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huub vink
July 23rd, 2016, 11:45
JustFlight has released their Hawk. Until the first of August it is available for a reduced price:

http://www.justflight.com/product/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer

Cheers,
Huub

hairyspin
July 23rd, 2016, 23:57
Looks terrific, sadly I'm skint after our holiday...

dhazelgrove
July 24th, 2016, 02:35
https://s20.postimg.org/85cyedg4t/fsx+2016-07-24 11-23-23-70.jpg

https://s20.postimg.org/8wa9xw7vx/fsx+2016-07-24 11-23-45-72.jpg

Fly Navy - Sail Army - Walk Sideways!

Dave

YoYo
July 25th, 2016, 10:56
Btw. http://www.justflight.com/support/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer/a8404f0 (good job with this). :applause:

Ferry_vO
July 25th, 2016, 12:40
My favorite Hawk livery:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2021-57-13-94_zpsbjof3ile.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2021-57-13-94_zpsbjof3ile.jpg.html)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2021-59-09-41_zpskazluhvg.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2021-59-09-41_zpskazluhvg.jpg.html)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2022-00-15-62_zpsc05gmkwn.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2022-00-15-62_zpsc05gmkwn.jpg.html)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Ferror/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2022-02-50-49_zpsfvizitof.jpg~original (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/Ferror/media/Flightsim/fsx%202016-07-25%2022-02-50-49_zpsfvizitof.jpg.html)

DaveB
July 25th, 2016, 13:30
Yikes.. wish I could agree Ferry. Don't think I've ever seen a scheme look so bad on a Hawk:dizzy:

Who cares though. Each to their own;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Victory103
July 25th, 2016, 17:52
Thanks for the support link, read on the forums about using the DCS Hawk checklist as well. I'll take any scheme with "skull and bones".

Mach3DS
July 25th, 2016, 18:50
Is there going to be a CT-155 RCAF/NJJPT variant, does anyone know?

dhazelgrove
July 25th, 2016, 23:27
Is there going to be a CT-155 RCAF/NJJPT variant, does anyone know?

It would be nice to think that there might be models based on the Hawk 100-series and the Hawk 200-series airframes. Certainly, enough countries fly/flew them.
The case could be raised, but the decision would probably be based on commercial considerations.

We've been very lucky that Dino did the T-45, after all.
What about the Hawk 127 LIF (Australia)?

Personally, I'd like to see a Hawk T2 (based on the CF-155?).

Dave

Chris Sykes
July 26th, 2016, 01:48
Its nice but I also have the over "twitchy" pitch input, seems to happen especially when at lower airspeeds (around 130 knots?) had it happen on take off once and also on landing about twice where just entered a osculation then stalled.
Another thing that seems to be odd is the weapons load locations, from pictures the CBLS is normally loaded on the inner pylons not the outer, I am not saying this is wrong but seems to be normally on the inners...

Ferry_vO
July 26th, 2016, 03:04
As far as I Know the only interchanged parts between the Hawk T1 and the T2 are the canopy and the air brake so that would require a totally new model and VC.

Chris Sykes
July 26th, 2016, 23:46
The T2 is based on the Mk128.

Found this "Hawk Story" http://aerosociety.com/Assets/Docs/Publications/The%20Journal%20of%20Aeronautical%20History/2013-01_HawkStory-Fraser-Mitchell.pdf online (good read for anyone interested in the Hawk) and this stated that for RAF use only the inner pylons are provided... (Page 39) Going to pass this info over to Just Flight...


For the RAF aircraft, only inner wing pylons are provided, capable of mounting weapon trainer

stores up to 1,500 lb weight, but export versions of the aircraft carry up to five wing and

centreline pylons, the inner ones being capable of carrying external fuel tanks with capacities

of 100, 130 and 190 imperial gallons each. The maximum weight of external stores in this case

could be up to 6,800 lb (which has been demonstrated).

joe bob
July 27th, 2016, 02:21
I have given the Hawk a workout tonight and thought I would share my observations.
Things I have noticed that may not be obvious since there is no documentation on actually flying it.

It is pitch sensitive no doubt but also be aware that with a short nose and high eye point, you get the impression that you are not pitched as high as you actually are. This leads to over rotation on takeoff and being slow on approach.
It just takes some getting used to. The Aerosoft OV-10 is the same way.

The controls are powered by the number two Hydraulic system. That system requires a minimum amount of engine rpm to work. In fact the test of the Ram Air Turbine when airborne is to throttle back to idle and move the controls vigorously.
I believe this is what is causing some of the aileron problems. check the #2 hydraulic gauge by your left leg, forward right of the throttle when at low power, also look outside and see if the RAT has deployed. Once you get your rpm back up press the #2 hydraulic reset button to retract the RAT and get things back to normal. All this reminds me of the F-104 and it's requirement to maintain a certain rpm for the blown flaps to work, therefore it is good to add drag when at low power settings.


