Savoia Marchetti S.79CS & T just uploaded

[mvg3d]

Hi Friends,
I have just uploaded my Savoia Marchetti S.79CS & T.... Of course it is a "porting", but .... Works also in FSX.
Note that all the textures are in 2048x2048 dds format.

Civilian "CS" (Competizione Sportiva=Sporting Race) versions of the known medium and torpedo bomber Savoia-Marchetti S.79 "Sparviero", deployed by Regia Aeronautica, or Italian Royal Air Force, were successfully flown (w/civil marks) in the "Istres-Damascus-Paris (Lindberg Cup)" 1937 air race, where they ranked the first three places of the final scoreboard. The also "civilian" "T" (Transatlantic) version of the very same S.79 performed exceptionally in the 1938 Atlantic crossing Roma-Dakar-Rio de Janeiro and in a 1939 experimental test meant to verify the feasibility of an airline passengers and mail line between Italy and South America for the civilian airlines (Ala Littoria S.A.- Linee Aeree Atlantiche, later called L.A.T.I./Linee Aeree Transcontinentali Italiane) over the routes of Southern Atlantic Ocean (Brazil/Argentina/Equador).
3 new different GMax models, covering 3 different versions of the civilian S.79 described above and featuring the standard animated parts, such as all flight controls, props pitch and leading-edge slats. Ten (10) different liveries depicting all the S.79CS team which flew the 1937 Istres-Damascus-Paris Race, the 1938 Roma-Rio de Janeiro Expedition and 1939 Transatlantic Test flight. This plane was originally developed for FS9 (in another separated release). VC only. GMax Models and Skins by Manuele Villa & Italianwings.Installation instructions included.

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CREDITS:

For CS & T Versions : FS9/FSX Model rebuild & modifications, VC rebuild and animations by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Original textures by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Pilot models by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
For I-ROTR (I-12): Original CFS3 GMAX model by Mr. Luca Festari & Mr. Pietro Zazzetta (Italianwings).
FS9 conversion, model modifications, VC rebuild and animations by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Original textures by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Pilot models by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Flight dynamics derived from original ones by FSAviator.
Gauges: many of the Italian gauges in this panel were created from scratch or radically modified from freeware items by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa, other gauges are from Mr. Stefano "PcMeneg" Meneghini and Mr. Hauke "KeDI" Keitel.
Bubble Sextant by Dave Bitzer and Mark Beaumont (Freeware).
Handling notes and tutorials from original by FSAviator.
Aircraft descriptions and history by Manuele "MVG3D" Villa.
Sounds by Mr. Stefano "PcMeneg" Meneghini.
Translations by Mr. Stefano "Kelticheart" Denti & Mr. Umberto Sciacchetano.
Beta-Testing by PVI-Roma (Piloti Virtuali Italiani).
Screenshots by Mr. Huub Vink.

SPECIAL THANKS:
To my Greek friend Mr. N.Daskalakis for his precious help. Very special thanks to ALL the Sim-Outhouse members for their support and suggestions.

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[Ian Warren]

This looks a real Goodie, :very_drunk:

[Cirrus N210MS]

This looks a real Goodie, :very_drunk:

would it be ok to convert some of your planes in to native fsx models?:wavey: using Model convert x

[Txmmy83]

hi manuele,

where can I find the exact flightplans for Istres-Damascus-Paris (Lindberg Cup)" 1937 air race

or where the non-stop point to point?

and for Ala Littoria S.A.- Linee Aeree Atlantiche, later called L.A.T.I./Linee Aeree Transcontinentali Italiane) over the routes of Southern Atlantic Ocean (Brazil/Argentina/Equador).
which airports where involved?

thanks in advance,
Thomas

[Moses03]

Here is some info I had on the race. History, route, background etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nly72lcj0s07had/Istres-Damascus-Paris%20Air%20Race.pdf?dl=0

[Hanimichal]

Nice airplane, cool details

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/04/22/20160422013754_1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/04/22/20160422013319_1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/04/22/20160422013948_1.jpg (http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/image/GNzq)

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/04/22/2016-4-22_1-43-15-486.jpg

[Wim]

Thanks to Manuele and all involved, great looking aircraft :applause:


