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cavaricooper
July 26th, 2016, 02:48
Now that Gordon has so graciously released the PK I'll begin with a request for the RAE livery re-do please!

Best- C

ce_zeta
July 26th, 2016, 03:03
Some ideas for repainters:

http://i.imgur.com/82912Tx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vyf45Il.jpg

Swedish Air Force:
http://www.cloud9photography.us/Military-Aviation/Swedish-Air-Force-Military/i-7GjXnnC/A

Jafo
July 26th, 2016, 04:57
This one's on the go....though I'll have to get out the Silvo....the real Gooney's highly polished...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40894&stc=1

Edit....found some Brasso....

Need to redo alphas and specs once all the details are done...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40897&stc=1

Jafo
July 26th, 2016, 18:07
Little bits to do...but VH-OVM is about done....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40916&stc=1

cavaricooper
July 27th, 2016, 02:30
Looking lovely!

C

degeus
July 27th, 2016, 10:20
Hello,
Where can I find the instructions on how to do that?
with kind regards,
Piet de Geus

Alky
July 27th, 2016, 10:45
Where can I find the instructions on how to do that?

Get a paint program that supports layers, download paint-kit... practice. :)

Duckie
July 27th, 2016, 17:23
Convert FS9 Skins...

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/ARS1_zpsmcfny3bd.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/ARS3_zpsfddp6sg0.jpg

http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/Duckie1021/media/ARS4_zpsvmgjfra5.jpg

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/Duckie1021/ARS2_zpstsvhgkn7.jpg

Ian Warren
July 27th, 2016, 17:39
NICE ONE DUCKS .. that dose look supreme :encouragement:

Duckie
July 27th, 2016, 17:50
Thanks Ian. Not too bad for straight conversion with no tweaks. But they do need tweaking and some corrective paint mods in areas which were not known to me when I did these a couple years ago.

Steve

Ian Warren
July 27th, 2016, 21:32
So Quick time pass's, still a gorgeous paint job and livery :very_drunk:

ce_zeta
July 28th, 2016, 01:49
Superb Duckie.

One question about the conversion. You are copying the layers in the new pantkit or converting all the .bmps?

Duckie
July 28th, 2016, 05:30
Superb Duckie.

One question about the conversion. You are copying the layers in the new pantkit or converting all the .bmps?

The original FS9 textures for this aircraft were created in 32bit bmp format. Using dxtbmp I converted the relative textures to dxt5 dds format.

degeus
July 28th, 2016, 06:44
Get a paint program that supports layers, download paint-kit... practice. :)
Hello Alky,
I'll take this for a possibility when that "conversion"document does not show up,
Thanks,
Piet

Ron Attwood
July 28th, 2016, 11:20
I think I've finished this one. Done with the V3 paint kit.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40992&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40993&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40994&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40995&stc=1

When I'm sure, I'll upload it.

DaveB
July 28th, 2016, 11:40
Nice one Ron. I was hoping someone would pick up the old Air Atlantique girls:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

gray eagle
July 28th, 2016, 12:51
http://www.batterie-merville.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/C47-SNAFU.jpg
This would be a nice livery for V3 of the C-47.......:)

Here is a link to the restoration of a WWII C-47 SNAFU Special.

http://www.the-snafu-special.com/passe/index.php

Ian Warren
July 28th, 2016, 13:20
I think I've finished this one. Done with the V3 paint kit.
When I'm sure, I'll upload it.
Ooooo That dose look a goodie Ron :encouragement:

Musicman
July 28th, 2016, 14:20
ARS version I was working on.. Just for fun. :very_drunk:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/65NXRR.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po65NXRRj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/5WzvBo.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/po5WzvBoj)

Alky
July 28th, 2016, 14:44
This would be a nice livery for V3 of the C-47.......:)

I'm not an aficionado of military aircraft, but I would love to have that one in my hangar!! :jump:

Ron Attwood
July 28th, 2016, 14:51
I've uploaded my offering to my MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9rn6bl8khy3mmu5/C-47_Air+Atlantique.zip) account until I figure out how to put it on SOH

Alky
July 28th, 2016, 19:15
I've uploaded my offering to my MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9rn6bl8khy3mmu5/C-47_Air+Atlantique.zip) account until I figure out how to put it on SOH

Ron, I know your work at the A2A forum and I'm wondering you'd have any interest in doing the "Snafu Special" in the post above? :wavey:

Hanimichal
July 28th, 2016, 20:39
using Gordon's blank textures to create dirty version

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/07/29/1-2016-7-29_1-28-30-766.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/07/29/2-2016-7-29_1-27-9-120.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/07/29/3-2016-7-29_1-27-44-117.jpg

ayrton74
July 28th, 2016, 20:55
I've uploaded my offering to my MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9rn6bl8khy3mmu5/C-47_Air+Atlantique.zip) account until I figure out how to put it on SOH

In the box.... Thnak You

rolandalder
July 28th, 2016, 21:06
I've uploaded my offering to my MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9rn6bl8khy3mmu5/C-47_Air+Atlantique.zip) account until I figure out how to put it on SOH

Thank you!

Ian Warren
July 28th, 2016, 21:28
I think this thread is going to explode like the other, ..... A wicked paint-kit and already hooking into old but new :encouragement: , new but old , what a formula :very_drunk:

YoYo
July 28th, 2016, 21:47
using Gordon's blank textures to create dirty version



Like it! Good job! :applause:

manfredc3
July 28th, 2016, 22:47
Is that flagship repaint available for download yet?

TeiscoDelRay
July 29th, 2016, 05:29
Has this livery been done? If not I would like to do it.

Bush Air Cargo

fuzz1
July 29th, 2016, 05:43
Hani,

Really looking forward to the v3 American Flagship. One of my favorites.

May I request you also consider redoing your excellent Buffalo livery as v3?

Airsmith
July 29th, 2016, 07:38
I did make some Repaints in RTAF of this wonderful Bird. Big Thanks to Manfred Jahn/Jan Viser and Team its so nice to fly this Old Lady :applause:

If i one day find out how to upload this files here i will share it with the comunity. What you think about it?

Hanimichal
July 29th, 2016, 07:54
Is that flagship repaint available for download yet?

Not yet, I am adjusting decals and fonts to be more as in real, so all must be painted manually because I cannot find high definition sources

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41059&stc=1

flattermann
July 29th, 2016, 08:41
I've uploaded my offering to my MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9rn6bl8khy3mmu5/C-47_Air+Atlantique.zip) account until I figure out how to put it on SOH

Hi Ron,
thank you for this texture. I tried the same with a fantasy-texture with the paint-kit. I have the same problem with your and with my texture: if I start the C-47 with your texture, there are chocks which I can't handle with the Shift-4 menu!? I allways have to load first the texture from the Beta-package and then to change to the paint-kit texture. Then I can set or off the chocks with the monitore. Have you also this problem?

Ron Attwood
July 29th, 2016, 08:53
Hi Ron,
thank you for this texture. I tried the same with a fantasy-texture with the paint-kit. I have the same problem with your and with my texture: if I start the C-47 with your texture, there are chocks which I can't handle with the Shift-4 menu!? I allways have to load first the texture from the Beta-package and then to change to the paint-kit texture. Then I can set or off the chocks with the monitore. Have you also this problem?

I just had another look at it in FSX and it's all good. So no, I don't have this problem.

Weird.

Maybe it's something to do with which aircraft you load as the default flight. Just a thought.

Ron Attwood
July 29th, 2016, 08:57
Ron, I know your work at the A2A forum and I'm wondering you'd have any interest in doing the "Snafu Special" in the post above? :wavey:

I did give SNAFU a look and thought I could add it to my list. I'm lining up Tico Belle at the moment. Maybe someone else will take it up?

flattermann
July 29th, 2016, 09:00
Hmmm. I can't understand this problem. I had this problem never before downloading the Beta and now only with new textures from the C-47 not with other airplanes. But thank you for answering.

Edit: I think the solution is my special startprogram SIMStarterNG. There are some special things to obeye, I forgot! Your hint for default flight was interesting.

TeiscoDelRay
July 29th, 2016, 09:06
Ok, got a start,,much, much more to do yet as you can see. This will be heavy weathered like the pictures I posted. Based on modified textures from gman's great paint kit.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii22/Warbirds_photos/b1a_zpsz8frlf7j.jpg (http://s260.photobucket.com/user/Warbirds_photos/media/b1a_zpsz8frlf7j.jpg.html)

Alky
July 29th, 2016, 12:44
May I request you also consider redoing your excellent Buffalo livery as v3?

This was my Buffalo livery I did for V2 and have re-done it in V3.

http://i.imgur.com/HlrseZG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wNrX7Zk.jpg

huub vink
July 29th, 2016, 12:53
Alky, I think you still need to add some colour to the vent pipe on the left forward side of the fuselage. In version 3 the engine textures need a bit mote space that's why this part has moved (again) on the texture lay-out.

For the rest is still is a gorgeous repaint!

Cheers,
Huub

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/HlrseZG_zps97l86wla.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/HlrseZG_zps97l86wla.jpg.html)

Alky
July 29th, 2016, 14:02
Alky, I think you still need to add some colour to the vent pipe on the left forward side of the fuselage.

Fixed! :)

http://i.imgur.com/dEUIATM.jpg

speedy70
July 29th, 2016, 14:09
Hi Alky are you going to upload it?

I would really like it.

Cheers Chris

Alky
July 29th, 2016, 14:23
Hi Alky are you going to upload it?

I would really like it.

Cheers Chris

I've never uploaded anything here so I'll give 'er a whirl. I don't know how long it takes to get listed so stand by. :)

speedy70
July 29th, 2016, 14:43
I think if you upload it now it should be available tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Cheers Chris

Alky
July 29th, 2016, 14:46
I think if you upload it now it should be available tomorrow.

Just uploaded, hope i did it right! :)

fuzz1
July 29th, 2016, 15:13
Looks great Alky, can't wait to get it...many thanks for your effort. Looks like fresh paint, perfect for those northern VIP flights.

I'd still encourage Hani to do his in v3 also; it presented a more weathered and well used appearance for those dirty cargo
runs into tight unpaved strips.

That way we have a choice of clean or beat up.

fuzz1
July 29th, 2016, 15:38
Another favorite of mine I believe is worthy of the v3 treatment:

By Gary Harper

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u484/Hoggy_Dog/2015-5-26_19-36-5-854.png

Craig Taylor
July 29th, 2016, 17:35
Many, many years ago my father used to fly in and out of the Libyan desert on one of these. It would be wonderful if someone would take a shot at painting it. I wish I had personal photos, but this was a long, long time ago...

41079

41081

Butcherbird17
July 29th, 2016, 19:14
One that I am playing with, Should be a DC-3 and not the C-47. This one was formally a KLM bird (PH-ALV), captured by the luftwaffe at Schipol and operated by Deutsche lufthansa circa 1941.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Lufthansa_zps6ww1gyqs.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Lufthansa_zps6ww1gyqs.jpg.html)

Joe

gaab
July 29th, 2016, 23:22
Another favorite of mine I believe is worthy of the v3 treatment:

By Gary Harper

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u484/Hoggy_Dog/2015-5-26_19-36-5-854.png

Yes, please
Gérard

paulopp
July 30th, 2016, 01:39
Greetings,

to all of you good repainters, I'd like to make a suggestion: C-47A (cn 19460) '111' from the Royal Jordanian Air Force which is exhibited at Hermeskeil, Germany. She is the closest Dakota to where I live and I think she quite perfectly qualifies for a repaint. See for yourselves:

http://www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil/03013.jpg

http://www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil/03015.jpg

http://www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil/03020.jpg


Photos © Ruud Leeuw http://www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil05.htm
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/www.ruudleeuw.com/hermeskeil05.htm)
What do you think? :jump:

Best, paulopp

b52bob
July 30th, 2016, 05:39
I did make some Repaints in RTAF of this wonderful Bird. Big Thanks to Manfred Jahn/Jan Viser and Team its so nice to fly this Old Lady :applause:

If i one day find out how to upload this files here i will share it with the comunity. What you think about it?

What scenery is this. It's beautiful and I have been trying to find good Thai scenery, especially u-tapao.

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 08:27
Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..). On photos of real DC-3's/C-47's there is usually no evidence of such heavy 'weathering' there behind the cowl flaps. I saw one (in another thread) that even looks like both engines have been on fire for a couple of hours... ;-)

Of course still flying Dakotas today that belong to musea and such are kept in immaculate condition and appearance, including the engine nacelles, but there are still quite a few photos around of Dakotas during their working life in the 1950's, 60's etc. that show hardly any evidence of heavy oil/soot there behind the cowl flaps let alone burned out engines...

