trucks, naval shipping and such, with a lone Nieuport N17 looking rather abandoned.
Their 'official' website has been 'undergoing maintenance' for quite some time as well.
:173go1:

[DaveB]

Cheers John. These have dragged an unused model from the darkest parts of an inactive hangar back to flying service once more!!
http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/stear1.jpg

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/stear2.jpg

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/stear3.jpg

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/stear4.jpg

RW wasn't much cop this morning!!
ATB
DaveB:-)

[dhasdell]

Very nice indeed. I especially like the Navy Yellow Perils.

[Crusader]

Outstanding work as usual Bomber_12th ! Downloaded all as someone else commented you have taken the Vertigo Stearman to a new level ! :applause:

Rich

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Nice Work B, 12 Ill need to reinstall that and the floats addon package so as to make use of them, it'l be a nice break from fast movers .

Regarding the navigation lights , you can modify their alpha channel to have less transparency and have solid color's , I would add cfg based lights along with the material versions or turn on bloom. . At the time I used the sims bloom capacity to brighten these but most users do not have bloom turned on so these are not at their best. As time went on the number of bitmaps we use to make modelled nav lights has gone from 1 to 9 and give a more sparkling result but this was an earlier production and predates that methodology.

Best CJ

[DaveB]

I think I swapped the originals out (including the rudder nav white) using MCX/Notepad++ CJ.. a relatively straight forward job taking only a few minutes. The only downside (on some models) is the lack of positional control which, had these all been in the cfg, could have been tightened up a bit more. The nav red/green aren't too bad but the nav white could do with coming back a wee bit.
Didn't realise adding bloom would kill the 'oversize' look.. I never have it on.

ATB
DaveB:)

[Tim-HH]

Hi John,

thank you very much for these excellent repaints! :applause:

Greetings
Tim

[Bomber_12th]

Thank you all again for the replies/feedback!

My initial interest in doing a repaint for the Vertigo Stearman was in making a repaint of the N2S-1 BuNo. 3347, as restored to full original factory specifications by AirCorps Aviation, owned/operated by Paul Ehlen. Fortunately, thanks to Robert41, I was able to get some great detail shots of the aircraft from Oshkosh 2015, and then back in October, I actually got to visit AirCorps Aviation, where the Stearman was undergoing its annual inspection, and I was able to photograph every last stencil and other detail I could find (such as the stenciled numbering system for the strut mountings). During most of the year, when not flying, the aircraft can be seen publicly displayed at the new Wings of the North Museum, at Flying Cloud Airport, in Eden Prairie, Minnesota (where Paul Ehlen also keeps his P-51D "Sierra Sue II" (the most period-authentic flying P-51D), his Craig Army Air Field AT-6D (the most period-authentic flying AT-6D), his TBM Avenger, and soon to be added, his F4U-4 Corsair). Having already made repaints of Ehlen's Mustang and T-6, by doing the Stearman too, I thought I'd be able to cover the full collection (only that it keeps getting bigger!).

This particular aircraft was assigned to Naval Air Station Minneapolis, which consisted of "A Base" Wold-Chamberlain Field (which is today KMSP-International, named after two Minnesota pilots killed in WWI) and "B Base" Fleming Field (the South St. Paul airport, named after a Navy pilot from South St. Paul who was posthumously awarded the congressional medal of honor for his actions in the Battle of Midway). One of the Naval aviators to train here during WWII was former president George H. W. Bush. His first introductory flight was in an NP-1, from Minneapolis, on November 21, 1942, and by February 9, 1943, he completed his primary flight training in Minneapolis, having logged 82.5 hours in that span of time and passed all checks with no extra time or rechecks.

(Some sources will only state that Bush trained at Wold-Chamberlain Field/Minneapolis, while some other sources state that he trained at Fleming Field - since it was all-encompassing, he could very well have flown from both locations. I grew up visiting Fleming Field just about every weekend, which is also where the Minnesota Wing of the Commemorative Air Force is based (with their B-25 and other WWII warbirds), and being told as a small child that a former president trained there during WWII, only added to the lore/attraction.)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/574/32315945592_3a559f24c0_o.jpg


One of the aircraft he flew during that time was Stearman 3347. George H. W. Bush flew this aircraft on January 28, 1943, and again on February 5th, 1943. This span of time took his open-cockpit flight training right through much of the coldest portion of a Minnesota winter - the average temperature on January 28, 1943 was only 16-degrees Fahrenheit. Two other Stearmans he flew during his flight training are on display at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola and at the Pearl Harbor National WWII Museum. (George H. W. Bush logbook scans courtesy of AirCorps Aviation)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5436a42be4b060f2db898777/548afe35e4b01aa5bec09d4e/5499c030e4b086d63290d523/1419363577573/?format=1000w

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5436a42be4b060f2db898777/t/54cab2afe4b049ee78a742f8/1422570182258/?format=1000w