Wim

[mvg3d]

hi manuele,

where can I find the exact flightplans for Istres-Damascus-Paris (Lindberg Cup)" 1937 air race

or where the non-stop point to point?

and for Ala Littoria S.A.- Linee Aeree Atlantiche, later called L.A.T.I./Linee Aeree Transcontinentali Italiane) over the routes of Southern Atlantic Ocean (Brazil/Argentina/Equador).
which airports where involved?

thanks in advance,
Thomas

Hi Thomas,
You'll find all the maps with routes and waypoints in the "History CS&T" (pdf) in the folder "DOCS" within the folder "Savoia Marchetti S.79CS MVG".

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[mvg3d]

would it be ok to convert some of your planes in to native fsx models?:wavey: using Model convert x

Hi Cirrus,
Unfortunately I have no experience in modelling FSX native planes, if someone is interested in a conversion I can give him the source files...

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[scotth6]

It looks great. And historical docs also; I love it. Thanks.

Cheers,

[Cirrus N210MS]

Hi Cirrus,
Unfortunately I have no experience in modelling FSX native planes, if someone is interested in a conversion I can give him the source files...

:wavey::wavey::wavey:

i would use a program to convert it :-) just need to download the plane and thats all the files i need :wavey:

[menef]

Grazie Manuele !!!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37428&stc=1

[huub vink]

Are photos always correct? I came across these pictures. The pictures show the "Sorci verdi", but somehow the look more as "Sorci bianco"....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/b9a1525dfaf0bf9186e376c5c4eee6eb_zpsnebguonm.jpg~o riginal (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/b9a1525dfaf0bf9186e376c5c4eee6eb_zpsnebguonm.jpg.h tml)<strike></strike>

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/23911CorsaIstresDamascoParigiEquipaggiSiaiSM792008 937_zpsepdyjwqp.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/23911CorsaIstresDamascoParigiEquipaggiSiaiSM792008 937_zpsepdyjwqp.jpg.html)

It clearly shows you can not always trust photographs, and I can assure you: the green mice, were really green! And there are many pictures to prove this.

Cheers,
Huub

[gaucho_59]

Bravo Huub!!! :wavey::applause:


You just proved a point I am always contentious about... YOU CAN'T TRUST PHOTOS!!! or for that matter,
artists' illustrations...

Indeed the emblem of the squadron does show green mice... The photos you show... even though Ferrania color
existed about the same time as Kodak color... probably is a recolored black and white print ... remember that in the late
1930s color pictures were not that common or available in terms of cost... and maybe the photo retoucher made a mistake...

As a bit of trivia..... The most likely story is, during the Spanish Civil War (1937) Lt. Aurelio Pozzi (who earned the Italian Military Valor Gold Medal or Medaglia d'Oro al Valor Militare [sort of the Italian Blue Max]
would have designed the 3 mice emblem after having heard an NCO exclaim in purely Roman Dialect (the word for mice in Italian is really TOPI): ”Domani annamo su Barcellona e je famo vede' li sorci verdi”,
(which in Italian should be "Domani andiamo su Barcellona e li facciamo vedere I topi Verdi"... OR "Tomorrow we fly over Barcelona and make them see the green rats", meaning "We'll scare the crap out of them"
and ever since the expression has come to mean that in modern Italian... Fare vedere i sorci verdi... (Make someone see the green rats is to scare the scheisse out of them)

By the way... your quip should be... "sorci bianchi"... "not sorci bianco"... unlike English... Italian declines adjectives too.... both in gender and number... like one white mouse... un topo bianco... two white mice... Due topi BIANCHI...

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Ciao for now,
G.

[Dimus]

A beautiful model of a beautiful classic aircraft Manuele!

[mvg3d]

A little history for the Green Mices :

The 205th Bombardment Squadron was the first Regia Aeronautica unit to receive the new SIAI-Marchetti S.M. 79 in October 1936.
The "Hunchback", as it was nicknamed by its crews, was a modern and efficient bomber for its time, although its origin as a mail transport aircraft showed.
There is debate and disagreement about the origin of one of the most renowned unit markings in the Italian Air Force. Three mice standing on their back legs, engaged in a petty conversation while winking at each other.
The most reliable thesis attributes the origin of this symbol during the Spanish Civil War. In March 1937, Lieutenant Jr. Aurelio POZZI drew three green mice after hearing a non-commissioned officer saying in his native Roman dialect: "Tomorrow we'll fly over Barcellona and we'll show them see green mice!", meaning "we'll scare them out of their wits."