I found airspeed on rotation and final approach to be critical to be firmly in control of pitch. I don't rotate on takeoff below 110 to 120 knots, I fly final at 150 knots, pulling back power when landing is assured.
Take it up and configure it for takeoff and landing, see what airspeed it stalls at and figure your rotation and final approach speeds you are comfortable with, that is how I came up with my numbers.
As I said earlier, glance at the artificial horizon on final to see how much the nose is pitched up. For me it always feels as if I am flat when I am actually at landing attitude. Same goes for climb out. The low instrument panel/ high eye point really can fool you.

IanHenry
July 27th, 2016, 02:53
For anyone interested there's a website run by an RAF Hawk instructor called Fast Jet Performance .com:

http://www.fastjetperformance.com/

He gives lots of lessons via YouTube films, all good stuff.


Ian

joe bob
July 28th, 2016, 09:30
I have done some very mundane test flying to produce fuel burn figures for the Just Flight Hawk
I am going to make a graph with air speed gained vs fuel burn increased if anyone is interested.

Until then I thought I would share some results so you can figure how much fuel you are using.

rpm ---10,000 feet --- 20,000 feet--- 30,000 feet


78% -- 406 KgH -- 331KgH --- ----

80% -- 447 KgH -- 372 KgH -- 285 KgH

84% --580 KgH ---454 KgH---335 KgH

88% -- 700 KgH -- 535 KgH--- ----

92%-- 797 KgH -- 590 KgH --- 419 KgH


Fuel burn is basically linear

joe bob
July 31st, 2016, 15:29
Does anyone else find that the course setting dial on the HSI sometimes only moves in 10's, the next flight it might only move in ones?
I have looked at the manual and I don't see where you can alternate between the two

Martyn
August 1st, 2016, 04:36
Does anyone else find that the course setting dial on the HSI sometimes only moves in 10's, the next flight it might only move in ones?
I have looked at the manual and I don't see where you can alternate between the two

That sounds like an issue that might be caused by 'event flooding' which is a relatively simple issue to fix. I have reported it to my colleagues in the Hawk dev team.

EDIT: Our testing team have already reported this and it's being fixed. Regarding the FDE issues, please take a look at this FAQ - http://www.justflight.com/support/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer/f993011

JosefK
August 1st, 2016, 17:59
Wonder if we'll ever see a good Hawk 115, Hawk 127 & Hawk 128 one day.

Martyn
September 6th, 2016, 05:49
Service Pack 1 is now available for the Hawk T1 - http://www.justflight.com/support/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer/53eafec



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Brand new flight model.
Option to enable nosewheel steering added to configuration tool.
Interactive checklist added.
Hydraulic system draining during flight manoeuvres - fixed
Some ordnance not showing in VC – fixed.
Stall horn removed and replaced with buffet rumble noise.
Default sim battery will automatically be turned on to prevent engine start problems.
Text overlap on radio unit – fixed
Joysticks with multiple throttle levers not working – fixed
P3D preview window issue fixed.


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RobM
September 6th, 2016, 11:10
Thank you Martyn, that's a huge improvement. I just took a quick flight and the Standard FDE feels very good.

Thanks again - Rob

Timmy74
September 7th, 2016, 02:13
Service Pack 1 is now available for the Hawk T1 - http://www.justflight.com/support/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer/53eafec


Brand new flight model.
Option to enable nosewheel steering added to configuration tool.
Interactive checklist added.
Hydraulic system draining during flight manoeuvres - fixed
Some ordnance not showing in VC – fixed.
Stall horn removed and replaced with buffet rumble noise.
Default sim battery will automatically be turned on to prevent engine start problems.
Text overlap on radio unit – fixed
Joysticks with multiple throttle levers not working – fixed
P3D preview window issue fixed.


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I for the life of me can not find

Option to enable nosewheel steering added to configuration tool.

anywhere in the manual or the config tool that pops up when you hit "shift 2"!?!?:banghead:

thefrog
September 7th, 2016, 02:34
I for the life of me can not find

Option to enable nosewheel steering added to configuration tool.

anywhere in the manual or the config tool that pops up when you hit "shift 2"!?!?:banghead:

If you click on "Hawk_ConfigApp.exe" in the Hawk airplane folder the config tool comes up. There might be another way to do this but I wouldn't know.

Timmy74
September 7th, 2016, 03:20
If you click on "Hawk_ConfigApp.exe" in the Hawk airplane folder the config tool comes up. There might be another way to do this but I wouldn't know.

Thank you very much. Also are you finding that the cross hair is not on the HUD but above it!!?!:banghead:

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/09/07/HUD.jpg

Dimus
September 7th, 2016, 03:24
Thank you very much. Also are you finding that the cross hair is not on the HUD but above it!!?!:banghead:

Yes I do. But I thought that it was a P3D issue and already reported in JF forum. Are you using P3D? The collimation procedure is different in FSX and P3D. The pipper may be showing OK in FSX but in P3D the projection is not limited to the HUD glass and it shows everywhere. I hope they will fix it as it is unusable now.