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/454/31623992544_330d879005_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

This is the way the Minneapolis International Airport/Wold-Chamberlain Field looked during WWII when Bush was a Navy cadet. (At the time, Northwest Airlines also had its main base of operations here (which is also where the Doolittle Raiders B-25's were sent for their top secret modifications prior to the mission). During WWII, it was a hub for Naval aviator training, and post-war was a combined base of operations for both Naval Reserve and Air Force Reserve units. In 1938, Howard Hughes made a stop here during his around the world flight.)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/781/31655703423_6ba3eb15b0_o.jpg


This is a classic photo of the South St. Paul/Fleming Field airport ("B Base"), taken in 1942, as the last of the Navy hangars were still being completed (hangars which still stand today). (My childhood home would be built, a couple decades later, somewhere in the background of this photo.)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/650/32315944892_ee38c64063_b.jpg

And another photo taken of Fleming Field, in the 50's, illustrates all of the WWII-era hangars, control tower and barracks. (Unfortunately, in more recent years, the barracks were torn down (in my eyes, and absolute crime), as well as the hangar that is closest in this photo (which pre-dated WWII), where as the 7 main Navy hangars still remain in use today - the third nearest hangar is used today by the Minnesota Wing of the Commemorative Air Force.)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/774/31655707993_356687138e_b.jpg


If you install the freeware ORBX North American airports addon, it includes a very well done, very accurate depiction of the way the airport looks as of today.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/675/31623988884_ca4ee1409d_o.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/504/31655706153_39b620feed_o.jpg

[gray eagle]

John,

I like your collection of paints for the Stearman however, I am a little confused with the different designations and variations of the Stearman. I am interested in the Navy version and I know that the ARMH
had its version and then I seen this info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Stearman_Model_75 and as I read it, I wonder what are the appreciable differences (if any) between the ARMY PT-17 and the
Navy N2S version. I see that the engines in each version were basically the same R-680-8 engine vs Continental R-670 engne (they sound the same any way).....

So, they (PT17 vs N2S) both were bi-wing and made by Boeing so is it just a matter of what the Army's designation is vs the Navy's N-2S that is the difference?


Edit: I found this link for the Stearman and wonder if it would be authentic enough for the N-2S or PT17?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31hoS0g4yc

[Bomber_12th]

Yeah, there were a few different engines used on the aircraft throughout production, which provided some of the reason for the different designations, although each of the engines produced about the same amount of power (roughly 220 hp each) and all of the aircraft, no matter their Navy/Army designations, were "Model 75's". During WWII, the Navy and Army both had their own ways of designating the exact same aircraft (like the AT-6 vs. SNJ, A-24 vs. SBD, A-25 vs. SB2C, etc.), even when they were manufactured side-by-side/from the same production block. For the Navy, there was the N2S-1, -2, -3, -4, and -5. For the Army, there was the PT-13, PT-17, PT-18, and PT-27 (designation given to a USAAF contract sent to Canada), as well as a select few other derivatives.

The N2S-1, like the George Bush Stearman is, is a very early variant, so they didn't even have an electrical system on-board (no lights, no electric starter, no radios, etc.) - that came on the later variants. There were of course other production differences/improvements throughout the manufacturing of these aircraft, such as different cockpit and panel/instrument arrangements.

The Stearman Wiki page shows that the N2S-2, N2S-5 and PT-13 were powered by Lycoming R-680's. The N2S-1, N2S-3, N2S-4, PT-17 and PT-27 were powered by Continental R-670's, and the PT-18 fitted with a Jacobs R-755. This was likely due, as can be referenced in many other circumstances during wartime aircraft production, to the production of engines not keeping pace with the production of the aircraft (in other words, Boeing could produce more Stearmans in a given amount of time than manufacturers like Lycoming and Continental could produce the specific engines). With either engine, you're looking at the same amount of power/performance, with about 220 hp. Post-war, a number of Stearmans have been modified with bigger engines, producing as much as 450 hp up front (this is why when John Mohr performed his amazing aerobatic routine in his Stearman, it was always highlighted as being a "stock Stearman", since it still retained its original 220 hp Continental engine, unlike most of the other Stearmans performing aerobatics at airshows).

[gray eagle]

John,

I am thinking about getting the VS PT17 Vol 1 but need to know if the cockpit panel turns red like my attached picture when you turn on the VS PT17 panel and navigation lights?
I have the GAS PT75 version and when I turn on the lights, all of the panel turns red. Would like to see a pic of cockpit panel of your VS PT17 when panel lights are on for comparison.
It would of been nice if just the instruments were illuminated instead of a red panel.