On next September 7th, Air Force General Valle issues the following:
"The Green Mice symbol (with the three standing mice), marking the three aircraft which participated to the international air race Istres-Damascus-Paris, is to become the official 12th Stormo badge."

The name became famous when the team headed by Crnl. Biseo and Capt. Bruno Mussolini ranked the first three places in the air race Istres-Damascus-Paris, and even more after the January 1938 Guidonia-Dakar-Rio de Janeiro flight (from Wikipedia).

As a further historical note, apparently the saying "showing to someone the green mice" was used first in 19th century Roman prose writings, with the meaning of "Seeing something extraordinary/incredible".
It seems that such saying has an even more ancient origin as the name/nickname of a Roman Legion.

In current Italian language it has the meaning of "Giving someone a real tough time".

This unit marking also originated another quite famous unit marking in the Italian Air Force, still in use nowadays. It happened when the 51st Fighter Group, equipped with the then new Fiat G-50, intercepted S.M.79 bombers of the 12th Stormo during a training exercise over the skies of Roma, just before WWII broke out. The rivalry between bomber and fighter units was strong at the time, as fighter pilots regarded themselves as the "cream of the crop" elite in the Air Force.
Since the exercise outcome was a full success for the 51st fighter unit, which achieved a total disruption of the S.M.79's bomb runs, keeping them from accomplishing their mock bombing exercise goals, the new 51th Gruppo badge became a black cat capturing in its claws three green mice, the badge of the 12th Bomb Group.

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[mvg3d]

Are photos always correct? I came across these pictures. The pictures show the "Sorci verdi", but somehow the look more as "Sorci bianco"....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/b9a1525dfaf0bf9186e376c5c4eee6eb_zpsnebguonm.jpg~o riginal (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/b9a1525dfaf0bf9186e376c5c4eee6eb_zpsnebguonm.jpg.h tml)<strike></strike>

It clearly shows you can not always trust photographs, and I can assure you: the green mice, were really green! And there are many pictures to prove this.

Cheers,
Huub

Hi Huub,
The pic is "brutally" colored, not only the colors of Sparviero are wrong, but also the R.A. flight suit color is wrong (the "famous" Marus suit was light brown and NOT grey) !!!

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[huub vink]

Manuele,

Thanks for the explanation about the three mice and the cat from 51st Fighter unit. I knew the badge of the fighters but I never had made link with the three mice :biggrin-new:

Huub

[DaveB]

I love the trousers those guys are wearing. Taken as a whole.. there's probably enough spare material to make another 5 pairs!:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[mvg3d]

I love the trousers those guys are wearing. Taken as a whole.. there's probably enough spare material to make another 5 pairs!
ATB
DaveB:)

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[DaveB]

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I take it that's the true colour of their flying suits.. not the blue (one size fits all) suits shown by the crew standing next to the S.79? Wonder if the S.79 shot was hand coloured? This was certainly popular in the UK after the war. I've got a couple of wedding phots of mom and dad.. one is B&W, the other looks like the same shot but hand coloured. Things can get a bit lost in colour translation:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[huub vink]

I guess the pictures from the museum show the real colours. It reminds me to the song Baggy trousers by the band Madness......

The colour picture above is most probably made from the black & white picture below. Both were found on the internet, so I can't tell you anything more.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/sorciverdi2_zpshiipd8e5.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/sorciverdi2_zpshiipd8e5.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Huub

[huub vink]

For those who haven't tried it yet: There is an awful lot of water between Dakar and Natal :dizzy:

I'm afraid that navigation isn't my strongest point (yet) :biggrin-new:.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-27_17-34-21-561_zps1kus8yn1.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-27_17-34-21-561_zps1kus8yn1.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-27_17-33-49-244_zpsxht7pryw.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-27_17-33-49-244_zpsxht7pryw.jpg.html)

[DaveB]

Yup.. the poses are identical aren't they. Good effort at colouring it though. Pity whoever did it didn't know what the real colours should have been.