A nice example from my own collection. Typical BEA cargo workhorse. Fairly, what you might call 'weathered' as you can see, but a pretty clean area behind the cowl flaps. (the dark area at the front is the shadow of the cowlflaps and because the structure bends inwards there. With closed cowl flaps nothing dark to see there ):

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/bea1.jpg

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/bea2.jpg

(btw, anyone interested in doing a repaint of this beautiful BEA livery ? I have some color photos too.. ;-)

Another one of KLM PH-DAM in the late 50's :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/ph-dam.jpg

Couple more from airliners.net :

RAN C-47 in 1988
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/8/4/3/2828348.jpg?v=v20

TAA C-47 1968
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/6/6/2821667.jpg?v=v20

Shawnee C-47 late 1970's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/8/8/7/2820788.jpg?v=v20

Emerald C-53D 1967
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/7/9/8/2817897.jpg?v=v20

Philippine Airlines C-47 1980
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/1/0/0/2794001.jpg?v=v20

Certainly there are a few others that do show evidence of something hot and oily going on inside that front cowling there but notice how these oil or soot stains appear more like 'lines' coming from individual cylinders that might need replacement...

N6CA mid 70's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/9/4/3/2822349.jpg?v=v20

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/6/3/1/2826136.jpg?v=v20

N49FN mid 70's
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/9/2/2821290.jpg?v=v20

N27ISE Florida Air Cargo 2015
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/8/3/2747380.jpg?v=v20

Anyway, just something i couldn't help noticing. No criticising whatsoever. On ze contrary, very much looking forward to all these wonderful repaints.

Thanks for listening, gentlemen.

cheers,
jan

Alky
July 30th, 2016, 09:08
Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..).

Maybe it should be removed from the paintkit(?)




N27ISE Florida Air Cargo 2015
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/airliners/0/8/3/2747380.jpg?v=v20

Anyway, just something i couldn't help noticing. No criticising whatsoever. On ze contrary, very much looking forward to all these wonderful repaints.



I love the livery on that Florida Air Cargo plane!!

Bruce Thompson
July 30th, 2016, 09:43
Yet another site with some history of DC/C47 aircraft back in the day when Leeds Bradford Airport was known as Yeadon Airport.
I can remember it as a flying club.

http://website.lineone.net/~biggles200/index.htm

heywooood
July 30th, 2016, 10:19
Has this livery been done? If not I would like to do it.

Bush Air Cargo

Please DO!!

heywooood
July 30th, 2016, 10:21
Has this livery been done? If not I would like to do it.

Bush Air Cargo

Please DO!!....oh - I see that you ARE doing it...GREAT!

Duckie
July 30th, 2016, 10:42
Gents, excuse me for butting in. I really have no clue where the idea came from that there's supposed to be a complete ring of heavy oil and soot stains behind the cowl flaps (as can be seen in some of the repaint screenies..). On photos of real DC-3's/C-47's there is usually no evidence of such heavy 'weathering' there behind the cowl flaps. I saw one (in another thread) that even looks like both engines have been on fire for a couple of hours... ;-)

Of course still flying Dakotas today that belong to musea and such are kept in immaculate condition and appearance, including the engine nacelles, but there are still quite a few photos around of Dakotas during their working life in the 1950's, 60's etc. that show hardly any evidence of heavy oil/soot there behind the cowl flaps let alone burned out engines...

A nice example from my own collection. Typical BEA cargo workhorse. Fairly, what you might call 'weathered' as you can see, but a pretty clean area behind the cowl flaps. (the dark area at the front is the shadow of the cowlflaps and because the structure bends inwards there. With closed cowl flaps nothing dark to see there ):



Certainly there are a few others that do show evidence of something hot and oily going on inside that front cowling there but notice how these oil or soot stains appear more like 'lines' coming from individual cylinders that might need replacement...

Thanks for listening, gentlemen.

cheers,
jan

I usually stay clear of discussions regarding correct colors, and weathering because they can be so subjective and can get out of hand very quickly. So, at the risk of stirring the pot, and with all due respect and admiration for one of our hobby's most prolific developers, I will comment on this particular subject.

First off, I agree with Jan re the current C-47/DC-3 fliers. For the most part they are kept in pristine condition, including the engine cowls and nacelles. However there are many examples of operational military C-47s, and even a few civilian airliners with varying degrees of oil and soot on the nacelles behind the cowl flaps, a few of which are posted below.

So, from this repainter's point of view, I respectfully disagree with Jan's statement in his first paragraph. While I also agree with Jan re that degree of such "weathering" may come into question. But, that is usually determined by many factors such as personal taste, skill level and experience with repainting. As for myself, I repaint subjects for me. Most times I try to make them as accurate as possible. However, there are times when I take artistic license with such things, and because it's for me, it's OK if others don't care for them.

Finally, this is not a debate or argument. It is my humble opinion only, and I will not engage in any back and forth because I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing an opinion.

41090 41091 41093

Steve

huub vink
July 30th, 2016, 13:06
As I already said in a previous post, I'm currently replacing the engines and adjusting the textures of my earlier repaints to fit the V.3 version.

There was also one KLM livery missing: The last one! This is the PH-DAW as it looked in December 1968 at Schiphol, Amsterdam. It was the last C-47 to fly in KLM colours. Although the last DC-3/C-47 officially left the KLM passenger fleet already in 1965, 2 C-47s kept flying for KLM Aerocarto. The PH-DAW was the last to be sold in 1970.

It took this long to start this repaint, as I personally consider this the most boring livery on a KLM C-47s. (Still work in progress)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-7-30_22-36-18-617_zpscydarwh0.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-7-30_22-36-18-617_zpscydarwh0.jpg.html)

I hope this one will make Jan Visser happy :biggrin-new:.

Cheers,
Huub

Wings of Gold
July 30th, 2016, 17:36
I second Jan's suggestion for a BEA texture for this bird! The BEA Paint scheme is one of the truly beautiful Dakota paint schemes, and(amazingly) it hasn't yet been done. PLEASE, one of you talented painters, do a BES version!


Best to you all,

Bill

musterpilot
July 30th, 2016, 17:39
Hi guys
Would anyone be interested in doing me a repaint for the MMA VH-MMB pleasehttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41133&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41134&stc=1

thank you

John

gray eagle
July 30th, 2016, 17:51
This is a V2 convert to V3 (yes, it has the V3 VVC) :encouragement: Tail wheel tire low on air.

Spotted at NAS Alameda.

http://s31.postimg.org/78o6jjhsr/Alameda.jpg

http://s31.postimg.org/3rm4gkiqj/Alameda1.jpg

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 19:10
Maybe it should be removed from the paintkit(?)

Ok! Didn't know it comes with the paintkit.. ( as much as i've always loved repainting, IMHO one of the most entertaining and rewarding FS jobs, i simply can't find the time anymore so i have actually never seen the paintkit for Manfred's Dakota ). I guess i'll have to sit round the table with my friend Gordon then... :)

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Jan

ryanbatc
July 30th, 2016, 19:20
Is anyone working on a USA private livery? I'd love to fly an N number online. I think there's a shiny N3006 somewhere. http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/522/522461.jpg

gman5250
July 30th, 2016, 19:22
Ok! Didn't know it comes with the paintkit.. ( as much as i've always loved repainting, IMHO one of the most entertaining and rewarding FS jobs, i simply can't find the time anymore so i have actually never seen the paintkit for Manfred's Dakota ). I guess i'll have to sit round the table with my friend Gordon then... :)

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Jan

EZ Peazy Jan...the cowl bluing is a layer in the PK. It can be turned off for a much more subtle discoloration. I'll make a clean gray base layer with no baked in wear and post it up as an update.

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 19:28
I usually stay clear of discussions regarding correct colors, and weathering because they can be so subjective and can get out of hand very quickly. So, at the risk of stirring the pot, and with all due respect and admiration for one of our hobby's most prolific developers, I will comment on this particular subject.

First off, I agree with Jan re the current C-47/DC-3 fliers. For the most part they are kept in pristine condition, including the engine cowls and nacelles. However there are many examples of operational military C-47s, and even a few civilian airliners with varying degrees of oil and soot on the nacelles behind the cowl flaps, a few of which are posted below.

So, from this repainter's point of view, I respectfully disagree with Jan's statement in his first paragraph. While I also agree with Jan re that degree of such "weathering" may come into question. But, that is usually determined by many factors such as personal taste, skill level and experience with repainting. As for myself, I repaint subjects for me. Most times I try to make them as accurate as possible. However, there are times when I take artistic license with such things, and because it's for me, it's OK if others don't care for them.

Finally, this is not a debate or argument. It is my humble opinion only, and I will not engage in any back and forth because I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing an opinion.



Steve

Hi Steve,

It's just something i've seen on quite a few repaints for Manfred's C-47 v2 model as well. At average that much oil/soot behind the cowlflaps just doesn't belong there. As i hoped to show with the photos i provided in my post about it...

Anyway, no big deal, just doesn't look right in my ol' Dakota aficionado eyes, that's all.

Cheers,
Jan

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 19:56
I hope this one will make Jan Visser happy :biggrin-new:.



Afraid not, Huub... :playful:

I deffinately agree with you that this is the least attractive DC-3 KLM livery. But thanks for doing it anyway! :encouragement:

Actually i'm waiting for the other KLM liveries that you've done for the v2 model. F.i. this beauty here :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?82308-Another-KLM-livery-for-Manfred-Jahn-s-C-47 (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?82308-Another-KLM-livery-for-Manfred-Jahn-s-C-47)

In my KLM Dakota book the most gorgeous livery of them all. But i've always been a stickler for the bare-metal blue nose too of course.

Thanks again for doing such a fine job on the KLM DC-3 liveries, Huub. Goes without saying they are my favourite.

Groeten,
Jan

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 19:59
EZ Peazy Jan...the cowl bluing is a layer in the PK. It can be turned off for a much more subtle discoloration. I'll make a clean gray base layer with no baked in wear and post it up as an update.

Righto, Gordon ! :encouragement:

Cheers,
Jan

Javis
July 30th, 2016, 20:32
I second Jan's suggestion for a BEA texture for this bird! The BEA Paint scheme is one of the truly beautiful Dakota paint schemes, and(amazingly) it hasn't yet been done. PLEASE, one of you talented painters, do a BEA version!



Remember this, Bill ?...:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/bea.jpg

I adapted the complete G-AMNV configuration, including the very typical cabin windows arrangement, just to do the beautiful BEA livery for the Maam-Sim DC-3 model (one is a dedicated Dakota nutter or one is not.. :teapot: ). We can't have that for Manfred's model of course, atleast not for the time being, but that doesn't mean that this gorgeous BEA livery would look absolutely fabulous on it.

Should there be any takers, here's a color photo of the real thing :

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/bea_g-amnv.jpg
Fingers crossed, Bill ! :cool:

Cheers,
Jan

Ian Warren
July 31st, 2016, 03:33
:adoration: Arrr the Ole BEA .. think these are really going to takeoff, even with the metal texture .. I'm already thinking of adding Photo Metal ... ... won't be the plane unless they would drag it out the hanger for me :untroubled:

DaveB
July 31st, 2016, 04:09
Yup.. it would look great in BEA Keyline too.. even Railway Air Services. Lots of lovely bare metal to admire:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Jafo
July 31st, 2016, 04:10
I was in the midst of doing something Qantas...but revisited the Gooney Bird yet again....knocked a bit more blue out of the blue...put in a metal edge to the windows [had to find them exactly first] and changed the curved corners to the emergency exits....
Eventually there's a law of diminishing returns.....and I can get back to the Qantas...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41152&stc=1

surfguru
July 31st, 2016, 10:20
:redfire:ok im on my hands and knees begging for this repaint lol. Im after the MAAM R4D 50819 in her origional grey scheme. I know theres the old V2 repaint in polished, but Im in love with the original old grey Bird...Would there be ANYONE willing to do a good detailed repaint of this old bird?
http://www.maam.org/airshow/images/r4d_exterior.jpg

tgycgijoes
July 31st, 2016, 11:42
I usually stay clear of discussions regarding correct colors, and weathering because they can be so subjective and can get out of hand very quickly. So, at the risk of stirring the pot, and with all due respect and admiration for one of our hobby's most prolific developers, I will comment on this particular subject.

First off, I agree with Jan re the current C-47/DC-3 fliers. For the most part they are kept in pristine condition, including the engine cowls and nacelles. However there are many examples of operational military C-47s, and even a few civilian airliners with varying degrees of oil and soot on the nacelles behind the cowl flaps, a few of which are posted below.

So, from this repainter's point of view, I respectfully disagree with Jan's statement in his first paragraph. While I also agree with Jan re that degree of such "weathering" may come into question. But, that is usually determined by many factors such as personal taste, skill level and experience with repainting. As for myself, I repaint subjects for me. Most times I try to make them as accurate as possible. However, there are times when I take artistic license with such things, and because it's for me, it's OK if others don't care for them.