Lights on panel is red:

https://s23.postimg.org/9s8lccj4r/red.jpg


Light off panel is black:

https://s23.postimg.org/xt60pa3ez/black.jpg

[WarHorse47]

The GAS cockpit and lighting seems more modern. The VS night cockpit is more authentic IMHO.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2017-1-22_18-25-55-932_zpsy8zgzk8h.jpg

The cockpit lighting for the VS Stearman is variable. This shows the maximum lighting available. Looks better in the sim, BTW.

And yes, the soundpack from Immersive Audio for the Stearman is great. It adds a whole new dimension for both the Vertical Studios and the GAS Stearmans.

[ryanbatc]

Fantastic history lesson, I love that diagram too. I grew up in south MSP just north of Ry 12L. Later we moved to the south suburbs and you can still drive by the old munitions storage (or so I think it was) in Rosemount, MN (referred to as "Gopher" on that diagram). My late grandfather flew Aeronca Champs out of MIC and then went to war in Korea. I wonder if there is a northern half to that diagram anywhere? Anyway I think he's the person responsible for making me excited about aviation. And also my father who frequently took us to the old Post Road, and the road that used to wind through MSP airport before they closed it, and started on the new runway. I think Post road was a dirt road in the late 80's? Or maybe it wasn't I just can't recall I was a little guy then.

[dhasdell]

Thanks for those GAS cockpit pics. I am in the opposite position to gray-eagle: I am thinking about getting the GAS Stearman because although I have the VS I find the cockpit very sparse indeed - no turn and slip, no climb/descent, not even a clock, just blanks on the panel, and I simply cannot believe that's authentic.

[DaveB]

Jump into the front cockpit Dave and you'll find it slightly better appointed. Agree with you though. A clock and a turn & slip don't seem of much use in the front when the pilot is in the back.

ATB
DaveB:)

[dhasdell]

A clock and a turn & slip don't seem of much use in the front when the pilot is in the back.
Quite. Presumably the instructor was in the front seat, as solo flight was from the rear, so did pupils really learn to fly without even basic instruments? It's a shame, because apart from that the Stearman is a real favourite of mine.

[DaveB]

Well mate.. looking around the interweb at shots of real Stearman's.. both cockpits seem to have a full set of instruments. The only shot I found of a panel with blanks happened to be in the front which kind'a makes sense. I think VS dropped a clanger!
ATB
DaveB:)

[Flapsfull]

John,

I like your collection of paints for the Stearman however, I am a little confused with the different designations and variations of the Stearman. I am interested in the Navy version and I know that the ARMH
had its version and then I seen this info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Stearman_Model_75 and as I read it, I wonder what are the appreciable differences (if any) between the ARMY PT-17 and the
Navy N2S version. I see that the engines in each version were basically the same R-680-8 engine vs Continental R-670 engne (they sound the same any way).....

So, they (PT17 vs N2S) both were bi-wing and made by Boeing so is it just a matter of what the Army's designation is vs the Navy's N-2S that is the difference?



Gray eagle,

one of the differences between the army and navy versions is mentioned in the AVSIM review of the Golden Age Simulation Stearman model:
I can't vouch for the accuracy of the statement, but it seems the army version had a steerable tailwheel , while the navy went for a
free castoring tailwheel with a lock mechanism.

Here's a link to that review, the difference is mentioned somewhere in the middle of it.
http://avsim.com/pages/1209/GAS/Stearman.htm

Hope that helps,

Kind regards,

Oliver

[WarHorse47]

Well mate.. looking around the interweb at shots of real Stearman's.. both cockpits seem to have a full set of instruments. The only shot I found of a panel with blanks happened to be in the front which kind'a makes sense. I think VS dropped a clanger!
ATB
DaveB:)Well, yes. It appears that the VS version has a few missing instruments. Still, its fun to fly and I appreciate the additional repaints by Bomber_12th.

I like the GAS as well, but it is limited on available repaints and it lacks an amphib model. There are times I like to take the VS amphibian up to Canada to explore the scenery.

--WH

[gray eagle]

I wish there was a way to do away with that red panel. I've sent a email to the GAS support questioning this and hoping for a patch or work around to eliminate the red panel.




Well, yes. It appears that the VS version has a few missing instruments. Still, its fun to fly and I appreciate the additional repaints by Bomber_12th.

I like the GAS as well, but it is limited on available repaints and it lacks an amphib model. There are times I like to take the VS amphibian up to Canada to explore the scenery.

--WH

[DaveB]

Is it not just the VC lighting? If you don't use the 'L' key for your lights.. you should be able to not switch the panel lights on and thus avoid the red panel. I wouldn't want to be flying that thing at night anyway!!:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

There are two toggle switches on the right side of the cockpit; one is for instruments and the other is for nav lights. Dark night scenario, instrument switch = off = a very dark panel and no instruments visible.
Instrument lights toggled on = a very red glowing panel. So, I think this feature was wired that way but I'm interested in GAS's take on this issue and why they did it this way.