ATB
DaveB:)

[gaucho_59]

Not mices... common mistake of foreign English speakers... btw... aircraft.. the plural is aircraft... not aircrafts...
another common error seen around here.. lol
and the worst of all... THIS AMONGST NATIVE ENGLISH speakers... HANGARS are for aircraft.. HANGERS are for clothes...


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G.

[huub vink]

Thanks for your wise language lessons Gaucho, but please remember that this is an international forum when you can't expect everybody to write the Queen's English.
We use language as a carrier for the message we try to bring.

Everybody has his own talents here. One can read and write several languages, others make perfect models. I would appreciate it if you could limit your comments to the model, which is the actual topic of this thread.

Thank you,
Huub

[gaucho_59]

Thanks for your wise language lessons Gaucho, but please remember that this is an international forum when you can't expect everybody to write the Queen's English.
We use language as a carrier for the message we try to bring.

Everybody has his own talents here. One can read and write several languages, others make perfect models. I would appreciate it if you could limit your comments to the model, which is the actual topic of this thread.

Thank you,
Huub

Didn't mean to offend anyone! A thousand pardons...
Not meaning to be picky... but it seems the conversation had turned to colors in photographs... and no one protested...
G.

[huub vink]

No problem Gaucho, but in the three posts you made in this thread 2 contained comments about spelling. Only the last one, which was made after my request not to do this, didn't.

Cheers,
Huub

[gastonj]

Hello Gaucho_59, thanks for all! If you try to speak French, i can help you ... my pleasure! :ernaehrung004:
Cheers,
JMC

[kelticheart]

Not mices... common mistake of foreign English speakers... btw... aircraft.. the plural is aircraft... not aircrafts...
another common error seen around here.. lol....

Gaucho,

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KH :wavey:

[huub vink]

Gentlemen! Enough said about language and spelling now. Please stay to the subject!

Thanks,
Huub

[Daube]

Gaucho,


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KH :wavey:

Insults like this have no place here.

[huub vink]

Insults like this have no place here.

As I agree I have removed the comment.

Cheers,
Huub

[huub vink]

For those who have display problems with the prop textures I have made two alternative textures. Could you please install these textures and report back hwther the problem has been solved?

Just unzip and drop the files in the "common" texture folders form both the SM.79CS folder as the SM.79T folder.

Thanks for your feedback,
Huub

[gaucho_59]

Hello Gaucho_59, thanks for all! If you try to speak French, i can help you ... my pleasure! :ernaehrung004:
Cheers,
JMC

I lived in Europe since I retired from the US Army in 1984 until the year 2000, and learned French back in 1952... as a very young boy... lol
G.

[huub vink]

Manuele added a very weathered version in the package of the I-ALAN, as it most probably looked after a harsh flight from Italie to Brazil.

As I wanted to have an I-ALAN as it looked before the start, when it was among the best Italian Civil Aviation could bring, I decided to start a fresh repaint. The start is there, but as I started a fresh paintkit it will take quite some time to finish it. All shading stil needs to be applied.

There are some minor differences between this repaint and the one by Manuele as there aren't many pictures from this aircraft avaiable, which leaves quite some room for my own interpretation.

Cheers,
Huub

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-27_23-1-15-193_zpsafoxr2dd.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-27_23-1-15-193_zpsafoxr2dd.jpg.html)<strike></strike>

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-27_23-58-46-666_zpsmcr1uhaq.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-27_23-58-46-666_zpsmcr1uhaq.jpg.html)<strike></strike>

[DaveB]

That's a good looking start Huub:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[gaucho_59]

Crisp and defined... kudos!
G.

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,
Let's hope this is roughly on-topic :pop4:

Much as I like the S-79 models, I also like to add an autopilot so I can go off and make Tea. I think some of Manuele's aircraft have a modified Sperry(?) unit, but not the I-ALAN which is the one I fly.

I have the old LAGO model to which I have added the autopilot from the Dh 104, which works well, but this does not want to function in these newer aircraft and I wondered whether there is something I can do to make this unit work.

Thanks for any advice,
Andy.