Finally, this is not a debate or argument. It is my humble opinion only, and I will not engage in any back and forth because I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing an opinion.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41090&stc=1 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41091&stc=1 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41093&stc=1

Steve

Back 25 years or so ago I owned a small company that produced a line we called "EXACT-MIX" paints for model ships. The paints were formulated from actual WWII paint chips for the U.S.N. , Royal Navy and Kriegsmarine. After sending a set of six colors overseas, we received a letter back with a Xerox copy of a black/white photo from the customer telling us that a particular shade of gray did not match his photo he was using for reference. I won't get into explanation of angle of the sun, cloud cover or age of the film or print of the photo etc. here. Needless to say, I NEVER ever get into discussions of colors from black/white photos. LOL.

tgycgijoes
July 31st, 2016, 11:46
This is a V2 convert to V3 (yes, it has the V3 VVC) :encouragement: Tail wheel tire low on air.

Spotted at NAS Alameda.

http://s31.postimg.org/78o6jjhsr/Alameda.jpg

http://s31.postimg.org/3rm4gkiqj/Alameda1.jpg

Better check the Form 1A for a "down gripe" on that tailwheel before the Admiral comes out of Air Ops, G.E. BTW nice airport, LOL.

Ian Warren
July 31st, 2016, 14:04
Regard to tail wheel in the dirt, that is also caused by custom scenery flattens, check you tail wheel at a default .. Edwards would be Ideal :encouragement:

Jafo
July 31st, 2016, 14:10
Currently 'on the go' ....lots to do yet...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41249&stc=1

Ian Warren
July 31st, 2016, 14:31
Looking Great Jafo :adoration:, I myself was doddling away this weekend ... So so easy to work with the paint kit:encouragement:

WarHorse47
July 31st, 2016, 15:44
Great looking liveries, but I'll be darned if I can find the download links for half of what I see.

Duckie, how you coming with that Air Rescue conversion paint I post #8?

GunnyG
July 31st, 2016, 16:26
Another wishlist item:

Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Douglas C-47J Skytrain N34 (44-77027) (http://www.flickriver.com/photos/mdl_photography/4716764826/)

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/aviation-museum-news/article-dc-3-airplane-donated-amarillo-museum.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUTz1d6vBbwChVyUtfn4bCkQ&v=GGmkyQ5-Pp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUTz1d6vBbwChVyUtfn4bCkQ&v=GGmkyQ5-Pp8

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4716764826_f4730594f0.jpg

http://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/images/airshows%202009/Scott%202009/c-47-107w-1.jpg
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/N34-Chuck.jpg

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/N34-Cockpit-from-Gary-Jones.jpg

Duckie
July 31st, 2016, 16:37
Great looking liveries, but I'll be darned if I can find the download links for half of what I see.

Duckie, how you coming with that Air Rescue conversion paint I post #8?

Hey WH47, thanks for asking but I'm just getting reacquainted with the texture structure and the paint kit. Although the textures convert well, the FS9 resolution is only 1024 and it looses a lot in the conversion. I'm going to update them to 2048 and I've got to adjust the specs and alphas so it may be a minute or two before I'm done as I'm updating both of my ARS paints, the OD and the natural metal versions.

But I have some other RL fish to fry before I get to them.

gman5250
July 31st, 2016, 17:16
I've been uploading a series of updated HD skins for the new V3 bird. Today's upload, an RAF DAK with my black VC texture mods.


https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8647/28653821306_81d1360e5f_o.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8772/28653823266_46758a0c01_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8304/27990490104_02bd791563_o.jpg

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8342/28685890555_cd1ac038b5_o.jpg

cavaricooper
July 31st, 2016, 18:15
Simply stunning Gordon!

C

PS- anyone have info on the RAE version, I'd love to see it refreshed....

gman5250
July 31st, 2016, 18:43
Important Update for Painters

JVVC C-47 Paint Kit Basics
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=176&linkid=21686

I've uploaded an expansion to the JVVC C-47 Paint Kit. This kit contains all of the "basics" to build comprehensive skins from the ground up.

New Dedicated Layer Sets:

Basic:
The basic folder contains clean skin gray, worn skin gray, wing separations with upper and lower shading, aluminum skin layers, a clean engine cowl layer, and wire mesh. You may note that the new gray skin layers have different art for the radials. This was my original art, prior to Ted's beautifully detailed radial layer. Now there are two choices for the radials.

Alpha:
The alpha folder contains 13 separate layers for various alpha applications including 3 levels of shine, 3 variations of metal finish, de-ice boots, anti-skid, anti-glare and other details that need masking in alpha.

Specular:
There are four different specular applications including generic, worn, a de-ice boot layer and a rainbow noise layer.

Bump:
The bump folder contains a grayscale bump master sheet, a normal map, a texture grayscale layer and bump alpha.

This kit can be added to the existing kit by placing these at the bottom of the layers stack.
Originally I thought the streamlined PK would be adequate, but seeing all of the beautiful skins being produced I thought my fellow skinners would like a bigger hammer to pound out some real masterpieces.

If anyone has any questions on this PK expansion set, just post up here or shoot me a PM. It seems this thread may be a perfect venue for discussing various paint techniques as well as displaying new art. It all looks amazing so far. :encouragement:

Happy painting friends.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8762/28070628974_8b119925c7_o.jpg

Butcherbird17
July 31st, 2016, 18:47
Been working on this one all weekend, time to take a break.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Dazzle%20Dak_01_zpsts1zi3ck.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Dazzle%20Dak_01_zpsts1zi3ck.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Dazzle%20Dak_02_zpsuaq7uyot.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Dazzle%20Dak_02_zpsuaq7uyot.jpg.html)

Joe

Jafo
July 31st, 2016, 18:51
Darn....now I have to grab the new kit....
Sounds good though...;)

Meanwhile....nothing's ever quite right....I had to draw the 'Qantas' text from scratch....nothing was skinny enough and/or with the right kern.

There's several versions of the nose....seems Qantas couldn't decide on a specific...so I'll have to search/research some more...;)

Here's the 'corrected' Logo....and the right alpha.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41284&stc=1

gaucho_59
July 31st, 2016, 19:36
I've been uploading a series of updated HD skins for the new V3 bird. Today's upload, an RAF DAK with my black VC texture mods.


https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8647/28653821306_81d1360e5f_o.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8772/28653823266_46758a0c01_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8304/27990490104_02bd791563_o.jpg

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8342/28685890555_cd1ac038b5_o.jpg


The yellow rescue arrows were not used by the RAF during WW2... Research USAAC painting guidelines...
The USAF was created in 1948... British began using such warnings in the 1950s....
Otherwise... OUTSTANDING ARTWORK!!! Very, very realistic...
G.

fuzz1
July 31st, 2016, 20:01
Gordon, RAF374 is drop dead gorgeous inside and out. Thanks for this effort. Very tastefully done.

Jafo
July 31st, 2016, 21:25
VH-EAR ... specifically, as opposed to several others that were different in detail.

The side stripe tapers top and bottom to the rear...and has a less than attractive slope down at front top...now with 'Royal Airmail'. Half the time I was relying on diecast model images...and they were simply wrong.
This was also before the paint/contrast outline around the doors...so was pretty bland, really.... but more appealing than the first "Qantas Empire Airways" version [which I'll have a go at next....once I'm happy with this one]...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41285&stc=1

huub vink
July 31st, 2016, 23:01
Nice repaint Gordon and thanks for the new paintkit!

For those you are not familiar with the story of the KG374 here a link:

https://ninedaysinseptember.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/david-lord-v-c/

Cheers,
Huub

degeus
August 1st, 2016, 00:32
I think I've finished this one. Done with the V3 paint kit.

When I'm sure, I'll upload it.

Ron,
Nice repasint, but I am looking for the document that describes how to convert earlier versions of the C-47 to the V3 version. Who knows about that?

BendyFlyer
August 1st, 2016, 01:41
VH-EAR ... specifically, as opposed to several others that were different in detail.

The side stripe tapers top and bottom to the rear...and has a less than attractive slope down at front top...now with 'Royal Airmail'. Half the time I was relying on diecast model images...and they were simply wrong.
This was also before the paint/contrast outline around the doors...so was pretty bland, really.... but more appealing than the first "Qantas Empire Airways" version [which I'll have a go at next....once I'm happy with this one]...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41285&stc=1



Jafo - Qantas basically got the DC-3/C-47 to operate in PNG and some other routes similarly where the Government wanted them to. They were restricted domestically in OZ because of what was known as the two airline policy and that meant QF was to service international routes. The photos I have of the DC-3 in Qantas colours are these:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41289&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41290&stc=1

There are better photos at the Aussie Airline Site: http://www.aussieairliners.org/index.html just search under the aircraft type. Even though Qantas had to hand over New Guinea stuff to TAA they kept the DC-3s for a while, it was not part of there desired fleet fit so they operated the DC-3 reluctantly, after all they had brand new 707s to play with.

gray eagle
August 1st, 2016, 03:38
Hey G,

I like those black seats. :encouragement: Is there a way I could change the seat color of any V3 repaint to black seats? Will using your PK help transfer that black color seat to any livery I wanted to change?
If not, then what do I do?



Important Update for Painters

JVVC C-47 Paint Kit Basics
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=176&linkid=21686

I've uploaded an expansion to the JVVC C-47 Paint Kit. This kit contains all of the "basics" to build comprehensive skins from the ground up.

New Dedicated Layer Sets:

Basic:
The basic folder contains clean skin gray, worn skin gray, wing separations with upper and lower shading, aluminum skin layers, a clean engine cowl layer, and wire mesh. You may note that the new gray skin layers have different art for the radials. This was my original art, prior to Ted's beautifully detailed radial layer. Now there are two choices for the radials.

Alpha:
The alpha folder contains 13 separate layers for various alpha applications including 3 levels of shine, 3 variations of metal finish, de-ice boots, anti-skid, anti-glare and other details that need masking in alpha.

Specular:
There are four different specular applications including generic, worn, a de-ice boot layer and a rainbow noise layer.

Bump:
The bump folder contains a grayscale bump master sheet, a normal map, a texture grayscale layer and bump alpha.

This kit can be added to the existing kit by placing these at the bottom of the layers stack.
Originally I thought the streamlined PK would be adequate, but seeing all of the beautiful skins being produced I thought my fellow skinners would like a bigger hammer to pound out some real masterpieces.

If anyone has any questions on this PK expansion set, just post up here or shoot me a PM. It seems this thread may be a perfect venue for discussing various paint techniques as well as displaying new art. It all looks amazing so far. :encouragement:

Happy painting friends.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8762/28070628974_8b119925c7_o.jpg

BendyFlyer
August 1st, 2016, 04:13
Jafo your livery which I have from is it V1 or 2 either way it works fine on V3, I like it a lot, I look forward to the new updated skin. I did not wish to sound like you are wrong (sorry), your livery it seems is referred to as the Qantas DC-3 Standard Livery, it seems that first for Qantas there was the all aluminium hull with scrolled Qantas Empire and little other paint at all, then the next one which is the one I posted the pics of and finally the one you have done.

Jafo
August 1st, 2016, 04:45
Jafo your livery which I have from is it V1 or 2 either way it works fine on V3, I like it a lot, I look forward to the new updated skin. I did not wish to sound like you are wrong (sorry), your livery it seems is referred to as the Qantas DC-3 Standard Livery, it seems that first for Qantas there was the all aluminium hull with scrolled Qantas Empire and little other paint at all, then the next one which is the one I posted the pics of and finally the one you have done.
Yes, am using the V3 kit....though altered as I use PSP6 which cannot access this particular PSD without dumbing it down via PS.

The first Qantas C-47s/DC-3s were ex lend-lease RAAF...and were originally QEA [Qantas Empire Airways] with the Empire's scroll font....the later ver was the ones as you posted above....and then like my paint/but maybe at the same time still...which is fairly close/contemporary with the DC-4s and the first 707s.

My first flight on a plane was at 2 weeks.... on a DC-3 [dunno what AL though - and my parents are long gone] ....that was in 1954 ...from King Island to Mildura...my old man was DCA and was being posted to Mildura to run the Aerodrome.

Anyway....plan is to do the earlier vers [plural] as well ...;)

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 04:59
The yellow rescue arrows were not used by the RAF during WW2... Research USAAC painting guidelines...
The USAF was created in 1948... British began using such warnings in the 1950s....
Otherwise... OUTSTANDING ARTWORK!!! Very, very realistic...
G.