Is it not just the VC lighting? If you don't use the 'L' key for your lights.. you should be able to not switch the panel lights on and thus avoid the red panel. I wouldn't want to be flying that thing at night anyway!!:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

OK. To have a red pedestal light for cockpit lighting on an aircraft of this age is common but I have to say it does look a bit too bright on the GAS model. You would (in reality) be able to turn either a rheostat or the end of the light to control how much light you wanted to see.. something you obviously can't do with this model. Without having the model at hand to fiddle with, It's difficult to advise what to do but as you've opened a ticket with GAS.. you're well placed to get a good answer;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Just a thought Butch..

Have a look at the panel.cfg and see if there's a Day/Night/Luminous section at the bottom. You can control (to some degree) how the panel and instruments are displayed by changing the values on each line. You'd be looking at the Night line in particular. If you have a similar model (similar lighting that is) that you like.. you could change the Night and/or Luminous sections on the GAS model panel.cfg to match. It's worth a try:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[gribouil]

Stearman N2S-3, N44JP, owned/operated by John Parish of St. Louis, Missouri. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 43576, was based (at least for a time) at NAS Ottumwa, Iowa in 1944 and 1945. The aircraft was acquired by the Parish family in 1980 and was sent to RARE Aircraft for restoration around 2009, where it was completely restored to award-winning condition, completed in 2011. The aircraft is painted in authentic U.S. Navy markings circa early 1943.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/726/32326747261_0bb300fc07_o.jpg

And this is the only one I really wanted to do at the start of it all, back in October...

Stearman N2S-1, N50061, owned/operated by Paul Ehlen and based at the Wings of the North Museum at Flying Cloud Airport, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 3347, is one of five Stearmans known to still exist that were flown by President George H. W. Bush as a cadet in the Navy. He flew this aircraft while training in the cold Minnesota winter at Wold-Chamberlain Airfield, Naval Air Station Minneapolis (modern-day KMSP), in January and early February 1943. The aircraft was sent to AirCorps Aviation for ground-up restoration in 2014, and emerged in 2015 as one of, if not the most period-authentic restored Stearmans to-date, restored to just as it was in 1943 (no electric starter (only hand-crank start) and no radios of any sort). The aircraft won "Best Stearman" at Oshkosh 2015.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/331/32297895672_1962c77ed6_o.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/327/32326731761_47235ab0bf_o.jpg

Hi John,
after seeing all these wonderful biplane repaints, I wonder if you would be interesting in repainting Anthony Lynch fantastic Tiger Moth like this:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46575&stc=1

Best regards,

Stéph.

[gray eagle]

What's the procedure to climb into the front seat of the GAS Stearman 75?





Jump into the front cockpit Dave and you'll find it slightly better appointed. Agree with you though. A clock and a turn & slip don't seem of much use in the front when the pilot is in the back.

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Try the 'A' key Butch.

ATB
DaveB:)

[mikewmac]

For anyone that doesn't have the VS PT17 Stearman Model 75 Volume 1 for FSX, the Flightstore in the UK has it on sale at the following links:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009XCQNIE/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_3p_dp_1

or

https://www.flightstore.co.uk/dvds-flight-sims-c346/flight-sim-software-c499/microsoft-fsx-add-ons-c814/aircraft-fsx-c532/light-aircraft-for-fsx-c538/pt17-stearman-model-75-p3154

I bought it at the former and it only cost me $13.91 including shipping to the USA.

PS: They also have some of the other VS aircraft for FSX on sale at both locations.

[gray eagle]

That didn't work for me, what did work was CTRL + Backspace keys.




Try the 'A' key Butch.

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Blimey.. that's an unusual combination. No wonder you couldn't find it:dizzy:

ATB
DaveB:)

[rgatkinson]

Thank you, John. Amazing repaints - as always - that are a joy to behold. :applause:

Taff :mixed-smiley-010:

[WarHorse47]

46578
Well, yes. It appears that the VS version has a few missing instruments. --WHWhoops. My bad. I wasn't looking at the front cockpit.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2017-1-23_13-52-24-733_zpsqe3i39sd.jpg

If it's of any interest, the VS Stearman has more animations than the GAS Stearman such as the trainee in the front cockpit, etc. Again, both are great to have.

[DaveB]

Butch..

I've just realised that the keystrokes you've been told to get into the front cockpit are default 'View Forward'. Not sure if this will help any but this is the camera view to do the same in the VS model..

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "FRONT Seat"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-1E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.0, 0.00, 1.0
InitialPbh=8, 0, 0

You might be able to work it into the GAS camera defs to give you something a little more useable;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

That works, now do I need one of these cameras to add in order to revert to pilot (back seat)? or....?
I found in the lights section of the aircraft cfg file a lights section and played around with one of the settings and managed to squelch the back seat red panel (red one in front still came on.