[mvg3d]

Hi,
Let's hope this is roughly on-topic :pop4:

Much as I like the S-79 models, I also like to add an autopilot so I can go off and make Tea. I think some of Manuele's aircraft have a modified Sperry(?) unit, but not the I-ALAN which is the one I fly.

I have the old LAGO model to which I have added the autopilot from the Dh 104, which works well, but this does not want to function in these newer aircraft and I wondered whether there is something I can do to make this unit work.

Thanks for any advice,
Andy.

Hi Andy,
ALL the planes in the package are equipped with an autopilot, also the I-ALAN !!!
The autopilot in S.79CS was an experimental installation (as reported from some RA historical writers). Smiths and Sperry systems were tested and, probably (I did a deep research and there is NO evidence in ALL the texts and photos I found), was chosen the Sperry one. The system, very similar to autopilot used by Wiley Post in his Lockheed Vega, was license-built by Italian Salmoiraghi. In the T model,modified CSs for Rome-Dakar-Rio de Janeiro transatlantic flight, instead of Salmoiraghi, was used a more advanced autopilot (derived from Siemens K4u), license-built by Italian Microtecnica (there is NO photographic evidence, BUT it is clearly cited in Biseo's reports). The I-ALAN was a CS (you can find a brief history in the pdf enclosed in the package) with all the T instruments and a little cabin for 4 passengers and mail. You can find more instructions about the use of Microtecnica-Siemens autopilot in the "Understanding the S79" txt file (by FSAviator, also included in the package).

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[lemonadedrinker]

Hi Manuele,
Thanks for your reply....I really must go and read the Manual properly before attempting to fly across the Atlantic. What I am finding is that Control + Z doesn't act as altitude Hold..is this something that cannot be achieved?

Andy.

[mvg3d]

Hi Manuele,
Thanks for your reply....I really must go and read the Manual properly before attempting to fly across the Atlantic. What I am finding is that Control + Z doesn't act as altitude Hold..is this something that cannot be achieved?

Andy.

Hi Andy,
With Microtecnica-Siemens (S.79T & SM.79P) You can hold the altitude only with trim, the Salmoiraghi-Sperry (S.79CS) works as the original in Lockheed Vega and DC-3.

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[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,
Thank you Manuele; what I often find is that one 'click' of the trim adjustment is way too much and we are launched skyward or the opposite...I have enquired before about lessening the effects attached to the controller but..no joy. It's a shame, as you can alter the sim rate and it would be useful to be able to change the controller 'power'.

Andy.

[mvg3d]

Hi,
Thank you Manuele; what I often find is that one 'click' of the trim adjustment is way too much and we are launched skyward or the opposite...I have enquired before about lessening the effects attached to the controller but..no joy. It's a shame, as you can alter the sim rate and it would be useful to be able to change the controller 'power'.

Andy.

Hi Andy,
Please refer to old S.79 post (in SOH/FS2004 forum) with a lot of answers by FSAviator and to the "Understanding the SM79" file, the FDs and the aircraft.cfg are the same (only the fuel section was changed) and the same are ALL the VC animations.

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[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,
Many thanks for all your wonderful work, Manuele, I am now setting off to read up properly this time .

Andy:wavey:

[huub vink]

The clean I-ALAN (still Work in Progress)


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-30_23-51-17-137_zpst9uhpv9x.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-30_23-51-17-137_zpst9uhpv9x.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-4-30_23-53-53-292_zpsphq8bmv7.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-4-30_23-53-53-292_zpsphq8bmv7.jpg.html)

[mvg3d]

The clean I-ALAN (still Work in Progress)

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[huub vink]

The clean I-ALAN is as good as finished, now I only need to write a read me and upload the textures. In the meanwhile, just for fun, I did a simple "what-if" texture. When the Corsa M.M. 355 was not handed over to ALA Littoria, but given to their German allies to use as fast VIP transporter it could have looked like this.

Not finished because I still want to add somethings, for which I need my imagination. But already a small preview. (and when you post screenshots, you always see things which should be improved....)