Thanks for that catch Gaucho.
I made those changes first thing this AM and uploaded the new skin without the rescue arrows. You can re-download that file now. :encouragement:

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 05:05
Hey G,

I like those black seats. :encouragement: Is there a way I could change the seat color of any V3 repaint to black seats? Will using your PK help transfer that black color seat to any livery I wanted to change?
If not, then what do I do?

You can change the VC textures for any airplane. In this case, go to the texture.RAF374 folder and copy the texture.cfg file. Paste that file into any skin you want to reference the texture.blackint artwork.

The PK has no provision for changing VC artwork, but that can be done in PS by modifying the original texture sheets located in the texture folder for Douglas C-47 V3. Not for the faint of heart.

spokes2112
August 1st, 2016, 05:33
Anyone up for this or an alternate?

http://www.hermantheduck.org/pages/aircraft%20section%20pages/dc3.html

http://www.findmodelkit.com/sites/default/files/72_north_central_dc-3.jpg

ayrton74
August 1st, 2016, 05:42
Thanks for that catch Gaucho.
I made those changes first thing this AM and uploaded the new skin without the rescue arrows. You can re-download that file now. :encouragement:


Thank You very much for your great job

YoYo
August 1st, 2016, 07:05
I've been uploading a series of updated HD skins for the new V3 bird. Today's upload, an RAF DAK with my black VC texture mods.



Hi gman!

Please check Your compression of textures. I dont know what You do but Your one texture of external has.... 83 Mb (?!). My, from example here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?101535-Douglas-C-47-V3-Beta-Released&p=1036392&viewfull=1#post1036392 has 4.00 Mb (with alpha channel also). It affects VAS and possibly OOM in the final. btw. some of textures of really nice (like for example texture.oldskin but this strange compression spoils effects of details). I use for example for this FSX SDK ImageTool and DXTbmp in the end.

:wavey:

oldmsgt
August 1st, 2016, 07:37
The yellow rescue arrows were not used by the RAF during WW2... Research USAAC painting guidelines...
The USAF was created in 1948... British began using such warnings in the 1950s....
Otherwise... OUTSTANDING ARTWORK!!! Very, very realistic...
G.

Actually, the United States Air Force was born on September 18th, 1947...
:ernaehrung004:
The Old Master Sergeant

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 07:50
Hi gman!

Please check Your compression of textures. I dont know what You do but Your one texture of external has.... 83 Mb (?!). My, from example here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?101535-Douglas-C-47-V3-Beta-Released&p=1036392&viewfull=1#post1036392 has 4.00 Mb (with alpha channel also). It affects VAS and possibly OOM in the final. btw. some of textures of really nice (like for example texture.oldskin but this strange compression spoils effects of details). I use for example for this FSX SDK ImageTool and DXTbmp in the end.

:wavey:


Yeah...these are monsters, but an experiment. The original 2048 DXT5 skins are still available on this site.

The HD skins are 4096 32 bit, that's where the file size jumps up. I've been beta testing on my system and get 50 FPS and no OOM, but it's good to get some feedback. The "experimental" files are geared towards eventual 64 bit, but who knows if and when that will become reality. For the moment, I'm kind of testing the waters.

The loss of detail is something I have not run into. Give me an example and I'll go have a look at it.

The new PK is formatted for 2048 sheets, so if they are saved out as standard .bmp and processed as DXT5 they should run around 5mb.


BTW...I don't get in a twist when people give me feedback, I actually appreciate it. Anyone else wanting to critique, it's always welcome.

Airsmith
August 1st, 2016, 08:01
About the file size i did read long time ago somewhere that you can save file size if you not use MIP Map by creating a DDS File. Positive effect is to safe file size, negative effect is you will not have the same Quality in all sizes, for example: if you create it in 4096 it will only show ok in 4096 without the mip map but may be it is a solution for your big files.

Jafo
August 1st, 2016, 08:14
I think I'm pretty much right with the VH-EAR Qantas....

Next step is to do the earlier/later ver/s.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41313&stc=1

YoYo
August 1st, 2016, 09:15
Ok, the next detail. Modified prop textures:

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Nowy-1jpg_aperhqn.jpg

Boss86001
August 1st, 2016, 09:44
Looks great YoYo!

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 09:55
G,


Got your repaint (V3 RAF DAK) and I am in a situation where I used the V3 VVC for a V2 R-4D and that part works however, in trying to adapt your black seats the seats will remain brown and not change to your black seats.
Here is my texture.cfg contents:

[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\texture.blackint <<<< Your interior.
fallback.2=..\texture.JK_NATS_17274 <<<<< a call for the Nats C47
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.4=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e



The syntax you are showing here will create a conflict.
Don't modify your texture.cfg file. Copy the entire texture.cfg document from texture.RAF374 and paste it into the aircraft texture folder that you want to point to the black interior.

gray eagle
August 1st, 2016, 10:08
I did that and they are still brown.

Kind of defies logic :dizzy:



[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\texture.blackint
fallback.2=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e <<<<< The e in texture has a space in it but when I edit this the word texture has no space.



http://s32.postimg.org/vv9cgwv1h/Brown.jpg




The syntax you are showing here will create a conflict.
Don't modify your texture.cfg file. Copy the entire texture.cfg document from texture.RAF374 and paste it into the aircraft texture folder that you want to point to the black interior.

gaucho_59
August 1st, 2016, 10:54
Actually, the United States Air Force was born on September 18th, 1947...
:ernaehrung004:
The Old Master Sergeant


Transfer Order 1 was the first of 200 Army-Air Force transfer agreements drawn up in June and July, 1947, and ordered the transfer of all military and civilian personnel of the Army Air Forces to the Department of the Air Force and the USAF.[4] The final transfer order was signed June 22, 1949.
Over the continuing objections of the Navy, the United States Department of the Air Force was created by the National Security Act of 1947. That act became effective September 18, 1947 when the first secretary of the Air Force, Stuart Symington, took office. In 1948, the service chiefs agreed on usage of air assets under the Key West Agreement. (VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR!!!)

Really, on paper it was created in 1947... You are "rivet count correct" lol... but when you think in terms of being a "working" independent branch of the US Armed Forces....June 22, 1949 would probably be more accurate...
so in effect 1948 would MAYBE... for all practical purposes... especially in terms of nomenclature, fine tuning of regulations, etc. etc. .... when it really became itself...

G.

paulopp
August 1st, 2016, 10:54
I did that and they are still brown.

Kind of defies logic :dizzy:



[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\texture.blackint
fallback.2=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e <<<<< The e in texture has a space in it but when I edit this the word texture has no space.





Have you removed all 'V3' VC textures from your V2 texture folder? Rember, that texture.cfg defines FALLBACKS: if your texture folder defined in the aicraft.cfg already contains BROWN VVC textures for the model, FSX will ignore any BLACK fallback textures.

CaptainMal
August 1st, 2016, 11:39
Ok, the next detail. Modified prop textures:

I don't mean to criticize what is a very well done skin, but I am wondering if the next detail to look at is the wing roundel. Would it not have been a Type B roundel as opposed to the Type C.1 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force_roundels)? AFAIK, C.1 roundels were only used on the wings of 2nd Tactical Air Force planes, and Dakotas were assigned to RAF Transport Command. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the repaint Gman. Very well done.

Kekelekou
August 1st, 2016, 12:10
Been working on this one all weekend, time to take a break.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/Dazzle%20Dak_01_zpsts1zi3ck.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/Dazzle%20Dak_01_zpsts1zi3ck.jpg.html)

Joe

I have always had a sweet spot for SA/SAAF skins. Keep up the good work mate!

YoYo
August 1st, 2016, 13:05
I don't mean to criticize what is a very well done skin, but I am wondering if the next detail to look at is the wing roundel. Would it not have been a Type B roundel as opposed to the Type C.1 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force_roundels)? AFAIK, C.1 roundels were only used on the wings of 2nd Tactical Air Force planes, and Dakotas were assigned to RAF Transport Command. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

.

Hi. I used C.1 on fuselage and B on the top of wings, type C under wings, like here for example:

http://www.raftransportcommandmemorial.com/site/lightbox01_files/vlb_images8/image087.jpg

http://www.raf-in-combat.com/wpsite/wp-content/uploads/edd/2015/01/tn_Dakota-15.jpg

http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/53/pics/9_19.jpg

If Im wrong correct me.

fuzz1
August 1st, 2016, 13:07
Hi Gordon,
Just noticed a very minor thing on your excellent KG374. The cowl flap indicators now appear misaligned and give incorrect readings of actual flap position.
Could be a peculiarity with my own setup perhaps, although they work ok with other liveries including your '770.'
No big deal really, KG374 is magnificent in all other respects.

gray eagle
August 1st, 2016, 13:44
I just may of stumbled on a solution, at least it works for me, I copied all the file contents of Gordon's texture.blackint to the NATS folder and it over rode some file in my NATS texture folder, low and behold
I now have the black seats that I have been wrestling to have.




I did that and they are still brown.

Kind of defies logic :dizzy:



[fltsim]
fallback.1=..\texture.blackint
fallback.2=..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\texture
fallback.3=..\..\..\..\..\..\Scenery\Global\textur e <<<<< The e in texture has a space in it but when I edit this the word texture has no space.



http://s32.postimg.org/vv9cgwv1h/Brown.jpg

CaptainMal
August 1st, 2016, 14:01
YoYo:

That's how the Dakotas would have been painted according to official RAF specs, with the Type C on the lower wing and Type B on the upper. When invasion stripes were added, many Daks had the lower Type C roundels painted over, so Gman having no lower wing roundels is prototypically correct. I've been looking for photos of 374, but haven't located any that show the wing surfaces. I've put out feelers to my friends at Canadian Warplane Heritage to see if anyone there knows.

That's a mighty fine looking paint, if you don't mind me saying.


Hi. I used C.1 on fuselage and B on the top of wings, type C under wings, like here for example:

http://www.raftransportcommandmemorial.com/site/lightbox01_files/vlb_images8/image087.jpg

http://www.raf-in-combat.com/wpsite/wp-content/uploads/edd/2015/01/tn_Dakota-15.jpg

http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/53/pics/9_19.jpg

If Im wrong correct me.

YoYo
August 1st, 2016, 14:31
YoYo:

That's how the Dakotas would have been painted according to official RAF specs, with the Type C on the lower wing and Type B on the upper. When invasion stripes were added, many Daks had the lower Type C roundels painted over, so Gman having no lower wing roundels is prototypically correct. I've been looking for photos of 374, but haven't located any that show the wing surfaces. I've put out feelers to my friends at Canadian Warplane Heritage to see if anyone there knows.

That's a mighty fine looking paint, if you don't mind me saying.

Thank You. Yes, only few photos of this Dakota FL547 http://www.samolotypolskie.pl/uploads/Products/product_872/douglas-dc-3-c-47-dakota_src_2.jpg , http://www.shinden.org/av_hist/planes/c_47/08.jpg. I paitned according this model http://zszachownica.blogspot.com/2013/06/normal-0-21-false-false-false-pl-x-none.html , maybe he has better sources ;). This Dakota wasnt in Normandy in 44. She was in the trip over Italy in 44.
But the top and fuselage is ok I think:

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_aperqnn.jpg

speedy70
August 1st, 2016, 14:54
Yoyo will you be releasing your repaints here on this forum?

Cheers Chris

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 19:51
Hi Gordon,
Just noticed a very minor thing on your excellent KG374. The cowl flap indicators now appear misaligned and give incorrect readings of actual flap position.
Could be a peculiarity with my own setup perhaps, although they work ok with other liveries including your '770.'
No big deal really, KG374 is magnificent in all other respects.

Looks like the bug was on my end. I went through the entire set of VC textures and made the necessary corrections. I've re-loaded the RAF KG374 file with the update. Thanks for the HU.

gman5250
August 1st, 2016, 19:54
I just may of stumbled on a solution, at least it works for me, I copied all the file contents of Gordon's texture.blackint to the NATS folder and it over rode some file in my NATS texture folder, low and behold
I now have the black seats that I have been wrestling to have.

I may be mistaken but judging form the screen cap you posted, that looks like Jan's black VC...not mine. Not to worry, it's a beauty.

fuzz1
August 1st, 2016, 20:25
Looks like the bug was on my end. I went through the entire set of VC textures and made the necessary corrections. I've re-loaded the RAF KG374 file with the update. Thanks for the HU.

Most grateful for your extra effort on such a minor point. I've seen much of your remarkable work here at SOH and to my eyes KG374 ranks amongst your finest. Really enjoying this one.

YoYo
August 1st, 2016, 21:11
Yoyo will you be releasing your repaints here on this forum?

Cheers Chris

Flightsim, Avsim and will try here for the first time ; >.