I think I might get the VS version tomorrow from PC Aviation - they sent me a coupon and there is a Tues 10% discount to boot; that way, I can add some of John's repaints (they look sharp)
and try them out. I would have a duplicity of Stearmans but hey, I can try out both and go from there. Thanks for your help Dave....:encouragement:





Butch..

I've just realised that the keystrokes you've been told to get into the front cockpit are default 'View Forward'. Not sure if this will help any but this is the camera view to do the same in the VS model..

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "FRONT Seat"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-1E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.0, 0.00, 1.0
InitialPbh=8, 0, 0

You might be able to work it into the GAS camera defs to give you something a little more useable;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

I like the views you posted here. I may add the VS version tomorrow - BTW, that would be a bummer if you had a bird strike on the fuel tube hanging down from the upper wing there, and avgas would not
taste too good. :biggrin-new:


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46578&stc=1Whoops. My bad. I wasn't looking at the front cockpit.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2017-1-23_13-52-24-733_zpsqe3i39sd.jpg

If it's of any interest, the VS Stearman has more animations than the GAS Stearman such as the trainee in the front cockpit, etc. Again, both are great to have.

[Bomber_12th]

With regard to the Vertigo Studios Stearman cockpits/instruments, it is accurate to the preserved/unrestored N2S-5 at the Smithsonian. There doesn't seem to have been a very standard setup when it comes to Stearman instrument panels and instruments themselves, which could have been determined by which individual role they were used in (solo, dual, instrument, night, etc.). Probably in a setup like this, it teaches and can test the trainee in the backseat to fly and coordinate the aircraft simply by feel, and the instructor in the front has what he needs to confirm if the pilot is flying properly coordinated or not.

(On a somewhat related note, I've read some stories about some of the first P-51B's to arrive in England, that when they were picked-up by their pilots from the depots, they only had mostly bare open holes in the panels with only a basic few instruments actually installed).

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/683/32368356341_f02087e8ce_b.jpg

By comparison, here is a photo I took of the restored cockpit of the George Bush N2S-1 Stearman (a much earlier variant, and restored to exact original specifications). Other than the presence of the turn/slip indicator in the back panel, the rest of the instrumentation is the same. This particular Stearman, we know thanks to Bush's logbook entries, was used for solo flying during its original training days (it couldn't be used for night training, as being as early as it was, it doesn't have any lights).

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5610/30482668166_3bedab2d51_b.jpg

[Bomber_12th]

BTW, that would be a bummer if you had a bird strike on the fuel tube hanging down from the upper wing there, and avgas would not taste too good. :biggrin-new:

That tends to be quoted as being the biggest fear of all Stearman pilots.

[WarHorse47]

Love 'em.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/Museums/Palm%20Springs%2003-07-2015/DSC02808_zpsyk9yloi1.jpg

This is my current desktop image. Taken at the Palm Springs Air Museum in 2015 during one of our vacations down south. :engel016:

[MustangL2W]

I too would like to see a Nav Light Fix.

[Mejborn]

Lovely effort hats off.
Now I want to start building my 1/72 Revell kit.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2mgkyz7.jpg

[dhasdell]

it (lack of instruments) teaches and can test the trainee in the backseat to fly and coordinate the aircraft simply by feel
Possibly, but I rather doubt it. After all, relying on seat of the pants feel rather than instruments is very much discouraged, and use of a turn and slip indicator is pretty important for judging the accuracy or otherwise of turns. Maybe a pupil could learn to judge the accuracy by the feel of the wind on his cheek, but the instrument would still be necessary while learning how it ought to feel in a good turn.

On another matter, would you IM me please, John, as I have some info I think you'd like.

[Motormouse]

Possibly, but I rather doubt it. After all, relying on seat of the pants feel rather than instruments is very much discouraged, and use of a turn and slip indicator is pretty important for judging the accuracy or otherwise of turns. Maybe a pupil could learn to judge the accuracy by the feel of the wind on his cheek, but the instrument would still be necessary while learning how it ought to feel in a good turn.

On another matter, would you IM me please, John, as I have some info I think you'd like.

I'm guessing a yaw vane or similar would most likely be present if no actual turn/slip gauge.

John, how about turning your paintbrushes this way --> http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galleries/
(I've met the lady in person :) )

ttfn

Pete

[DaveB]

With regard to the Vertigo Studios Stearman cockpits/instruments, it is accurate to the preserved/unrestored N2S-5 at the Smithsonian. There doesn't seem to have been a very standard setup when it comes to Stearman instrument panels

When I posted that the shots I'd seen online all seemed to have a full set of instruments in the back.. I was fully aware that someone would post a shot to the contrary!!:biggrin-new: In the words of Bruce Hornsby.. that's just the way it is;)

I think I'd tend to agree with DaveH that teaching a new pilot to fly by feel wouldn't be considered good practice (at best) but back in the day.. who the hell knows. Likewise.. I think it's more likely (at least more desirable) to have a full set in the back which is where the pilot would be for solo flight IF that's all the aircraft is to be used for. The front could be stripped thereby saving a few dollars.