Timmy74
September 7th, 2016, 03:26
Yes I do. But I thought that it was a P3D issue and already reported in JF forum. Are you using P3D? The collimation procedure is different in FSX and P3D. The pipper may be showing OK in FSX but in P3D the projection is not limited to the HUD glass and it shows everywhere. I hope they will fix it as it is unusable now.

Yes this is in P3D. Have not tried it in FSX as yet....

RobM
September 7th, 2016, 05:50
If you click on "Hawk_ConfigApp.exe" in the Hawk airplane folder the config tool comes up. There might be another way to do this but I wouldn't know.

The Config folders, both for set up and failures, along with the Manual, are also in your Program files, under Just Flight/Hawk/

Thanks - Rob

spatialpro
September 7th, 2016, 11:04
Ahoy there!

I've made some repaints, which will appeal to Naval types. They are for a brace of 3 Hawks (codes 840, 846 & 849) currently in service with the Fleet Air Arm at HMS Seahawk, part of 736 NAS (callsign "Satan"). They should be available both here at SOH and at All Nodes in the near future, but in the meantime you can download direct from this link:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6gEOUK1wISNdXY2bGNoUE9DUk0

I'd appreciate any feedback...


Enjoy!


Andy

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8203/28903891143_f85364afac_c.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/L38ZQK)736NAS_JF_Hawk_repaints_screenshot_large (https://flic.kr/p/L38ZQK) by Andy Ford (https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/), on Flickr

Ian Warren
September 7th, 2016, 16:03
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/09/08/67f9e4.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/09/08/7a518c.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/09/08/855bc5.jpg

Dimus
September 7th, 2016, 22:58
The Hawk is not Tacpack configured.

Ian Warren
September 7th, 2016, 23:36
The Hawk is not Tacpack configured.
Hmm bugger seemed I made a mistake .. must I been something I picked up on other forums.

spatialpro
September 8th, 2016, 02:25
I think (hope) it will be though. For now it is a blast to fly, but someday it would be great to fire the Aden cannon etc!

736 NAS paints now available here at SOH:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?102245-736-NAS-Just-Flight-Hawk-T1-repaints-for-FSX-amp-P3D-zip

Ian Warren
September 8th, 2016, 12:03
Andy , I've d/load your paint, thanks for that, looks brilliant :very_drunk: Blast to fly alright, a complete package :encouragement:

spatialpro
September 8th, 2016, 12:52
I've created two more Royal Navy schemes for the Hawk, this time for the Fleet Requirements & Air Direction Unit (FRADU), which predated 736 NAS. The first is painted in a special scheme to celebrate Fly Navy 100 (1909-2009) and the second is painted in the standard scheme which preceded this, with just Fleet Air Arm golden wings on the tail fin.

As before these will be published on SOH and All Nodes, but in the meantime here is a Google Docs link for direct download:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6gEOUK1wISNN1IyMlQ1dG96eEE

Andy

https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8730/29439825012_593143c3ea_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LRuNiS)
FRADU repaint for the Just Flight Hawk T1 (https://flic.kr/p/LRuNiS) by Andy Ford (https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/), on Flickr

https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8180/29439820852_553324a9a4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LRuM59)
Fly Navy 100 repaint for the Just Flight Hawk T1 (https://flic.kr/p/LRuM59) by Andy Ford (https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy-ford/), on Flickr

Dimus
September 8th, 2016, 23:02
Those RN Hawk pains look very smart. Thanks Andy!

YoYo
March 10th, 2017, 10:18
Interesting. JF announced upgrade for his Hawk - TacPack edition.

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17097366_10154383481678499_942089178675231649_o.jp g?oh=0112b9c3d83ba1761684d2ff18b3bf29&oe=596BAADD

joe bob
March 10th, 2017, 10:44
Sweeeeeet!

RAS_JF
March 10th, 2017, 11:21
Sweeeeeet indeed! It's shaping up to be a whole load of fun.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy358/RichSlater/HawkTacpack%207.jpg

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy358/RichSlater/HawkTacpack%206.jpg

YoYo
March 11th, 2017, 10:21
New product page:

https://www.justflight.com/product/hawk-t1a-advanced-trainer-tacpack-edition .

JosefK
March 11th, 2017, 14:30
Sure hope JustFlight will also TacPack the Mosquito, the Eurofighter and the Tornado please. ;-)

delta_lima
March 11th, 2021, 22:56
Am itching to try the Hawk but the demo seems unavailable on the JF site.

Can anyone comment on the FPS performance of this aircraft? Say, with the Dino T-45 as benchmark.

@bazzar, pls advise if the demo can be made available again in due time? Thx