Jafo
August 1st, 2016, 22:05
Qantas VH-EDD ....that 'other' paint version. Now for a QEA one ...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41362&stc=1

paulopp
August 1st, 2016, 23:07
I just may of stumbled on a solution, at least it works for me, I copied all the file contents of Gordon's texture.blackint to the NATS folder and it over rode some file in my NATS texture folder, low and behold
I now have the black seats that I have been wrestling to have.

Hey Gray Eagle,

now you have but TWO sets of VVC textures! If you just want to have one alias folder with Gman's black VVC textures for other liveries also, just do as Gman has told you and DELETE all VVC textures from your actual (NATS) livery folder. Only then its texture.cfg makes sense as I tried to describe earlier.

percuzz_capt
August 1st, 2016, 23:36
hello guys I'm Captain from Thailand.
it's my Royal Thai Air Force repaint .
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?101698-RTAF-C-47-zip

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41363&stc=1

menef
August 2nd, 2016, 01:52
Hi Gman! I'm sorry to tell you what I' m going to write but your HD
paints ( USAF 50940 end Yankee Doodle) appear very blurred in my FSX (gold edition-Windows 7) . Of course I've set TML=4096,
so in your opinion is there something to be fixed? Thank you
.

gray eagle
August 2nd, 2016, 04:50
As Popeye the sailor use to say, this is embariskin...... I did post the wrong pic. Here is what I should of posted in my Fixed post ^ (#114)

I really like the darker seats Gman :encouragement:

http://s32.postimg.org/84seb9cx1/black_seats.jpg




I may be mistaken but judging form the screen cap you posted, that looks like Jan's black VC...not mine. Not to worry, it's a beauty.

Jafo
August 2nd, 2016, 06:07
QEA VH-EAP on the go. Simplest thing re the fonts...pull them off the photos directly...that way they can't be wrong....
More to do...;)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41365&stc=1

Edit....
done the alphas....looking closer like it....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41366&stc=1

Need to remove the text on the wings....didn't have any...and it looks like it needs to lose a bit more shine...

degeus
August 2nd, 2016, 07:44
In doing so I just edited the aircraft.cfg of the V2-version so that it referred to the modelfile and the airfile. Moved the related texturefile to thye V3 folder, eventually renamed to prevent Double naming.
I did not try to copy the V2 model into the V3 folder so that the V2-version could use its original model-file.
reg.,
Piet de Geus

Ron Attwood
August 2nd, 2016, 07:56
Tico Belle. A veteran of D-Day, Market Garden and more. She is a celebrity in her own right and still serving today. http://www.valiantaircommand.com/#!c-47-tico-belle/cgu5

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41367&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41368&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41369&stc=1

I think she's finished, if only I could stop this link!

:dizzy:


(http://www.valiantaircommand.com/#!c-47-tico-belle/cgu5)

ayrton74
August 2nd, 2016, 08:27
Nice Ron, is it possible to download it?

Ron Attwood
August 2nd, 2016, 10:01
I'm just looking at it some more to make sure I've not missed anything...

wizzards
August 2nd, 2016, 10:17
I had an uncle who was in the Para,s that were dropped into Arnhem,he with others was eventually captured by the Germans,i believe he was being taken to Dresden but somehow escaped,he used to tell the story about navigating his way home by the stars,and on route stealing a big Mercedes staff car which he said he traded with an American Sargent for a flight to England,wonder what aircraft he flew back in,he was certainly a tough man,seeing Market garden made my spine tingle and took me back,this looks like a very special texture to me
Peter

Ron Attwood
August 2nd, 2016, 10:20
I had an uncle who was in the Para,s that were dropped into Arnhem,he with others was eventually captured by the Germans,i believe he was being taken to Dresden but somehow escaped,he used to tell the story about navigating his way home by the stars,and on route stealing a big Mercedes staff car which he said he traded with an American Sargent for a flight to England,wonder what aircraft he flew back in,he was certainly a tough man,seeing Market garden made my spine tingle and took me back,this looks like a very special texture to me
Peter

An uncle to be proud of. :encouragement:

PRB
August 2nd, 2016, 13:06
hello guys I'm Captain from Thailand.
it's my Royal Thai Air Force repaint .
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?101698-RTAF-C-47-zip

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41363&stc=1

I like it! It has inspired me to have a go at a paint of a Royal Thai Navy C-47 I managed to visit, and take photos of, at U-Tapao a couple of weeks ago...

huub vink
August 2nd, 2016, 13:52
Nice repaints guys :encouragement:

Here some progress I have made on the last C-47 the KLM had in their fleet. The registration was cancelled 15 July 1970, when this aircraft received a Surinam registration.

@Jan Visser, when you fly this livery for a while, it actually isn't that bad.....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-8-2_21-55-17-635_zpsirx2db3p.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-8-2_21-55-17-635_zpsirx2db3p.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-8-2_23-6-30-907_zpsspcv4qsz.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-8-2_23-6-30-907_zpsspcv4qsz.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-8-2_23-40-7-0_zpscybfq008.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-8-2_23-40-7-0_zpscybfq008.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Huub

Butcherbird17
August 2nd, 2016, 14:50
Anyone know where this area is on the PK. I have over painted the wings and part of
the fuselage with no luck finding it.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/C-47%20paint_zpszwoqmxro.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/C-47%20paint_zpszwoqmxro.jpg.html)

Joe

Ron Attwood
August 2nd, 2016, 15:06
Anyone know where this area is on the PK. I have over painted the wings and part of
the fuselage with no luck finding it.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/C-47%20paint_zpszwoqmxro.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/C-47%20paint_zpszwoqmxro.jpg.html)
Joe


Here.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41375&stc=1

Butcherbird17
August 2nd, 2016, 15:40
Ah ha! Thanks Ron. Don't know why I didn't see that.

Joe

musterpilot
August 2nd, 2016, 16:02
This is the one that I have done nothing flash but ok I thinkhttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41376&stc=1

Jafo
August 2nd, 2016, 17:37
I've finished the QEA VH-EAP. Time to upload these 3 Qantas versions...;) [and choose some better weather]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41383&stc=1

triflyman
August 2nd, 2016, 19:01
Thank You GMAN for doing the Piedmont Airlines Paint. I'm a Classic Airliner (and Scenery) Flyer (no 737, A320, 777 nor boarding ramps, etc. for me) and don't do Military (I must be the only one flying airliners as most of the posts have been about military)...although I will plan to try the Paratroopers, just for fun. This looks good. I downloaded the v3 because the MAAM (although good) just doesn't work well in FSX. I fly actual airliner routs and times from the online Airliner Timetable site.

It's funny because my next set of flights (once I got home from Hong Kong TaiTak) on my "to do" list was the Frontier Airlines routs over the Rockies from the early 50's...they were really pushing the performance of the DC-3 on these. Any way I could talk you into doing a paint of Frontier Airlines from that era...I have it for the MAAM version (which is what I planned to use) but would rather do it with this v3?

Again, thank you for giving me an airliner.

manfredc3
August 2nd, 2016, 20:27
Huub,

Eagerly awaiting the KLM paint,:encouragement:

But I hope that you will update the "Martin's Air Charter Douglas C-47B PH-MAA" as well please

Jafo
August 2nd, 2016, 22:50
Not a lot more to do [but a bit] ...RAAF A65-98 [the one that ended up being the Gooney Bird]....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41397&stc=1

jeansy
August 3rd, 2016, 00:30
nice jafo however the RAAF had a flat silver dip finish not polished metal

BendyFlyer
August 3rd, 2016, 01:34
QEA VH-EAP on the go. Simplest thing re the fonts...pull them off the photos directly...that way they can't be wrong....
More to do...;)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41365&stc=1

Edit....
done the alphas....looking closer like it....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41366&stc=1

Need to remove the text on the wings....didn't have any...and it looks like it needs to lose a bit more shine...

Nice effort Jafo, thanks for the tip about fonts.

Jafo
August 3rd, 2016, 04:47
nice jafo however the RAAF had a flat silver dip finish not polished metal

Yep.....hadn't got to the alphas yet....;)
As with everything with Aussie C-47s....none were quite the same.....seems most RAAF planes had de-ice panels....looks like A65-98 didn't....and the 'pinstripes' were all different. I chose '98 because I've flown in it twice [as the Gooney Bird] ...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41413&stc=1

Edit....flattened the specs a bit too...
Looks like it's about done.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41414&stc=1

BendyFlyer
August 3rd, 2016, 13:13
Yep.....hadn't got to the alphas yet....;)
As with everything with Aussie C-47s....none were quite the same.....seems most RAAF planes had de-ice panels....looks like A65-98 didn't....and the 'pinstripes' were all different. I chose '98 because I've flown in it twice [as the Gooney Bird] ...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41413&stc=1

Edit....flattened the specs a bit too...
Looks like it's about done.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41414&stc=1

Jafo a quick comment if I may, the blue on the roundels etc seems a little bright to my eye. FWIW.

Portia911
August 3rd, 2016, 13:59
It's funny because my next set of flights (once I got home from Hong Kong TaiTak) on my "to do" list was the Frontier Airlines routs over the Rockies from the early 50's...they were really pushing the performance of the DC-3 on these. Any way I could talk you into doing a paint of Frontier Airlines from that era...I have it for the MAAM version (which is what I planned to use) but would rather do it with this v3?

Again, thank you for giving me an airliner.

Hey Trifly, I'm doing pretty much the same using this skin from Jankees:
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/5015-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-frontier-airlines-n65276/
It's for the v2 version but sits nicely on the new v3 Dak.

Just flew mine up to Phoenix from LA. I'll do a return to Safford next, and then start heading north - trying where possible to match FTX Global free airports with stops on the Frontier timetables like this one:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/fl55/fl55-1.jpg
Happy flights!

AussieMan
August 3rd, 2016, 15:21
Jafo a quick comment if I may, the blue on the roundels etc seems a little bright to my eye. FWIW.

Bendy, I'm not sure if Jafo is using the same roundels as I am but the bare metal roundels always appear a bit brighter. I take mine from an insignia sheet that covers insignias from many air forces around the world.

This is the one I use for Bare Metal.

Timmy74
August 3rd, 2016, 16:20
Jafo a quick comment if I may, the blue on the roundels etc seems a little bright to my eye. FWIW.

Sorry Jafo....but I must concur with BendyFlyer.

Jafo
August 3rd, 2016, 16:33
Jafo a quick comment if I may, the blue on the roundels etc seems a little bright to my eye. FWIW.
Working with old photos where the colour emulsion was iffy at best...and age deterioration lightens them [red in particular] means what looks right matching a photo doesn't always match reality.
I've pulled back the colours more, but as yet haven't got a definitive BGR definition for the roundels of the time....and they do change.

Jafo
August 3rd, 2016, 22:22
After yet more hunting.... I'm pretty confident the RAAF roundels are 'right' for the vintage now.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41454&stc=1

"Confidence".... that feeling you have immediately before you fully understand the situation ...;)

triflyman
August 4th, 2016, 06:19
Hey Trifly, I'm doing pretty much the same using this skin from Jankees:
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/5015-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-frontier-airlines-n65276/
It's for the v2 version but sits nicely on the new v3 Dak.

Just flew mine up to Phoenix from LA. I'll do a return to Safford next, and then start heading north - trying where possible to match FTX Global free airports with stops on the Frontier timetables like this one:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/fl55/fl55-1.jpg
Happy flights!

Thank you...thank you. I did a search for this but only came up with the MAAM version.

I use CalClassic Scenery for my airports...they have Stapleton Airport (1958 version), which also gets rid of the new KDEN airport. They also have several airports for the Southwestern US that are from the 50's. Address is http://www.calclassic.com/ if you haven't visited...great for flying in the Classic era...no jetways.

Thanks again.

Ron Attwood
August 4th, 2016, 10:02
The towel is in my hand and I'm about to throw it in! I have tried every combination of layers etc. to get over this problem:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41497&stc=1

aaaagh! It's just that bit on the nose. Everywhere else is normal.

gman5250
August 4th, 2016, 10:11
aaaagh! It's just that bit on the nose. Everywhere else is normal.

The rivets will be in the texture, spec and bump layers, or are you referring to the belly band stripe?


Are you working in the PK?

Ron Attwood
August 4th, 2016, 10:52
It was the blue stripe. Yes, in PK. A quick reinstall of PS sorted it out. Thanks.

It comes of fiddling with thing one has no right to fiddle with. :stupid:

gman5250
August 4th, 2016, 11:03
It was the blue stripe. Yes, in PK. A quick reinstall of PS sorted it out. Thanks.

One trick I use when I do a radius stripe.

Compose the stripe at twice the resolution you will actually be using. Do it in a separate doc.
Feather the edges of the stripe by 0.5 pixel.

Reduce the resolution of your part to the actual resolution of the file you are using i.e. 4096 down to 2048.