I do agree though that buyers could specify what instrument fit they required.

One thing I'm always cautious of though is not only restored museum pieces but museum pieces in general. Having been involved with Brooklands museum for years and have seen what is 'on view' at others.. I know not to trust what I see with my own eyes as being accurate.

@Butch.. no, you don't need another camera view to get back to the rear seat. I don't know where you fitted the new one in but it should be a matter of cycling through the views to get back;)
ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

Just got the VS Stearman and had choice of two files to install 2048 or 4096. I went with the 4096 and it seems to work okay but what are the differences between the two files?

[gray eagle]

How did you get a pilot in the front seat?



http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46578&stc=1Whoops. My bad. I wasn't looking at the front cockpit.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/WarHorse47/2017-1-23_13-52-24-733_zpsqe3i39sd.jpg

If it's of any interest, the VS Stearman has more animations than the GAS Stearman such as the trainee in the front cockpit, etc. Again, both are great to have.

[DaveB]

Butch..

In the VS Stearman.. you use Shift+E+3. Unfortunately.. these combinations never work for me:dizzy:

The 2048 files are now considered standard.. the 4096 are 'HD'. File sizes are double so if you notice a drop in FR's.. drop the smaller ones back.

The manual will give you all details of what can and cannot be done and includes checklists and perf charts.

ATB
DaveB:)

[big-mike]

Thank you very much John for these amazing paints.
Mike

[Bomber_12th]

The VS Stearman panels/instruments situation can be argued all day and night - it doesn't do me any good or bad. I have no ties to the company or product, I just made some repaints for it, in-case anybody who already has the model and enjoys it would wish to add a few extra flavors, not yet covered by the default paint schemes or other repainters. I have about a dozen more Stearman repaints to upload when the time is right (which includes the "Spirit of Artemis" Tracy Curtis-Taylor Stearman (which, unfortunately however crashed/was severely damaged last year) and a post-WWII USAF Stearman (which the restoration is not yet complete, but I have all that I need for reference to the paint scheme), as well as mostly a bunch of civilian schemes). With regard to texture resolution, with the original VS product, you are given the choice of either (compressed) 2048x2048 resolution textures or (original) 4096x4096 resolution textures. With my repaints, you only get 4096x4096.

With regard to aircraft on display at the Smithsonian, you will not find another museum in the world which strives as hard as they do for absolute accuracy/originality. Knowing the Stearman they have, like most of their exhibits, it remains as a time-capsule, untouched (but cleaned/conserved) since original military use. By posting the image that I did of the Smithsonian Stearman cockpit, it simply clarifies that there is a precedent for why the VS Stearman panels/instruments are the way they are (just one of any number of layouts they could have gone for, either historically correct or modern - with the VS Stearman, you also only get one engine type modeled, when there have been several different types fitted during WWII and the present).

This photo of the rear cockpit, from an original N2S-5 manual, matches the exact same configuration of the rear cockpit of the Smithsonian N2S-5 (and the VS Stearman). I have yet to try, but I would assume, if you're flying solo, if you really needed to look at a bank/slip indicator, you'd be able to lean forward enough to see the one in the front cockpit.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/451/32350292272_7aeed78da2_o.jpg

[DaveB]

Thanks for the cockpit phot John. So.. no clangers from VS and the Smithsonians reputation remains intact.;)

ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

When I first installed the VS stearman in 4096 mode, I only had one dude (in back seat), Then I reverted to the 2048 version and saw two dudes (one student & one pilot).
I was using John's Bush Livery... Now I was in the back seat and could see the back of the students head - animated and in the backseat view I could see feet/legs detail
and what was wierd, the backseat pilots microphone bobbing around from left to right.

Now, I took out the 2048 version and put the 4096 mode back in and all I see is a back seat pilot (In all liveries I might add) Yet I see in a post above a student driver in the front seat. Is that
specially selects from some menu?

Is there some sort of keys/buttons that make two animated people show up in their seats cause now all I am seeing is a pilot in the back seat.

BTW those special keys only work the GPS and that's about it.....I've looked at the PDF instruction manual (there are two identical PDF's) in both the N2S and 300 folder......

[Motormouse]

I have about a dozen more Stearman repaints to upload when the time is right (which includes the "Spirit of Artemis" Tracy Curtis-Taylor Stearman (which, unfortunately however crashed/was severely damaged last year)





As was reported here in May 2016.. http://www.flyingmag.com/transcontinental-open-biplane-flight-cut-short-by-crash
but it was back together again by the time of Farnborough Airshow last July http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galleries/goodwood16/

Looking forward to your rendition John.

ttfn

Pete

[pfflyers]

Shift+E+3 works for me to get a pilot in the fwd cockpit.

