Milton's Spartan converted to FSX

[Willy]

I've been meddling about with Milton's Spartan that was converted to FSX native and that 2x size yoke is starting to get to me. If it can be turned off, I haven't found a way to do it. I can't read but one or two gauges for the thing without moving it around and in flight that might not be so good for one's future health prospects.

Any idea on how to lose the yoke?

[falcon409]

Willy I haven't flown the FSX version in quite a while but I thought there was a click spot somewhere on the panel that removes the yoke.

[spokes2112]

Spoiler ? "/"

[Daube]

I flew that Spartan but I don't remember about the oversized yoke...
Is there any screenshot showing it ?

EDIT: disregard, I found an old screen I did and indeed, the yoke is huge. Sorry.

[Willy]

Spoiler / was no joy nor \ or any other key combo I could think of. But if I "move the seat" up and forward a bit it's more out of the way.

Other than the yoke, I'm quite happy with it.

[SpaceWeevil]

Willy, I'm not aware of any way to hide the yoke but I think the default eyepoint is set too low, which does give you an eyeful of yoke. I find it much better raised about 5 or 6 presses of the 'Eyepoint (Move Up)' key, whatever you have that mapped to. You can either work out the corresponding eyepoint changes in the aircraft.cfg or set it by hand and save the flight. The distance from the panel feels OK to me. Lovely old bird!

[heywooood]

yes I also would move the viewpoint up and to the right..otherwise the YOKE is happening and the nose or upper cowl appears too far over..slight 'banana bend' to the left to my eye...sliding right in the seat seems to mitigate that a bit

The aircraft itself is a beauty and I love the engine sound file..

FYI - this plane has a big Yoke ring IRL...

[Willy]

One of the things I'm doing with it is I've taken the paint kit and am reworking it to suit me and how I sling pixels. It's one of those, the more I do, the more I find to do with it things. A simple finishing up of a paint I started a while back has turned into new metal, panel lines and rivets. But in the process, it's getting a bit more detail than what it had before. Darn OCD

[heywooood]

well I think I speak for the group when I say I sure would like to see a progress shot or two - when you get 'round to it that is

[Willy]

The paint scheme has evolved quite a bit as I've went along as well. I decided that the Spartan fuselage isn't proportioned right for a Gee Bee type scheme, so I took it and made some changes that fit the Spartan better I think.

I'll try to get some shots next time I have it in the sim. Right now what I started with a few days ago is more advanced than where it's at now.

[Willy]

Holding off on the paint while I get the rest squared away. 1st look at what eventually be the bare metal. I just polished up the cowling to see what direction the polishing will need to take.

Darn spinner isn't wanting play nice and polish up.

[heywooood]

looks like a great start though, thanks for posting...much appreciated

looks like most living examples of this aircraft wear a highly polished skin, except where they are fabric covered

[Willy]

There's a couple of painted ones out there. The shiny ones just get more attention.

[heywooood]

well...yeah!..just look at that shiny bullet

[Daube]

The FSX conversion of Milton's Spartan has been one of my very favorite freeware aircrafts for a long time :)
Coupled with the alternative envmap texture from Bananabob, it's such a beautiful plane !

http://sapdaube.free.fr/fsx/daube_image1886.jpg

http://sapdaube.free.fr/fsx/daube_image2107.jpg

http://sapdaube.free.fr/fsx/daube_image2111.jpg

[thunder100]

The FSX conversion of Milton's Spartan has been one of my very favorite freeware aircrafts for a long time :)
Coupled with the alternative envmap texture from Bananabob, it's such a beautiful plane !





http://sapdaube.free.fr/fsx/daube_image2111.jpg

And for its time it was well advanced

First flight March 8, 1936

Boeing Peashooter 20. März 1932

or more close Curtiss Wright CW-19-->1935

Roland

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43575&stc=1

[falcon409]

Briefly going back to the visibility problem you had Willy. I use TrackIR and if you don't this may vary slightly, but here is the setting I use in the aircraft.cfg file as a permanent fix:

[Views]
eyepoint= -.1, -.8, 2.3

I know using the key strokes to adjust will work in the sim, but in your case, you want something that is the same every time you load that airplane and keystroke adjustments are reset every time you load. . .this will ensure that view remains constant. With those settings, this is the view I have looking forward:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/ejwells409/Cockpit_View.jpg

[Willy]

Great Ed! I'm on way to use it! Thanks a bunch!

[Willy]

Ah yes, much better! Thanks again Ed.

[doublecool]

For yoke removal click spot next to compass

however Iam glade Ed posted his new view points

[falcon409]

For yoke removal click spot next to compass

however Iam glade Ed posted his new view points
Well done DC. I posted that first thing, but then when I loaded the airplane and went in to test I couldn't find it again. Hadn't flown her in over a year so I figured I'd gotten it wrong and there really wasn't a clickspot. Phew, glad to know my brain still functions, even if it is on a lower level than it used to, lol

[Willy]

For yoke removal click spot next to compass

however Iam glade Ed posted his new view points

Look Ma! No Yoke!!

Thanks dc! And for those who want to know perzactly where the spot is. To the left of the magnetic compass on the upper center windshield frame. I'm like Ed. I was thinking there was one, but couldn't remember where and couldn't find it in the manual. Now we know!

[AussieMan]

Can someone post the link to the FSX conversion please.

[Willy]

Pat, where I got it from the site is gone. But Roger had it in a package of updates he did that are in the library here.

Speaking of updates, I got a little sidetracked from the new paint I'm doing with some "experimenting" with different ideas on an old one I was wanting to update. Where it used to be white, it's now got nice and shiny bare metal and I added a few details. I kind of like it. I need to find out who did the original so I can ask permission to upload it.

[gaab]

Can someone post the link to the FSX conversion please.

I found it here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=34&linkid=4768

The Spartan Executive was originally realeased for Fs8 and Fs9 by Milton Shupe and his design team. The aircraft was updated with permission, to FsX SP2 as a fully compliant FsX model by Mike Allen Richards and is offered for download with the permission of both parties. Also a selection of repaints are offered in this download which were uploaded here when the FsX Spartan was first released. All the repainters were contacted for permission at that time.

Enjoy - Gérard

[Roger]

Oops...late to this and thanks gaab for posting the link:ernaehrung004:

[AussieMan]

Thanks Gaab.

[PeteHam]

Thanks Willy for bringing this beauty to our attention. :applause:

The Spartan was always a favorite of mine in FS9 and now I've just installed it into FSX:SE and I love it. :jump:

Pete.