Grab a beer...:very_drunk:

The combination of the feather and the file size reduction will soften those jagged edges that are inherent in a radius mask created object.

Ron Attwood
August 4th, 2016, 11:21
See? Already you've gone right over this poor ol' boy's head. :D

lawlegge
August 4th, 2016, 11:46
My guess is:

you'll need the beer
to make it clear...:ernaehrung004:

gman5250
August 4th, 2016, 12:29
See? Already you've gone right over this poor ol' boy's head. :D

Nah....OK start with the beer....then....


The problem in creating a belly band line using a circle mask as in the case of the DAK nose section is that the mask, which creates the circle, leaves horrible pixelated steps at the edges.

The way to cure this is to make the circle in a very high resolution layer i.e. 4096 x 4096. If you make the circle large, the edges will become smoother because the circle requires many more pixels to create the edge.
When you create the circle mask, apply a feathered edge to the mask using a setting of 0.5 pixels. This will very softly blur the edge. You can then fill the object.

Now select your circle and apply a mask. Use the transform tool to reduce the mask by a few pixels and use edit/clear to remove the center. Now you have a ring. At this point you can reduce the image size down to 2048 x 2048, or whatever your skin texture sheet resolution is. Usually 2048 now days.

At this point you can drag the ring into your skin texture sheet and size/trim to fit the graphic. The resulting arc should much smoother than if you had made it at actual working size.

Now...grab another beer.....:very_drunk:

YoYo
August 4th, 2016, 14:01
4x my skins "Olive drab series" uploaded, enjoy:

http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwrnqs.jpg

http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/C-47-Skyt_apwrnqq.jpg

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/C-47-Swam_apwrepp.jpg

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwrepn.jpg

SOH: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=180

speedy70
August 4th, 2016, 15:40
How long does it take for this site to approve an upload and post it?

It seems to take forever.

Cheers Chris

tgycgijoes
August 4th, 2016, 22:42
After all the looking I did, I was 100 numbers off of the Ohio ANG 42-93790 but in looking on Joe's serial number site, 10 down I found a really interesting history of 42-93800:

History:
178 FIS/119 FIG/ND ANG VC-47A

Originally C-47A-25-DK

c/n 13752 in 1987 at Museum of State Historical Society, Bismarck, ND, but nominally on charge of USAFM. Also reported to be at North Dakota ANG, Fargo, ND

Photographer: Stephen Miller
Photo taken 10 May 1963 at Andrews AFB.

93800 (MSN 13752) Redesignated VC-47A in 1984 and transferred to North Dakota ANG. By 1987 was
at Museum of State Historical Society, Bismarck, ND, but nominally
on charge of USAFM. Also reported by 1993 to be at North Dakota ANG, Fargo, ND. In 2012 was
on display at Eagles Air Museum in Fargo, North Dakota.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41540&stc=1

I set my mind to doing this texture this morning and its now the next morning but I was not giving up. I probably went about it the hard way not having much experience at all with either PSD paint kits or Adobe Photoshop. I had to tweak it in Corel Paintshop Pro which I have a lot of experience in and hand paint the Alpha for it but I think that it came out pretty good for my first try at a texture entirely my work. Still like Paintshop Pro better that Photoshop for ease of working but to do this you gotta use Photoshop. Here it is:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41541&stc=1

Maybe look for some Grand Forks ND AFB scenery for FSX tomorrow and fly it a bit.:dizzy:

Airsmith
August 5th, 2016, 05:26
I did a repaint in Thai Airways Livery. Upload is on the way soon you can download it here if you like it. THX go to Mr. Sindhu Ratna for helping creating the Repaints. :applause:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41551&d=1470403237&thumb=1&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41550&d=1470403237&thumb=1&stc=1

cavaricooper
August 5th, 2016, 05:46
Would anyone know how to contact the painter in this thread, "baernhard" - http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?84714-FSX-Douglas-C-47-(V2)-Royal-Aircraft-Establishment-zip and ask for a refresh to v3? It is a livery I flew often in v2 and would love to see again!

Best- C

speedy70
August 5th, 2016, 06:00
Send him a PM.I have used the version 2 paint and just redone the cfg file.Here is a copy if you want it.


[FLTSIM.X]
title = Douglas C-47 -- Royal Aircraft Establ --
sim = Douglas_DC3_V1.4
model =
panel =
sound =
texture = _RAE
kb_checklists = douglas_c47_check
kb_reference = douglas_c47_ref
atc_id =
ui_manufacturer = "Douglas"
ui_type = "C-47R Skytrain"
ui_variation = Royal Aircraft Establ.
ui_typerole = Twin Engine Prop
ui_createdby =
description = ...

Cheers Chris

DaveB
August 5th, 2016, 06:25
After all the looking I did, I was 100 numbers off of the Ohio ANG 42-93790 but in looking on Joe's serial number site, 10 down I found a really interesting history of 42-93800:

History:
178 FIS/119 FIG/ND ANG VC-47A

Originally C-47A-25-DK

c/n 13752 in 1987 at Museum of State Historical Society, Bismarck, ND, but nominally on charge of USAFM. Also reported to be at North Dakota ANG, Fargo, ND

Photographer: Stephen Miller
Photo taken 10 May 1963 at Andrews AFB.

93800 (MSN 13752) Redesignated VC-47A in 1984 and transferred to North Dakota ANG. By 1987 was
at Museum of State Historical Society, Bismarck, ND, but nominally
on charge of USAFM. Also reported by 1993 to be at North Dakota ANG, Fargo, ND. In 2012 was
on display at Eagles Air Museum in Fargo, North Dakota.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41540&stc=1

I set my mind to doing this texture this morning and its now the next morning but I was not giving up. I probably went about it the hard way not having much experience at all with either PSD paint kits or Adobe Photoshop. I had to tweak it in Corel Paintshop Pro which I have a lot of experience in and hand paint the Alpha for it but I think that it came out pretty good for my first try at a texture entirely my work. Still like Paintshop Pro better that Photoshop for ease of working but to do this you gotta use Photoshop. Here it is:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41541&stc=1

Maybe look for some Grand Forks ND AFB scenery for FSX tomorrow and fly it a bit.

That's a decent first effort mate:encouragement:

A few points you should be able to adjust.. the white on the roof should extend fwd of the aerial above the flightdeck. The upper orange/dayglo goes all the way down the dorsal. Take the 'BOLD' off the N.DAK.AIR GUARD titles and move it fwd (it starts mid-way through the window above the wing LE). The fin looks white too.. not silver.

Not the easiest paint to take on as a first effort. Good job thus far;)
ATB
DaveB

speedy70
August 5th, 2016, 06:38
Hi Dave.
Please could you tell me how you made the cowls shiny on Ron's air atlantique cos I would also like to do it.I have Miss Viginia by the way.

Cheers Chris

huub vink
August 5th, 2016, 06:43
Chris,

It is actually reasonably simple. You should replace that part of the alpha layer, from the texture C47_2_T.dds, with a darker version. It just in the textures, and to be more precise; in the alpha layer of the textures. It has nothing to do with the model.

Cheers,
Huub

Hanimichal
August 5th, 2016, 06:44
Slowly but working in the new exterior engine HD 4096 x 4096

https://s32.postimg.org/z78ru52p1/AA_2016_1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/u8l9flyw1/)posted image (https://postimage.org/)

Obie311
August 5th, 2016, 06:48
Please excuse my thick-headiness, but please explain to me the correct procedure and sequence for adapting V2 liveries to the new V3 VVC standards. Some of mine have converted just peachy but I have a couple that are not right. One example is the texture for USAF.SEA.

Thanks in advance.

Obie

DaveB
August 5th, 2016, 06:59
Hi Dave.
Please could you tell me how you made the cowls shiny on Ron's air atlantique cos I would also like to do it.I have Miss Viginia by the way.

Cheers Chris

Hiya Chris:wavey:
There are a couple of ways you can go about it. Looking at the cowl textures on Ron's paint and Miss Virginia.. there's very little difference. The main one is the exhaust bluing around the cowl flaps. Looking at the alphas.. that's where the main differences are. Ron's alpha for that map is light grey.. Miss Virginia's is black over the front covers. It also has banana bob's chrome env map included and the combination gives the lovely polished chrome finish. What I did was a basic cut'n'shut taking the engine textures off Miss Virginia and adding them to the AA map. I needn't have done this on reflection. The important change was to copy the engine area off Miss Virginia's alpha and add it to the AA map's alpha then drop bb's chrome env map into the AA texture folder. Robert is your proverbial uncle;)

To save you the effort.. I've uploaded the map HERE (http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/aac472T.zip)
Backup your original AA 2T map.. drop this one in it's place then copy the GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome.dds map from Miss Virginia and drop it into the AA texture folder.

All credit to Ron for the original (which I love) and to Allen for the Miss Virginia paint:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

fuzz1
August 5th, 2016, 07:08
Hani that's great news, looking forward to this one.

Will you also be redoing your Buffalo (weathered) livery for v3?

YoYo
August 5th, 2016, 10:05
Thanks good news YoYo! Looking forward to your olive drab creations. I Your new repaint will definitely be a R4D!

BTW uploading here at the SOH is really very easy.

Cheers,
Huub

.... so here is preview in the final way :wavey: .

Yes, it's correct answer for sure. Here is the preview of famous (for simmers also!) DC-3/R4D-6 Dakota from FS2004 time and MAAM museum.
Not fresh factory, the crew for cleaning on the holiday!

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwrexe.jpg

http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwnrss.jpg

http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwnrsa.jpg

Notice that this skin is grey-silver. RL airplane isn't bare metal.
btw. model has a some of limitation so it isn't in 100% with the real one, something like 95% ;>. Regards.

Bomber_12th
August 5th, 2016, 10:15
It looks superb, YoYo, and it's great to see the silver paint depicted an accurate shade.

tgycgijoes
August 5th, 2016, 11:23
That's a decent first effort mate:encouragement:

A few points you should be able to adjust.. the white on the roof should extend fwd of the aerial above the flightdeck. The upper orange/dayglo goes all the way down the dorsal. Take the 'BOLD' off the N.DAK.AIR GUARD titles and move it fwd (it starts mid-way through the window above the wing LE). The fin looks white too.. not silver.

Not the easiest paint to take on as a first effort. Good job thus far;)
ATB
DaveB

Thank you for taking the time...I have done a lot of complex B737s with Virtual Alaska Airlines with the Disney repaints and some difficult original nose art in A2A B-17s but always worked in Paintshop Pro with blank texture dds files or was able to "patch over" NOT PSD. This was 21 hours of work non-stop so I appreciate your encouragement. I may wait until next week until I open this up again unless I feel like punishing myself later. LOL. I can't help it, I just don't like Adobe Photoshop much preferring Corel Paintshop Pro but it does not properly open up the layered PSD file. Again, thank you for taking the time to point out the stuff to fix.

DaveB
August 5th, 2016, 12:23
Thank you for taking the time...I have done a lot of complex B737s with Virtual Alaska Airlines with the Disney repaints and some difficult original nose art in A2A B-17s but always worked in Paintshop Pro with blank texture dds files or was able to "patch over" NOT PSD. This was 21 hours of work non-stop so I appreciate your encouragement. I may wait until next week until I open this up again unless I feel like punishing myself later. LOL. I can't help it, I just don't like Adobe Photoshop much preferring Corel Paintshop Pro but it does not properly open up the layered PSD file. Again, thank you for taking the time to point out the stuff to fix.

I know exactly how you feel mate. I've used PS Elements for years. It's like the proverbial old pair of gloves. I know what it can do.. what it can't do and the things I have to do to make it work for me. As things have progressed, many PSD's will only open with CS2 (without losing layer detail) and some won't even open with that. I dislike CS2 with a passion and am never happy using it:dizzy: Thanks for taking my comments in the spirit they were intended:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

gman5250
August 5th, 2016, 13:45
Another in a series of WWII skins, C-47A Skytrain' SN: 42-92841. The "Turf and Sport Special" was a 61st Troop Carrier Squadron C-47A that took part in Operation "Market Garden" during September of 1944.

Link
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?101765-Douglas-C-47-V3-Turf-and-Sport-Special-zip

I was lucky enough to find some good exterior/interior shots of this airplane and put together a cockpit color scheme to closely re-produce the warbird.

Interior:
Green with black yoke and quadrant. Canvas seat covers with tan leather armrests. I've done some detailing on many of the parts, adding occlusion shadowing where appropriate, dirt and wear to the metal seat buckets, scratches to the window frames, and a bunch of personalizing to give this plane/interior combination a unique signature. The interior textures are based on originals by Jan Visser. All modifications/adaptations are by me and intended to be specific for this airplane. Feel free to alias other models to this interior texture, but please don't use my (or anyone else's) texture sheets in your own skins without permission.