[dhasdell]

Shift+E+3 works for me to get a pilot in the fwd cockpit.

And Shift+E+2 and Shift+E+4 make the pilots raise and lower their goggles.

[gray eagle]

I really had to have the persistence to work the SHIFT +E+3 key to get that student pilot to load, and when it did then a little more details shows i.e. see picture attached.
The microphone goes in the direction of where the student is looking (left right) and I guess that is kosher. Funny thing though, Before I loaded the student pilot ala SHIFT + E + 3
key there were no legs to look at. I'll try those other key combos to see if I can make the goggle action happen. Notice the two brown things between the pilots feet? What is that?
BTW, when I first tried the SHIFT + E + 3 key I could see a main exit open/close dialog in the upper left screen.

https://s23.postimg.org/sj7y05q97/pilot.jpg




And Shift+E+2 and Shift+E+4 make the pilots raise and lower their goggles.

[DaveB]

Yup.. this is the thing about combination keystrokes. If you don't get it right.. you don't get what you expect to see!! A lot of the time, it doesn't work for me so I put a door gauge into such panels to do the work for me:biggrin-new: Press the shift key and hold.. then the E key and hold then quickly release the shift and hit the 3. Shift+E+3 doesn't mean all 3 keys at the same time:dizzy:

ATB
DaveB:)

[Bomber_12th]

For those that don't read my descriptions, you might be surprised to find that this aircraft, despite the N-registration, is based in the UK, and has been since the early-mid 90's. Paul Bennett, the owner, also restored the aircraft as it appears today (his first of several that he has restored). He is the subject of one of the episodes of "Plane Resurrection", which can currently be watched on Netflix, and this particular Stearman is shown and talked about a bit (including how Mr. Bennett won first place in the very first judging contest he entered this aircraft in).

The reason the aircraft has the specific finish it does, is due fully to historically-authentic accuracy. During original factory production, all of the aluminum panels were anodized for protection from corrosion. When the switch was made to standardizing the finish on Stearmans (and other trainers) to just silver, the anodized aluminum panels weren't painted and were just left as-is. Thus, although all of the fabric surfaces are finished in silver dope, most of all of the aluminum panels have the darker (and somewhat yellow/red/purplish in hue, under different lighting conditions) finish from the anodizing process.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/497/32130794980_96e4871fdc_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/394/32130798250_f76ef64598_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/409/32130800320_9211c5821a_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/566/32130802480_af4b1ca679_o.jpg

[MustangL2W]

John,
I have always had a thing for the Silver USAAF PT-13D/PT-17's, and you really made your versions of them look AMAZING!!! I don't know if you have seen the PT-13D on display at the National Museum of the Air Force. They did a great job on restoring theirs....but those metal surfaces were all painted a light Gray instead of left bare like yours. I prefer the correctness of your versions....although I think that they did start painting to prevent corrosion later?? The contrast of the two (Metal over the Fabric surfaces)on the Vertigo model looks fantastic that way!! Also on both were the Navy and Air Corps markings so they could be delivered right from the factory to either branch and pressed into service. N53549 the Jago Stearman is the perfect example of that. I am just enamored by your repaints and Love the History that you teach with each and every one of them! Have you given any thought of doing any T-50's??

[Bomber_12th]

Thank you for the kind words, as always, Jim! Regarding the Milviz Bobcat, I would love to make some repaints for it, but I'm still waiting/hoping for a paintkit to be released for it first. "Spirit of '43" is based quite near to me, and is the only flying example I've seen in person (though I've seen a few different project examples first-hand in recent years), so it will be one of the must-haves. Really my favorite paint schemes for the Bobcat are the plethora of artsy/stylish two-tone 50's/60's civilian schemes.

Pete, thank you for the update on the "Spirit of Artemis" Stearman! The last bit of news I had seen/read about the aircraft was of that crash last spring (and I was surprised to find so much time has passed since then, as I had seemed to recall it happening not that long ago), and I figured it was still being repaired (as would be quite typical, considering the amount of damage). I have read further to find out that they were able to get the wrecked aircraft back to the company that built/restored it originally, quite soon after the incident, and that particular company, which specializes in Stearman restorations, had enough already pre-existing (new set of wings, landing gear, etc.) to get the aircraft quickly rebuilt within several weeks time.

[DaveB]

Some of us actually DO read what you type John so I'd already pulled N38940;) I actually found a Priory Farm scenery to go with it too..

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/prioryfarm.jpg
This is from Alf's Farm Strips#20.

Does he actually fly from Priory Farm or does he use Tibenham?
ATB
DaveB:)

[Bomber_12th]

Thank you Dave for the tip about the scenery!