The real D-AZUR was a Junkers G-38di, which crashed on 26 June 1936 at Dessua (Germany) due to a technical failure.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-5-5_22-41-48-908_zpscm2gpfk6.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-5-5_22-41-48-908_zpscm2gpfk6.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/Huubs_Pictures/2016-5-5_22-42-8-908_zpsebiomzaj.jpg~original (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/Huubs_Pictures/media/2016-5-5_22-42-8-908_zpsebiomzaj.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Huub

[Emil]

Definitely one of the best planes out there, and definitely the best vintage one. Keep up the good work! :medals:

[thunder100]

My late friend ,a German fighter and later Bomber pilot flew once the S.79**.He was very impressed about speed and manouverbility,just loading capacity was much smaller then Ju-52 he also flew often

So the "German" paint makes a tiny sense

Roland

** His words-from Malta campaign-I was not there obviously " As usual the Italian fighter cover never arrived and we flew without torwards a British Convoi to Malta(Ju-88).Close to Malta our best friends Spitfire's appeared as always and we were shot down.Fortunately my crew and me could bail out safely and a fisherboat took us to Ragusa,where we were flown north to our base.Just only Italian Co-Pilot was available so I had the honour and joy to fly ,after a tiny administrative hassle ,the S.79 what was a rocket vs our Tante Ju"

[huub vink]

Thank you for the nice story Roland, but I don't think your late friend flew a Transatlantico. When I was reading about the I-ALAN, I realised it wasn't really a luxury to be a passenger on board of this aircraft. The large fuel tanks and cargo left not much room for the four (!) passengers. No wonder the SM.82 was more common on the route to Brazil.

Cheers,
Huub

[thunder100]

Thank you for the nice story Roland, but I don't think your late friend flew a Transatlantico. When I was reading about the I-ALAN, I realised it wasn't really a luxury to be a passenger on board of this aircraft. The large fuel tanks and cargo left not much room for the four (!) passengers. No wonder the SM.82 was more common on the route to Brazil.

Cheers,
Huub
Huub you are right

No Transatlantico- but a SM.79 II Torpedo Bomber

Italien officer said no German can( is allowed to) fly an Italian plane-my friend says I am Austrian - so a compromise was found

[huub vink]

I has been quiet around the clean I-ALAN, but there was a good reason.

While gathering information for this repaint I found some things which puzzled me. Together with my frined Manuele and his "Italian connections" we have been able to solve some interesting puzzles. For me the most interesting one was the mystery of the axes (fasces) markings on the engines.

Pictures from the I-ALAN and other aircraft from the LATI showed that background wasn't just simply blue. A friend of Manuele found the answer and was able to find a picture from an old model, which showed the correct colours. It is definitely a "tropical version" of the well known side marking. The markings were reproduced by Manuele.

Below images of the finished textures which I hope to upload tomorrow. I don't know whether I'm allowed to announce this already, but Manuele is working on an update of his textures for the weathered I-ALAN. Which is updated with all recently found information.

Enjoy the pictures,
Huub

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[thunder100]

Huub

Very beautiful

For me ,somehat most pre 60's ( including pre war ) Airline liverys are much more nice, from graphic point of view, then the modern ones

( old Eastern before Hockey/Braniff before monocolour/Panagra/Alitalia to name a few)

Looking forward to reopen Brasil route with a NEW plane

Thank you

Roland

[JensOle]

Great model and textures of a little known aircraft! These team efforts are among my person favourites to take part in as you learn a lot from working with other people. But I must confess that I would be much more interested in the bomber version.

[ChipShop]

I hope you guys don't mind, but reading this thread prompted me to try the SM-79 Sparviero Bomber; and I wanted to share these screenshots with you, I've continued the 'sorci verdi' theme too!

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205ª Squadriglia da Bombardamento, seen over the Zaragoza area of Spain 1937.
ChipShop

[huub vink]

Great model and textures of a little known aircraft! These team efforts are among my person favourites to take part in as you learn a lot from working with other people. But I must confess that I would be much more interested in the bomber version.

Jens-Ole,

The SM79 Spaviero is already available for years. Although it a FS9 model, it works very well in FSX as well. Its a beautiful model and has a great VC.

Cheers,
Huub

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[huub vink]

For those who want the clean textures: They are available here http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?100469-SM79P-I-ALAN-clean

Enjoy,
Huub