Exterior:
DXT5 4096 x 4096 resolution with enhanced bump maps and specular files. I chose to represent the airplane as it would have appeared throughout it's long service life, rather than in the restored version. Maybe I'll do that one later on, or leave it for one of our skinners.



Shown here in Prepar3D V 3.3.5 | HDR Enabled | ASN 2016 Weather

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8705/28505613280_343da77763_o.jpg

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8057/28712866671_abe42e1ee1_o.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7509/28758234676_75da6edf46_o.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7639/28684916482_0a78a21321_o.jpg

napacon
August 5th, 2016, 15:05
Thank you sir..just BEAUTIFUL and Historical..As always great job..Wonderful model!

Bomber_12th
August 5th, 2016, 15:40
A few of my favorite C-47's/C-53's flying today:

C-47 "Betty's Biscuit Bomber" N47SJ from the Gooney Bird Group (the fresh shade of early olive drab on this one is awesome): https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N47SJ&sort=date-taken-desc
C-47 "Willa Dean" N791HH from the Lyon Air Museum: https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N791HH&sort=date-taken-desc
C-53 "D-Day Doll" N45366 from the Inland Empire Wing of the Commemorative Air Force: https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc&advanced=1&text=N45366
C-47 "What's Up Doc" N60154 from the Palm Springs Air Museum: https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N60154&sort=date-taken-desc
C-53 "The Duchess of Dakota" N603MC from the Texas Flying Legends Museum (on two occasions, has sported temporary brushed-on/mopped-on invasion stripes and wartime graffiti): https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N603MC

My absolute favorite...

C-47 "Drag-'Em-Oot" N473DC from the Dakota Heritage Inc. Trust (flown/based in England - one of the few to have the Rebecca antennas fitted, like the FS model): https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N473DC&sort=date-taken-desc

(Anyone wishing to do this one, note that the letter and serial on the tail are the same shade of grey as the "3X" by the nose.)

(https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=N473DC&sort=date-taken-desc)http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/c47_zpsdes9yner.jpg~original

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2895/14342273202_a3227b815f_b.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Bomber_12th/Bomber_12th001/C47%20N473DC%20d4_zpsblnh67jj.jpg~original (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Bomber_12th/media/Bomber_12th001/c47_zpsdes9yner.jpg.html)

Ian Warren
August 5th, 2016, 16:16
Having a bit of a chuckle here :biggrin-new:, Marty stopped in checking on latest projects, showing him one paint I'm working on , showed him were I spilled the can of paint, couple blobs of light blue rolling around on the tires, course only one tires until you taxi .. blop blop blop , this was all giving a little lesson and showing the ease of painting what to look for , he's off home now maybe to try it out himself.

tgycgijoes
August 5th, 2016, 16:47
Thanks to DaveB for pointing out a few mistakes in my ND ANG repaint above. Here is it with all the changes (except one). I have taken a shot of the PSD to show what it does where the dorsal fin is supposed to be but there's just a dip in the top of the fuselage. Meaning I am sure it is elsewhere and the mdl file puts it there. I can't paint it orange if I can't find it though. If memory serves the PSD was created by ********. Hey Gordon will you take a picture and put an arrow where the dorsal fin is on the PSD in the paint kit so I can make it orange. Thank you.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41571&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41572&stc=1

Butcherbird17
August 5th, 2016, 17:41
Another one almost done. Got a few others that I have been working on that need some more work then I will upload here.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_NARF_01_zpsnin8y6ps.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_NARF_01_zpsnin8y6ps.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_NARF_02_zps16koaqt4.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_NARF_02_zps16koaqt4.jpg.html)

Joe

Bomber_12th
August 5th, 2016, 17:42
That looks gorgeous, Joe! I will definitely be looking forward to that one.

Butcherbird17
August 5th, 2016, 17:50
That looks gorgeous, Joe! I will definitely be looking forward to that one.

Thanks John, just a few stencils that I need to find for the doors and that one will be finished.

joe

Ian Warren
August 5th, 2016, 18:19
I repeat John's exact words .. except 'Friggen Gorgeous' , such a brilliant and easy paint kit to work with, that result super thumbs up from here:encouragement:

Timbohobo
August 5th, 2016, 18:53
Would love it if someone picked this up, love the simple lines

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Catalina_Flying_Boats_DC-3_(2145666874).jpg

ryanbatc
August 5th, 2016, 19:24
Woah! Awesome paint

fuzz1
August 5th, 2016, 19:25
Gordon, thanks for your outstanding T&S Special. I seem to be having a problem with missing textures in the VC however. I note that certain VC files are .bmp's rather than .dds and wonder if perhaps this has anything to do with it. I'm using FSX if that makes a difference.

Oh, and thanks for your cowl indicator fix on KG374. That bird is now absolutely perfect.

gman5250
August 5th, 2016, 19:55
Gordon, thanks for your outstanding T&S Special. I seem to be having a problem with missing textures in the VC however. I note that certain VC files are .bmp's rather than .dds and wonder if perhaps this has anything to do with it. I'm using FSX if that makes a difference.

Oh, and thanks for your cowl indicator fix on KG374. That bird is now absolutely perfect.

Thanks for pointing that out fuzz1. Gremlins....

Just delete those .bmp files, the sim is defaulting to those instead of the .dds files.
Corrected files are uploading as of the time of this post.

fuzz1
August 5th, 2016, 20:57
That fixed it Gordon, appreciate your lightning response to this.
This VC is superb, not to mention the exterior. You're not exactly making it easy to pick a favorite.

Flyboy208
August 5th, 2016, 21:06
No issues at all for me Gordon for this stellar skin/paint and VVC mod .... awesome work ! Mike :applause:

Jafo
August 5th, 2016, 21:52
I repeat John's exact words .. except 'Friggen Gorgeous' , such a brilliant and easy paint kit to work with, that result super thumbs up from here:encouragement:

Ditto....
So far I've been using a seriously dumbed-down Paint Kit....sort of opened in PE 5 which lost much of the layers....then had to flatten each one to save as a layered [but simpler] PSD that I could then open with my weapon-of-choice which is PSP6. So roughly 8 layers each of which were 'flat' from which to rework into a 'functional' PSP 'kit'.

Since then I remembered I had PSPX on an old computer and whacked it on here alongside the 6. Now I could 'mostly' load the full PSD and get it to save as a PSP6-compatible PSP file....and find there are squillions of layers.

But, since I'm a creature of habit I'm just picking and choosing some of the layers and adding them to what I'd already come up with....since I'm used to what I'd got so far.

Colour me weird....but it works for me.

At least now I have actual transparent rivet layers and stuff...;)

[good thing I'd only released one paint so far....but am about to upload 4 more]

Ian Warren
August 5th, 2016, 22:59
[good thing I'd only released one paint so far....but am about to upload 4 more]
Looking forward to your efforts ... here I am and again simply get stopped by visits .. but that is still all good :untroubled:

DaveWG
August 6th, 2016, 01:54
http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/DakotaNorway.jpg

Regular Duxford visitor.

huub vink
August 6th, 2016, 03:46
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-8-6_13-16-32-749_zpsjrcd57lt.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-8-6_13-16-32-749_zpsjrcd57lt.jpg.html)

A really beautiful skin!

Huub

DaveB
August 6th, 2016, 05:25
@Joe.. that's a lovely paint mate:encouragement:
@DWG.. Likewise. Glad you revisited that one. Another instant download for me:encouragement:

@tgycgijoes.. That already looks better mate. I've a feeling that the white on the upper roof should come fwd of the roof aerial. Can't find a shot of her at the correct angle but looking at how close it comes to the flightdeck side windows.. I reckon it does go fwd of the aerial. Maybe the text should come a wee bit more fwd too.
I've not looked at the PK yet but looking at Joe's paint with all orange fin and dorsal.. it seems to coincide with the dent in the roof shown on the PK. Will take a look this afternoon;)
ATB
DaveB:)

J.M.CASTILLA
August 6th, 2016, 06:05
beautiful
each day I like it more
this bird c47
simple and nice
more and better :jump:

Jafo
August 6th, 2016, 06:13
Now that I've got hold of the layers [mostly] I've been reworking the Gooney Bird ..... certainly missed a few things...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41580&stc=1

DaveWG
August 6th, 2016, 06:30
http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/DakotaNorway2010.jpg

LN-WND earlier version.

DaveB
August 6th, 2016, 07:31
@tgycgijoes..

I've had a quick look at the PK and sadly.. I loose all the layer components as PSE can't open them. However, there IS a wireframe which shows where the dorsal is on the fin. Joe (Butcherbird) has nailed it on his dayglo paint and he must have found it using the wireframe:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

YoYo
August 6th, 2016, 08:40
It looks superb, YoYo, and it's great to see the silver paint depicted an accurate shade.

Thank You John! Few more pictures of MAAM repaint. I'll upload this skin Today/Tomorrow.

http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwwrwp.jpg

http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwwrha.jpg

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwwhsq.jpg

Navy Chief
August 6th, 2016, 09:33
Oh yeah! Thanks in advance for the NATS repaint, Yo Yo! :encouragement: NC

tgycgijoes
August 6th, 2016, 09:43
@tgycgijoes..

I've had a quick look at the PK and sadly.. I loose all the layer components as PSE can't open them. However, there IS a wireframe which shows where the dorsal is on the fin. Joe (Butcherbird) has nailed it on his dayglo paint and he must have found it using the wireframe:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

Thanks Dave, I didn't think of the wireframe. Will go back to Photoshop and wireframe it and put some color there. I don't think that I get the wireframe in Paintshop Pro either tho you DO get some of the layers "discomboobilated" LOL. I am getting pretty good at pairing off with both programs. That's how I cut and pasted the corrections to move the white further forward until it got to where it belonged. Like the "working partnership" between Sketchup/Model Converter X/Airport Design Editor it is just taking me practice and trial and error workups.

Signed
"Too Stubborn To Quit"

LOL

DaveB
August 6th, 2016, 09:45
Signed
"Too Stubborn To Quit"


hahahahahahaha:biggrin-new::ernaehrung004:

ATB
DaveB:)

Tim-HH
August 6th, 2016, 09:53
Thanks a lot for your excellent repaints, Yoyo! :applause:

Greetings
Tim

CaptainMal
August 6th, 2016, 10:04
Hi All:

If I could, please, I need some help with a repaint I would like to do of the DC3 v3.12 beta. Using the DC-3 v3.12 paint kit, I produced this paint of a former Government of Canada aircraft:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41585&stc=1

What I would like to do is this aircraft:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41586&stc=1

However, I am the worst repainter ever, and although I know a fair bit about repainting, as long as it involves straight lines, I still have much to learn. Highly polished aluminum surfaces is one of them.

As I understand polish, it is determined by the alpha channel. I have downloaded both the paint kit and the paint kit basics, both of which have alpha layers, but neither of which has an alpha channel. My question is how do I make an alpha channel out of an alpha layer? How do I use the paint kit to get a highly polished metal surface?

Yes, I have read and followed my manual, searched and read in the forums, and watched multiple youtube videos. Following any of those instructions has not worked. I assume I'm doing something wrong, or missing a step.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Douglas

cavaricooper
August 6th, 2016, 10:28
YoYo-

MAAM looks lovely! Haven't flown her since FS9! Any chance of a peek at her VC? Did you use black???

Fingers x'ed!

Ta- C

Bomber_12th
August 6th, 2016, 11:57
For a close match to the MAAM R4D cockpit, you would need to go with medium-dark grey cockpit textures:

(http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_cockpit.htm)http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_cockpit.htm
http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_panels.htm

Skyhawk18
August 6th, 2016, 12:19
Textures made for previous versions of the C-47.
SAS "Fritdjof Viking" and a livery for the RNoAF

http://www.gunnarvm.com/C47/6.jpg

http://www.gunnarvm.com/C47/3.jpg

http://www.gunnarvm.com/C47/1.jpg

http://www.gunnarvm.com/C47/8.jpg

cavaricooper
August 6th, 2016, 14:09
For a close match to the MAAM R4D cockpit, you would need to go with medium-dark grey cockpit textures:

(http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_cockpit.htm)http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_cockpit.htm
http://www.maam.org/airshow/r4d_panels.htm

Thanks John! Can't wait to see her in person :)

Best- C

Timmy74
August 6th, 2016, 14:52
"Textures made for previous versions of the C-47.SAS "Fritdjof Viking" and a livery for the RNoAF"

Oh.....YES PLEASE!!!!

Thank you for doing these fantastic paints!! :jump::jump::jump:

Regards,
Tim..

Portia911
August 6th, 2016, 15:58
"Textures made for previous versions of the C-47.SAS "Fritdjof Viking" and a livery for the RNoAF"

Oh.....YES PLEASE!!!!