N38940 is indeed based at Priory Farm, and flies from the grass strip there. The yellow Stearman (N75TQ) in the background of this photo, taken at Priory Farm, was the latest Stearman that Paul Bennett had completed (for a customer) when this photo was taken in 2008, and is the main subject of the Plane Resurrection episode on the Stearman/Paul Bennett. G-BAVO, the other UK-based example I've released so-far, has also passed through Bennett's workshop at least twice (restored in the 90's, and again following an accident in 2004). Here is a selection of images of the various Stearmans which have been restored by Paul Bennett at Priory Farm, a number of which more will surely be available for the VS Stearman in due time (one of the latest, G-NZSS, another stunner): https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigglessnaps/albums/72157620620724966

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3301/3663990401_5b3d7e225d_b.jpg

BTW, as one small indicator of just how many Stearmans there still are out there, there are more than 20 Stearmans that are currently/recently been registered to the same name/single entity of "EASTERN STEARMAN INC TRUSTEE" as N38940 is, alone.

[gray eagle]

Dave,

I like that scenery you are flying at, where can I find it and that Tibenham you mentioned? Also, where is the airport in the splash install screen for the VS Stearman? Is it available somewhere?
Edit: I found this one... is this where you are flying at in pic below https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/8514/fsx-alfs-uk-airfields-volume-20/



Some of us actually DO read what you type John so I'd already pulled N38940;) I actually found a Priory Farm scenery to go with it too..

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/prioryfarm.jpg
This is from Alf's Farm Strips#20.

Does he actually fly from Priory Farm or does he use Tibenham?
ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Cheers John:encouragement:

Good grief.. that Flicker collection is a right eye-opener. What a great setting too:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

If anyone has the collection of repaints that were available from the VStudios for their Stearman, please send me a pm.

I managed to find what looks like a vstudio site where I could register and after completing their questionaire, was told I would get a response (I wonder if or when?).

I do know that they are not supporting any addons they sold from their online store (UK).

[gray eagle]

WH,

I got your PM this morning and thanks for the help. :encouragement:




Wow. Thanks John. Looking forward to these... :encouragement:

Had to get the stopwatch out to make sure each was downloaded outside the 60 second constraint. :dizzy:

[DaveB]

Sri Butch.. I forgot about this and was on earlies today!! I only have the Utterly and Guinot paints. If anyone has the Crunchie paint lying unused.. I'd appreciate a copy. Doesn't matter about the res:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[dhasdell]

I've never found the Crunchie either, but I am having a great time with JT's repaints, and have hardly flown anything else since I started installing them. Thanks again.

David

[MustangL2W]

Okay.... I'll bite. What the heck is 'Crunchie?'

[dhasdell]

"Bite" is right. It's a highly addictive chocolate bar, whose makers sponsored a display pair of Stearmen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchie)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJHWg76M-FU

[DaveB]

I remember them as the first major sponsors Dave though I could be wrong. Next came Utterly Butterly and currently.. Guinot.

EDIT: Guinot may now be Breitling!!

ATB
DaveB:)

[dhasdell]

I remember them as the first major sponsors Dave
I think Rothmans were earlier than Crunchie - they had an aerobatic team of Stampes in the '70s. I literally did have the t-shirt!

[DaveB]

hahahahahaha..

Perhaps you're right mate. I remember the Rothmans Stampes but only really got 'into' the airshow thing later. All this was pre-digital and I don't fancy going up the loft to dig my phots out:dizzy:

ATB
DaveB:)

[DaveB]

Dave..

I've been digging around for Rothmans Stearmans and can't find anything. After the Stampes.. the Rothmans team went to the Pitts Special. Both were aerobatic display teams rather than wingwalking displays.

ATB
DaveB:)

[gray eagle]

I now have the five free addons that some one graciously sent me however, they are missing
the data for each of them that you add to the aircraft.cfg file in other words flightsim.xx etc...

If any one that has the following addons for the VS Studioj Stearman please PM the info to me.

• Utterly Butterly
• Guinot
• Crunchie
• Red Baron
• God Bless America

[dhasdell]

Dave - sorry, I don't think they used Stearmen. I was on about the sponsorship

gray-eagle - I think the entries come as part of the default aircraft.cfg. They are in mine, and I don't have the downloads.

[gray eagle]

From what I can tell, they were extras and the link to the forums is down.

Not sure if these go to the N2s or the 300 folder.


https://s29.postimg.org/qm2mmglef/custom.jpg
Edit: I found this nugget while surfin for any info on the above addons:

The Aircraft.cfg has these listed, but they show up as missing texture maps because they are to be installed separately.



Dave - sorry, I don't think they used Stearmen. I was on about the sponsorship

gray-eagle - I think the entries come as part of the default aircraft.cfg. They are in mine, and I don't have the downloads.

[dhasdell]

They go into the 300 folder, and once installed the default aircraft.cfg ought to recognise them.