Thank you for doing these fantastic paints!! :jump::jump::jump:

Regards,
Tim..

Yes please here too. I've been hoping for a region/era suitable skin (DNL/ SAS) to fly in ORBX Norway. I've been flying a nice RNoAF Anson there and it would be great to be able to move up to a C-47.

Timmy74
August 6th, 2016, 16:06
http://daveg.cbfsim.org/screens/DakotaNorway2010.jpg

LN-WND earlier version.

Hello Dave. She looks amazing! When will she be available please?
:jump:
Cheers,
Tim..

Bomber_12th
August 6th, 2016, 16:48
Hello Dave. She looks amazing! When will she be available please?

Here's the download: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=184&linkid=21718

slimcooper2016
August 6th, 2016, 17:12
Does anyone know where I can get the polished USAF "Miss Virginia" livery?

triflyman
August 6th, 2016, 17:22
[QUOTE=Skyhawk18;1037684]Textures made for previous versions of the C-47.
SAS "Fritdjof Viking" and a livery for the RNoAF

Where can I get these...I searched 4 sites and no luck.

Thanks,

Butcherbird17
August 6th, 2016, 17:29
The NARF paint is finished just need to make some thumbnails and edit the cfg's and type up a readme to be uploaded.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_NARF_03_zpsmfpgainw.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_NARF_03_zpsmfpgainw.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_NARF_04_zpsydst0tsh.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_NARF_04_zpsydst0tsh.jpg.html)

Also did this one today. I did this one like the NARF paint w/polished metal, but also did the painted version she wore in real
world. Just need to do the alpha for the painted version and do all the same stuff as above before I zip it up.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_USMC_01_zpsigyo7isw.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_USMC_01_zpsigyo7isw.jpg.html)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_USMC_02_zpskvwqaayq.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_USMC_02_zpskvwqaayq.jpg.html)

Joe

Navy Chief
August 6th, 2016, 17:44
Does anyone know where I can get the polished USAF "Miss Virginia" livery?


Try this....from a post on the A2A forums:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/luhmbwul5cwcrws/texture.Miss+Virginia.zip

NC

ryanbatc
August 6th, 2016, 17:45
Does anyone know where I can get the polished USAF "Miss Virginia" livery?

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?300370-Miss-Virginia-repaint-for-the-C-47-v3

As for Joe's paints... holy cow those are amazing!

rsvette123
August 6th, 2016, 19:23
Joe those are stunning - super job

YoYo amazing work also

fuzz1
August 6th, 2016, 21:05
I'll also add my sincere thanks and appreciation to everyone who has had a hand in bringing this beauty to us and to all the talented painters who continue its beautification. I've hardly flown anything else since v3's birth.
You know this really does remind me of the old days when people contributed their time and effort for sheer advancement of the hobby and not just for commercial purposes. It's wonderful to see this generosity and
selflessness again in such large measure.

I've put this bird to all sorts of unspeakable uses that have provided me with immense sim entertainment. You can actually bush fly this aircraft into some really tight spots; my latest adventures include Yoyo's excellent Swamp Rat, making
crucial supply runs to the mission strips around Kokoda in Orbx's PNG experience. I've learned you CAN fly in and out of at least 1/2 those white knuckle strips. The other half I don't want to talk about.

Jafo
August 6th, 2016, 21:51
Reworked the specs and lots of 'little bits'....
Now I'll have to re-up as version 2 or something...;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41601&stc=1

ncooper
August 6th, 2016, 22:17
This Wrigley repaint is up at Flightsim.com, texture_wrigley.zip

https://s19.postimg.org/t9b466mfn/Untitled.jpg

Timmy74
August 6th, 2016, 22:34
[QUOTE=Skyhawk18;1037684]Textures made for previous versions of the C-47.
SAS "Fritdjof Viking" and a livery for the RNoAF

Where can I get these...I searched 4 sites and no luck.

Thanks,

Plus one!!

Timmy74
August 6th, 2016, 22:35
Here's the download: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=184&linkid=21718

Thank you John. :wiggle:

Portia911
August 7th, 2016, 03:19
This Wrigley repaint is up at Flightsim.com, texture_wrigley.zip

https://s19.postimg.org/t9b466mfn/Untitled.jpg

Thanks Nick, that rich cream paint job just oozes retro class.

Ron Attwood
August 7th, 2016, 10:53
I've got to stop painting and start downloading! There are some fantastic paints on offer.

Meantime, my own humble offering.

In it's original Royal Air Force Transport Command colours. She was eventually demobbed and bought by Air Atlantique among others And re registered G-AMPY




http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41631&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41632&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41633&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41634&stc=1

Uploaded to SOH, AVSIM and MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/download/tcflu0ag34bgwc1/C-47_RAF+Transport+Command.zip)

cavaricooper
August 7th, 2016, 12:19
Ron-

Should be lovely for running around Duckie- just the ticket!

Ta!

C

Butcherbird17
August 7th, 2016, 12:27
Just uploaded the NARF and USMC paints to the library. Just need to wait for Rami to approve them.
Here is a pic of the painted USMC bird.......

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_USMC_03_zpsjtahoak7.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_USMC_03_zpsjtahoak7.jpg.html)

Joe

ryanbatc
August 7th, 2016, 12:49
Great! Love to fly them all as N numbers

YoYo
August 7th, 2016, 14:51
My "Silver series" Incoming. Need some of bare metal and shiny? This will be for You.

Preview of "Bluebonnet Belle".

http://s10.ifotos.pl/img/C-47B-DC-_apwqers.jpg

MAAM is grey-silver:

http://s2.ifotos.pl/img/Prepar3D-_apwqexh.jpg

ryanbatc
August 7th, 2016, 17:34
Oooh! I love that CAF paint yoyo! :jump:

johndetrick
August 7th, 2016, 18:16
Just uploaded the NARF and USMC paints to the library. Just need to wait for Rami to approve them.
Here is a pic of the painted USMC bird.......

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Butcherbird17/R4D-5_USMC_03_zpsjtahoak7.jpg~original (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/Butcherbird17/media/R4D-5_USMC_03_zpsjtahoak7.jpg.html)

Joe


Looks Good. i did that one for the C47 v2.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=154514

Jafo
August 7th, 2016, 19:14
I had some decent pics of the Gooney Bird...and found even the Prop logo was NQR ....seems the red had faded and was lighter than the rest....so redid the prop and then reworked the colour/alpha/spec of the engine....
Eventually I'll upload....;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41652&stc=1

huub vink
August 8th, 2016, 03:50
My "Silver series" Incoming. Need some of bare metal and shiny? This will be for You.




I think they are perfect Yoyo :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

DaveB
August 8th, 2016, 06:24
http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/kn6281.jpg

http://daveb.cbfsim.org/public/kn6282.jpg

A lovely job by Ted on Monties personal transport.
Anyone fancy doing another 24Sqn paint.. KG770? It's a CIII which took the King and Queen to the Channel Islands after the war. You'd need to get the polish out though!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._24_Squadron_RAF#/media/File:Dakota_24_Sqn_RAF_with_King_George_VI_in_flig ht_1945.jpg

ATB
DaveB:)

manfredc3
August 8th, 2016, 07:35
Loving the R3D-6 "Skytrain" paint.

That was one of my favorite paints in FSX withthe MAAM rendition.

Butcherbird17
August 8th, 2016, 08:28
A lovely job by Ted on Monties personal transport.
Anyone fancy doing another 24Sqn paint.. KG770? It's a CIII which took the King and Queen to the Channel Islands after the war. You'd need to get the polish out though!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._24_Squadron_RAF#/media/File:Dakota_24_Sqn_RAF_with_King_George_VI_in_flig ht_1945.jpg

ATB
DaveB


Hey Dave,
You got any other pics for KG770? The more the better especially the whats painted on the nose. You can't really see what it is
from that pic. I could knock that one up pretty quick.

Joe

DaveB
August 8th, 2016, 08:32
Hey Dave,
You got any other pics for KG770? The more the better especially the whats painted on the nose. You can't really see what it is
from that pic. I could knock that one up pretty quick.

Joe

I'll see what I can dig up Joe:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

Butcherbird17
August 8th, 2016, 08:35
Sounds good Dave. You know how to get a hold of me.:encouragement:

Joe

DaveB
August 8th, 2016, 09:33
Joe..

Hit a slight conflict of information:banghead: I was going to say that the logo on the nose would be the same as the after-most one on Ted's paint but.. that one, also shown in a number of decal packs for a variety of models, is NOT the 24 Sqn logo. It carries the correct 24Sqn motto in latin 'IN OMNIA PARATI' (Prepared for all things) but 24Sqn's logo is a Blackcock.. not Pegasus as shown in the decal packs. Pegasus is the Airbourne Division logo. You may ask why is the Airbourne Division logo carried with 24Sqn's motto and rightly so:dizzy:
Now then.. Montgomery was a key figure behind Operation Market Garden (possibly an assumption by the decal manufacturers that the logo would be Pegasus) but as the operation was (to all intents) a failure.. I can't see Monty having this on the side of his personal aircraft.

I'll keep looking but initial findings are disappointing.
ATB
DaveB:)

Butcherbird17
August 8th, 2016, 09:57
Well as they say.... It was "A Bridge to Far" ......:wavey:

For now I will get the ground crew to work on an old battle weary DaK sitting back behind the barn and to
start stripping the paint off and polishing her up.

Joe

511Flyer
August 8th, 2016, 10:23
Hi Dave. Just Google 24 Sqdn and you will find the badge. During my 4 years at RAF Colerne, I was servicing the Hastings of 24 and 511 Squadrons. Incidentally, it was 24(C), a commonwealth squadron. I well remember the CO, WC Hitchens RAAF during that time. They still had two Hastings C4's, which were very shiny VIP aircraft. No, I never had to polish them.

Den.

DaveB
August 8th, 2016, 10:29
Hi Den:wavey:

Yup.. I'd found the badge using my old mate BING then looked into the history of the squadron. I couldn't remember the badge on Ted's 'Monty' paint looking like a Blackcock so had another look and found Pegasus with 24 Squadrons motto:dizzy: I feel sure that the logo on the front should be a Blackcock and not Pegasus but don't want to put Joe in a position where he releases a paint with the wrong logo.
The Hastings carried it on the fin didn't they??
ATB
DaveB:)

DaveB
August 8th, 2016, 12:18
The KG770 plot thickens!!

The King and Queen actually went to the Channel Islands on HMS Jamaica and used the Dakota to travel between the islands. Pathe captured the event.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1MDSsEFMc&feature=youtu.be .

That particular aircraft is KN386:dizzy: I've found reference to say that the badge on the nose is that of RAF Transport Command (rather than 24 Sqn) but I've yet to find a shot clean enough to confirm it.
ATB
DaveB:)

tgycgijoes
August 8th, 2016, 16:05
This took ALL DAY for me to figure out how to get the dorsal on the fuselage painted even with ButcherBird17's generous help. I don't know if its just me or the model which is beautiful though it contains the C47 D-Day paint and couldn't get MY& paint to show up with it to see what I was doing. That said, after much trial and error...the dorsal on the right has less paint than the one on the left and "voila" (FR.) its done. I want to thank DaveB for starting all the trouble. JUST KIDDING. My old business partner, Adrian, was very fond of saying "We do it right, or we don't do it" and that is what I kept telling myself everytime I looked at it in FSX and it still wasn't right. Here is a picture of 42-93800 on the runway at KFAR, Hector Field. I'm happy with it now, hope you will be. I will upload this to the Warbirds Library and share. The emblem on the nose is the insignia of the 178th Fighter Intercepter Squadron "Happy Hooligans" and if you look close enough the crew has it on their squadron ballcaps.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41670&stc=1

ryanbatc
August 8th, 2016, 16:48
Very nice! I've flown in and out of FAR a few times.

tgycgijoes
August 8th, 2016, 17:44
How are you guys filling the screen with your photos. I would like to make mine larger when posted.

Butcherbird17
August 8th, 2016, 18:51
Hey Richard,

A little tip for lining up the left and right sides, paint the left side first (it's the top fuselage in the PK).
Once done make a duplicate layer and then drag it down to the right side. Here is where the wire
frame (mesh layer) comes into good use for lining them up.

When I start using any paint kit I outline one side of the fuselage and wings in a base color and clean
it up using the wire frame. Then I save that layer to use for all the rest of my paints by just duplicating
the layer then I can change the color or cut out parts for the new paint.

One thing I noticed on your paint is that you need to paint the cargo door hinge. They are located at
the top to the right of the engine parts. Other than that it's looking good.



How are you guys filling the screen with your photos. I would like to make mine larger when posted.

I use photobucket for hosting my pics, there are other free photo sharing sites out there.


Joe